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  1. On 6/15/2019 at 1:41 PM, YRBB said:

    Finished NYC season 8!


    First off, horrible new theme music.


    So much of the first half focusing on that pig John. And then we had Michael. Two creepy dudes becoming friends. Ugh. If NYC is missing something, it's some hot man candy/husbands/boyfriends (except Adam). Season 7 made up for that with random hotness but it's not enough.


    Jules spent at least the first half of the season being a non presence. I thing she's sweet, but she can't even get a sentence out. At least her vagina provided some story and I did feel bad Michael was cheating and left her.


    LOL at all the cancelled trips. I love when the 'reality' comes into the reality shows. 


    LuAnn went back to her ultra hateful utter denial. LieAnn INDEED. Trashy, triflin ho!! The reveal of John's infidelity was edge of your seat. I felt a little bad for her there, but she quickly ruined it, and she was insufferable in the reunion.


    Overall, a fun, constantly entertaining season!

    Glad you enjoyed S8! Can't wait till you work your way through to S10 which was INSANE.


    I too hate the nee theme music. They changed it again for S9 and it's even more obnoxious IMO.


    Jules was timid at first and in a tough place emotionally. I would have liked to see her come back in S9, to see how she had grown and changed. But it was not to be.


    I had a different reaction to the Luann/Bethenny fallout. Yes, Luann is a narcissist who was ridiculously tied up in Tom. I was disappointed that she reunited with his trifling ass at the end, after he humiliated her publicly. Luann was desperate not to lose this chance at marriage, and was willing to overlook every warning sign to do it. However, I found Bethenny AWFUL that season. The way she and Carole bullied and thin-shamed Jules was horrific (and said a lot about their own twisted relationship with food). The way Bethenny slut-shamed Luann as Carole cheered her on, tried to isolate Lu and Sonja from the group, and did everything in her power to dig up dirt on Tom... None of this came from a good place. It came from a spiteful, controlling place. Bethenny felt she was star of the show and treated the other women like her employees. As a result of S8, I have never quite come back to fully liking Bethenny or Carole. But I get that it's different strokes for different folks. 

  2. @Antoyne Thank you for reminding me to get on the latest episode of NYC. I don't even know why I hesitated! Yes, Bethenny was a [!@#$%^&*] drama queen with her Oscar-bait 'panic attack', but you could see the histrionics were coming from a genuine place of hurt and anger. This is why I love RHONY so much: these women are all STARS. They are multi-dimensional, fully formed personalities (heck, even Tinsley was on point this episode) who expose their good and bad sides in equal measure. Luann is a prime example. She is insufferable, but it is also understandable why she has put a wall up between her and the women, and why she is clinging to cabaret like a life-raft. It IS hard being sober when you rely on partying to pick you up. Sonja having a tearful meltdown at the pool was also completely relatable. She encapsulated in a few sentences the fear of loneliness of going it alone as a 50-something vibrant female. We don't ever see a woman like that on TV anymore. These kinds of women are fascinating! Sonja truly is my favorite. I love that we are on this vacation, close up, with the women and it feels like we aren't missing a second!


    And the humor is so on point that it allows the show to touch on dark, even toxic issues without belittling the truth of those situations. RHONY and this group of women really are magic in a bottle.


  3. 3 hours ago, alwaysAMC said:


    It says something that the initial news of her 'firing' barely registered. Tinsley's ok, I guess (love Daaaaayyyle, the US's answer to Carole Middleton), and Bravo tried hard to make her happen, but she never really took off. I personally thought Jules was a better fit, although somebody whose name rhymes with 'Fethenny Brankel' obviously felt differently!


    17 hours ago, Taoboi said:



    How funny that now that LVP is nowhere around and Camille is also nowhere around, those girls turned on each other. What's interesting is that they targeted Erika next. VERY interesting. Now she knows how LVP felt. And she really cannot take it. Nor can Kyle take that everyone would consider Erika next up for the 'throne.'



    Clearly Erika is the target next week, but it seemed like this episode, Rinna was the intended target.


    I assumed for a long time that Kyle's inability to stand up for Kim to Rinna meant that she valued Rinna's friendship over her sister. However, this episode it strikes me that Kyle might not care for Rinna at all. Part of it is the constant Kim bashing (Rinna's recurring SL the part 5 years). Part of it is Rinna calling Kyle an enabler. Part of it is Rinna bossing everybody around like she runs the show. Kyle would be more than happy for Rinna to be perceived as ringleader of the LVP takedown (which she probably is) and take the fall with the audience.


    Anyhoo, I thought it was pretty interesting that Kyle let TheVanillaFayeResnick go after Rinna/Erika while she sat back and watched. Same old Kyle.


    Image result for RHOBH Kyle eyes shocked gifs

  4. 19 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

    Eileen fell to the double edged sword of Second Season Curse and coming for Vanderpump.


