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I haven't watched the episode yet, but Eva was already working my last nerve last season with her highly lacklustre, nasally attempts at existing. I don't know who she thinks she is, but Cynthia Bailey was an honest-to-God working model of the 90s (when fashion was LIFE). Here she is with a few other black models of the time -- Queen Naomi Campbell, Empress Iman, Tyra Banks, Veronica Webb, Liya Kebede, and (I think) Beverly Johnson. ....Whereas Eva la Basic (who I actually liked on ANTM) got on the reality show treadmill instead. Did she ever end up working in New York and Milan at all after ANTM? Or did she skulk around LA in the hopes of some Z-list TV work? How can she call herself a model? And a young one at that? She's 34! Unless you are a supermodel GREAT (see photo above), a modelling career is usually over before 30.

@Faulkner @Cheap21 EXO just release a new album, and their comeback single is Tempo. I have put a fancam of Kai doing the choreo to Tempo at the showcase, just because I think it is an incredible cam of one of the best dancers in kpop at the top of his game. You can really see the choreo with this, and his moves are so sharp and strong: And here is the official mv:

Are we sure this was Kanye? There are no CAPS LOCKS.

She did? Then what the heck did I hallucinate? I liked Kari because she was so OTT in S1! She seemed to confuse M2M with a 90s cable-movie-of-the-week. I also liked the glimpses we got of her with Toya in later seasons -- she seemed so much warmer and softer, and IA I always liked her and Toya's friendship.

This talk about S1 reminds how I forced myself to finish it. I didn't get back into it until S3. One reason why -- Mariah and Quad. They were trying way too hard. Mariah was calling herself KWEEN. So many fools consider themselves Queen Bee straight off the bat without having earned that title. And most of the audience are like "...... Who are you again?" I was actually rooting for that evil fake b!tch Kari over those two. Mariah was appallingly treated by Quad during S1 reunion. Quad was like Mariah's Plain Jane sidekick who at Reunion suddenly glammed up out of nowhere and threw Mariah under the bus. The other women followed Quad's lead in order to stay on the right side of production. I feel like S1 had to happen for Mariah to get humbled and eventually earn the audience's respect. If 'respect' is the right word to use with Bravo.

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Joan really is 85 years young! She could probably pass for 55 with her energy. I saw her a few years ago in her one-woman show and she is a force of nature. I am so pleased her career is getting a second/third/fourth/fifth wind! Of course, she has been working pretty consistently for decades, but this AHS role is getting extra attention. It's like people realized they'd been missing a little Dame Joan in their lives.

RHOC filmed their reunion. My guess on couch seating: Emily - Vicki - Shannon - ANDY - Tamra - Kelly - Gina ...although I don't know whether Vicki has a 'sit next to Andy' clause in her contract lol. Early days, but prediction for Dallas reunion: Cary - Kameron - LeeAnne - ANDY - D'Andra - Brandi - Stephanie.

Dallas: Mama Dee's cooking group, featuring her BFF Marian and Kameron's MIL matriarch, Jimmy, was the standout scene of the episode. Mama Dee is such a deliciously shady... drama queen? Villain? Pot-stirrer? Friendship-whisperer? All of the above? I don't even know how to characterize Mama Dee anymore. I just know that I LOVE HER and need her to be a full housewife! Especially when she was oh-so-casually rinsing a pot right next to Leeanne, Kameron and D'Andra talking, eavesdropping like the busy-body she is.. D'Andra is such a messy, watchable villain. There is so much Freudian stuff underneath that anger. D'Andra seems to be coming slowly undone as she seethes in jealousy over Leeanne and stresses over the family business that she is about to crash and burn. Like a spoiled child, she cannot take an ounce of criticism. Kameron remains the show's VOR. Sorry you can't handle it, D'Andra! Thankfully very little Brandi this episode. BTW, is it just me that finds Stephanie & Travis a rather sweet couple? I feel like they are truly into each other, for real.

I'm sorry we are on the outs! To put my comment into context: I said I'm ok with them, not that I love them! I don't disagree with your characterization of either Emily or Gina. However, if I am more indulgent towards them, it's because I like them better than Peggy-Lydia-Meghan. Peggy talked about cancer and masectomies, which I found very hard to watch in light of my mom's own battle. It made my brain hurt every time she tried to verbalize her situation. Lydia was trying too hard to pick a fight. And then there is sour, spoiled, entitled, judgey Meghan. A woman I dislike almost as much as Rinna and Bethenny! S12 was a really draining watch for me, to the point where I eventually peaced-out. S13 may be dull as dishwater but it is easier for me to switch off my brain and just... enjoy it? And that's because I don't have as visceral a reaction towards Lawn Guylind and Budget Jeana as I do to last year's crew.

I didn't think of it in that context, because Vicki was so casual and up-front about it, but yeah, people judge those who need medication to deal with depression/anxiety. Kelly's reaction also helped to demystify that stigma. All three of the Core 4 had good advice for Shannon which she would do well to take on board, not just about her mental wellbeing but also about being self-involved. But she wasn't ready to hear it in her boozed-up, angry state. She also has preconceived notions about anti-depressants and maybe even depression itself. Some things cannot be handled by holistic medicine alone IMO. Unpopular opinion but I like Gina and Emily better than last year's newbies, The Lesser Peggy, Meghan (who I have aggressively disliked since S10) and even Lydia. I don't know if they will last on this show, and I don't know if they deserve to last, but I'm ok with them.

OC: Team... Both Sides? I understand where Shannon is coming from: OC vacations are like Survivor, where one HW is singled out as target. She thinks that is what Tamra has done with her. Tamra is giving off Old Skool Costa Rica vibes and definitely playing up to the new girls. OTOH I get where Tamra is coming from. Shannon is self-involved. This is not Breaking News. Kelly also has it right: Shannon has been depressed for years, probably before she even came onto the show. While I applaud Shannon for not wanting to numb her emotions with hardcore medication and is happy embracing her feelings, the good and the bad, clearly she already self-medicates with alcohol. Surely therapy cannot hurt? Emily is *gasp!* growing on me....? Vicki's outfits this episode, oy. That dress was too low-cut and I was seeing waaaaay too much 59-year old boob. Also, Ramona called. She wants her black macrame cover-up back. God, I love Vicki. She was FABULOUS this entire episode. I also like that she is the VOR and trying to be supportive to Shannon.

Here's hoping it's a playback and not live vocals.

US magazine geoblocked me, sigh. So let me get this straight -- LVP sold a story to the press. However, instead of confronting her about the story (and possibly exposing their own close 'relationships' with the press), the women are going to hide it behind some dispute over a dog? I can't with this BS. RHOBH pulls this [!@#$%^&*] far too often, with everybody talking circles around the REAL issue. Instead they fight a proxy war using the pettiest crap imaginable. Last season was the worst of it. LVP's fear of being "caught" is a real Achilles heel for her, and all the other women know this. I wish LVP realized... that fans don't mind a villain! (In fact, LVP's English accent and Joan Collins vibe kind of makes her a shoo-in, lol). If LVP owned her machinations, shrugged and moved on, she would be a powerhouse. But LVP wants to be utterly beloved of animals, employees, friends and fans. She cannot handle being called out on the 'bad' stuff. So she covers and deflects. And as Richard Nixon proved, it's always the cover-up that bites you in the ass. Like you, I wish she'd say "Yes, I did it, so what?" go out in a blaze of glory, exposing their hypocritical asses along the way. BOOM! Mic drop. However, I think she's afraid to admit to this particular accusation. Because it might have fans question whether Adrienne's S2 accusation of LVP selling to RadarOnline (which LVP strongly refuted in a way that made me believe her) might be true. That seminal moment brought the majority of fans on-side with LVP, and Kyle is still enraged over it.

Just when I say that RHOD is not as good as last season, Bravo hits me with a perfect episode of pure soap opera! Dallas might be the soapiest RH franchise, and its soapiest 'character' might just be Mama Dee Simmons -- the love child of Tammy Faye Bakker and Zsa Zsa Gabor. I'm willing to make a sacrifice for the sake of the show -- I like Cary, but it's time she moved over to FOH and gave Mama Dee her spot. Mama Dee NEEDS to be a full-time HW! I am obsessed. That convo she had with D'Andra about leaving Leeanne alone and focusing on running the business -- and then when she said in her VT that "We (meaning the Simmons family) have known Leeanne a long time and we love her" -- there can be no clearer indication of which side Dee is on in the Leeanne/D'Andra battle. She shows Leeanne kindness and understanding in the previews while basically saying D'Andra is going to crash and burn with the business... wow. It's like Leeanne is the daughter she wishes she had. That is some classic Y&R soapyness right there. That is some classic Dallas (Jock Ewing favoring Bobby over JR!). That is even some Written on the Wind (Douglas Sirk's 1956 melodrama upon which Dallas was supposedly based) ! Even more Written on the Wind parallels: D'Andra's drinking and the fate of her suicidal father (in Written on the Wind, Robert Stack's character drinks because his father favors his friend Rock Hudson over his son, lol). IA Brandi is the big manipulator and jealous of ALL the ladies in the group -- including her BFF/one true love, Stephanie. Stephanie knows Brandi's methods now and sees it clear as day, as does Kameron who got it last season. The only person who doesn't see it is D'Andra, and that, plus her resentment of Leeanne, might see her booted off the show (which would be a tragedy because.. MAMA DEE). I really enjoy Stephanie this season btw, and her relationship with Travis. By contrast, Brandi is still trying to convince us that she and Bryan have 'worked through' their troubles, but all I see is a checked-out hubby enamoured of his new baby and barely glancing at his wife. I love Kameron. She has won me over in spades. We need her comedic timing to balance out the soapy drama.

I don't think HW is going to see a lick of jail-time now.

"I have a rash I've never had a rash! I have a rash I've never had a rash I have a rash I've never had a rash I have a rash I've never had a rash!" Seriously, the OC core four crack me up. I know some viewers have been calling for RHOC to be scrapped completely, but I would honestly miss some of these dorks. And I must say, Emily in a swimsuit has the most amazing curvy body. I wish Shannon would see that and get inspired to embrace her own curves, too.

I can't remember who said it, Emily or Gina (LOL), but they pointed out that Tamra is very co-dependent of Shannon, and her reaction to Vicki & Shannon on the boat together was very high school. Tamra is very intense and possessive of her BFFs, and any shift in mood on their part is instantly taken as some kind of rejection of her. Having said that, Tamra is going through a serious health issue with Eddie, and Shannon is leaning on her through this divorce but likely returns the favor less. I also think that even though Kelly shouts at Shannon next week, it's not because she despises her but because she wants Shannon to have a breakthrough and count her blessings. I love Shannon too and appreciate that she shows us the good with the bad. Clearly, she is not in the happiest mindset on this Jamaica trip (not surprising, given that hell David put her through), unlike Vicki who seems to be embracing everything. I love how the Jamaicans have embraced the OC women right back and seem genuinely entertained by their antics! This is probably the best episode of the season thus far -- making me wish Bravo had gone the NJ route and cut this season's OC down to 12 episodes. The transition season would have worked beautifully in a smaller size.

Toya used to be fun and a voice of reason amid all the duelling egos. She comes across so bad this season, though. Contessa is going through some major challenges, and Toya is STILL throwing a stink about how Contessa doesn't have time for her? Toya, you are selfish and self-obsessed. Speaking of selfish and self-obsessed -- Quad. Why are these women hanging on her every word, begging for scraps from her? Quad was all "Well, I'm being interrupted so I'm not going to tell you what's REALLY going on in my marriage." And everybody is like "Oh, no, Quad, please tell us! Please confide in us! Please!" Mariah should have let her pull this new story out of her ass (that naturally paints Quad as the sainted victim) and THEN gone after her. Quad is a user. She married a nerdy doctor for $$, but when the Bravo cheque came calling, she basically ghosted him for 3 years. She sidled up to Mariah S1 because she was a producer on M2M, but when the Huqs fell out with Purveyors of Pop, she dumped her with quickness. Both times Quad acts like they victimised her. Now she's doing the same to the rest of the women now that she's got Sister Circle. SC will get the same treatment if/when she manages to land another talk show. This user is a fraud, but most of the M2M women ex. Mariah seem unwilling to expose her.

RHOC: Tamra mentioned on WWHL that she and Heather Dubrow are still friends and text regularly. I know Andy C hates Heather and (especially) Terry Dubrow, but... I think it's time Heather came back. She brought something different to the show, and she's not afraid to tangle with the others. Plus I'm sure she still resents Kelly. RHOD: @NothinButAttitude RHOD is not as good as last season, right? It's not bad, but there is no progression in the drama. Every week we have LeeAnne and D'Andra bitching about each other, then at an event they attempt to talk it out. But they never resolve anything. I'm ready for the cast trip to Copenhagen. I can't even pinpoint why the D'Andra/LeeAnne fallout is happening (D's jealousy?). Why is D'Andra doing sh*t that makes her look so evil? Even Queen Dee is like "You better stop that mess and concentrate on work, girlie!" LeeAnne is overdoing her indignation, tho. She should take some cues from Grande Dame Karen Huger on how to handle bitches coming for you. Brandi is seriously stalker-obsessed with Stephanie, like you-are-my-soulmate obsessed. Loving the two blondes Stephanie and Kameron bonding. Kameron doing SparkleDog business with her hubby Court was Why, yes, growing a business means working "like a CEO, at a desk 12 hours a day" ! Kameron clearly has no concept of what the word 'job' actually means. Still love that crazy alien, tho!

With your bolded statement in mind, I would like to post an interview Tarana Burke has given to Jezebel.com. https://jezebel.com/tarana-burke-on-me-too-12-years-and-1-year-later-keep-1829587201 It seems as good a time as any to hear the founder of Me Too for once, instead of the politicians, starlets, old white dudes attempt to co-opt, re-classify and mansplain what Me Too is all about. She is definitely mindful of some of the worries you have, I think, even if she refers to it as 'the media.' I like how her focus is on the survivors and helping them get to a better place, instead of the media's fascination with the perpetrators, as if they were an entertaining and grotesque character study of 'flawed humanity.' As far as the right and far-right (and maybe this belongs in the Politics Thread)

I think I read that Ashley lives either in Tennessee or Kentucky most of the time now. She was basically iced out of Hollywood because of rumors of her 'poor or difficult attitude.' I don't think she is a warm and fuzzy personality, but I think we all now know why her career, which was so promising in the early-to-mid-90s, disappeared without a trace. As for the Me Too movement, because the Weinstein story blew WAY up and dominated the media space for many months, Hollywood actresses became associated with the movement, and the media focused on their stories with a vengeance, leaving Tarana Burke (purposely?) drowned out. Many actresses (and actors, let us not forget the boys and men also harassed and molested) have very authentic and viable claims against the powerful tormentors who made their lives a misery. However, I got uncomfortable when Hollywood A-listers started organising parties to 'raise awareness' and it was all highly mediatised and 'look at me!' Especially when that loud-mouth dingbat Lena Dunham showed up to be photographed and mingle with A-listers co-opt the credibility of the movement. As far as Rose McGowan is concerned, it is now clear that she has major narcissism issues and loves the cult-like worship this movement initially offered her. She and Argento are more than happy to be the self-proclaimed faces of this movement, largely for the adulation. I don't think they will bring down MeToo because the movement always was and has moved beyond Hollywood. I just hope they go live quiet lives now because I am beyond tired of their intoning self-importantly about themselves.

Lol "THEY'RE JUST HAAAAAANDS." LeeAnne has been completely lovely, a loyal, empathetic friend to D'Andra and doesn't deserve to be treated like this. She shouldn't have gossiped to Cary about D'Andra's finances, though. And I cant hate D'Andra completely, so I will defend her because no-one else will. I still see last year's D'Andra in there. She is in an angry and desperate place right now, lashing out at the one person who cares about her. Plus this SL is the most intense on RHOD at the moment. If Darth D'Andra wasn't around to burn friendships to the ground, we'd have to sit through extra footage of Brandi and her two little terrors! (Having said that, I love that the kids on Dallas are the most natural, normal and unrehearsed of any of the franchises -- no Portia Umanskys here).

I should clarify that I am talking about Villa Blanca which is LVP's Italian restaurant in Beverly Hills. It was shown a lot the first two seasons. Then LVP opened SUR and later PUMP and the focus shifted to those two establishments. Villa Blanca was site of the lawsuit made against LVP and Ken. They have apparently been trying to sell that restaurant off ever since. Villa ROSA is LVP's house tucked between North and South Beverly Park. I too think it is a beautiful lot. I love the lush entrance and glass doors myself (letting in lots of light) -- it must be the height of luxury to have amazing security so that you CAN have glass doors and leave them unlocked! Love THAT CLOSET (which Kyle has tried and failed to imitate ever since) and her pool. IA about the animal menagerie, it all got a bit too much the last few seasons. But as LVP said, these animals give her love & affection that she craves. I'm sure she wishes her relationships with the HWs was this easy and unconditional. But maybe that has been LVP's problem in the past: thinking of people like pets and dominating the relationship. Sometimes the pet (Brandi) bites you hard. If LVP and Ken ever sold Villa ROSA (their home), either they are in financial trouble, or they are going back to Europe. I can't see them selling this place unless they absolutely have to. To my knowledge, Villa Rosa is NOT on the market currently!

Hmmm... methinks The Eyepatch doth protest too much! I still like D'Andra, and here's why: She and her mother are the most compelling character studies. As somebody who has worked in a family business, D'Andra reminds me of where I was 10 years ago. She wants to break free and control her own career, but she can't. Because her self-confidence is totally shot. Dee has her thinking that without her family's money/support/name, D'Andra will fail at everything in life. Her career, her marriage. Dee is not ready to cut the umbilical cord and has now offered up "100%" of the company to keep D'Andra close. Unfortunately, this is not going to help D'Andra's self-esteem issues. She has to prove to herself that she IS strong enough to go it alone and face failure and learn from it. As a result of all this, D'Andra is projecting her self-hatred on her twin sister/mirror image -- LeeAnne. It's hard to see this friendship break up in real time because this was a true sisterhood. But right now, D'Andra cannot deal with LeeAnne finding happiness in her own life while she wallows in self-doubt. And she is desperately afraid that LeeAnne has exposed to the world that without her mother's money, D'Andra is penniless. So she is attacking LeeAnne's happiness (Rich). For some reason, D'Andra was also deeply hurt by LeeAnne saying she wasn't crazy about children at Kameron's painting party. It may be the first issue on which these two women have totally opposing views. D'Andra deeply regrets never having had a child of her own. Changing the subject, I heard somewhere Kameron described as an alien who has come to earth and is trying to learn the customs of us earthlings. Now I cannot unsee it whenever I see her onscreen. I do love Kameron so much this season. She is becoming one of my faves.