    Her first season she was absolutely the stand out. Hell with LVP gone, I actually wouldn’t mind her coming back as long as she was no longer fan girling over Erika. 


    Did you watch New York yet? They proved once again why their cast doesn’t need to be touched at all.

    I have not yet but I plan to very soon! Though I'm a little apprehensive about seeing Bethenny go off on Luann and make everything all about her.

  5. I know Erika is not universally adored here, but I felt truly sorry for her having to sit through that meal with the dumb-dumbs and their combined IQ of 12. She is clearly way smarter than all of them. WHAT was that nothingburger fight? Rinna can only confront Kim as Pat the Puss? No wonder Erika's brain cells lost the will to live. Teddi should be fired for whateverthefuck she was trying to stir up/'understand.'


    8 hours ago, Antoyne said:


    Even with Rinna being on the show the second longest now behind Kyle and Camille, I don’t feel anything genuine about the relationships the BH women have.

    Truly shocked that Rinna has been on the show second longest after Kyle. She still feels like a bit of an interloper to me. Has she ever even thrown a BH party or event? Or does she just show up at everybody else's looking for a fight?


    Re: the relationships, I have been missing Eileen for that very reason. I found her intense dislike of LVP offputting back in the day, but she was also a loyal, genuine person who was smart, self-deprecating, and truly cared for her closest friends in the cast. I miss her warmth. The show feels icy cold now.

  6. 7 hours ago, NothinButAttitude said:

    I believe this tidbit very much...


    100% believe it. I said a few months back on this thread that the LLAJ story was a set-up to trap LVP, before Bethenny confirmed it on WWHL. These twits are dumb AF. Not only do they believe the audience is dumber than they are, but they had to shut down a popular restaurant and make a public event out of it? These rich b*tches couldnt have hosted everybody at home? Mikey could have served the canapes! And Teddi brought a +1? We all know that was Edwin with his stencil eyebrows and ponytail!


    See, this is why I am disappointed LVP did not confront these women at reunion. It's like she ran away tail between her legs, and that just validates their hollow triumph. After this season, though, how can we ever trust the SLs on BH again? It's clear the women and production storyboard fake stuff to deflect from the real issues going on in their lives. I know storylining happens elsewhere in the RH universe, but more often than not the drama stems from true events and relationships -- that's why Potomac and NYC are working so well at the moment. IMO the BH HWs are 80% on their way to killing their own franchise.

  7. 20 hours ago, WTGH said:

    Let us reminisce...


    Favorite LVP moment: Pandora's wedding/ any glamour shot of her home porn/closet porn.

    Lisa has never been my fave, she's a bit tedious but I love the fabulousity she brought to the show. 


    Least favorite LVP moment: Whenever she was mean to Kim, disguised by her "british humour". 


    I'll miss her, but I hope TPTB bring on another wealthy AF woman.


    Random: I wouldn't mind if Faye joined the show. She and Rinna will either be BFFs or mortal enemies. No in between. 



    Favorite LVP moment:

    Moments -- fleeting glimpses! -- when she was truly happy with her friends. The S2 Hawaii trip when she started to bond with Brandi, as well as support Kyle while she was going through her problems with Kim, was a high point.


    Obviously her walk-in closet, her hosting and decoration skills. I truly thought she was the third Collins sister for a while (after Joan and Jackie).


    Least Favorite LVP moment:

    S6. The tide turned; thereafter it was hard for me to see LVP with rose-coloured glasses. Though I don't think she is quite the evil Bond villain with mind-control powers that the rest of the cast paint her to be. LVP has been unable to fully open herself up and trust any woman on the show since S2 reunion, certainly not since S4. This has unfortunately steered the show into Kill or Be Killed territory and weighed on my enjoyment of BH.


    I think Bravo have already checked out replacements. One of Andy Cohen's BFFs, Bruce Bozzi, posted this yesterday, and the timing is no coincidence:



    Yep, it's Kathy Hilton -- somebody I wanted to join the show this season. I have since wondered if Kathy would bring it. Because what Kathy Hilton hates more than anything is airing her dirty linen in front of the world. Like Big Kathy before her, Little Kathy prefers the family's dirty little secrets on lock-down.


    I would love for Nicollette Sheridan to join the cast -- except that I actually kind of like Nicollette (she seems pretty true to herself, marching to the beat of her own drummer) and would not like to see her get mauled by the rottweiler Rinna.


    Speaking of Rinna -- that family lunch was all kinds of uncomfortable. Does it seem like she and Harry Hamlin live essentially two separate lives now? That may explain her relative lack of joy this season. The two snot-nosed daughters do not seem either very bright or very nice. The way they treated their father was horrible. The dark-haired one (sorry, I can't be arsed to learn her name -- Amelia Belle? Delilah Boo?) clearly was panicking at the very thought of eating solids and couldn't handle her father cooking a meal for her.

  8. 28 minutes ago, rlj said:
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    TMX is reporting LVP is not returning or filming the reunion, !

    If true, that's a crying shame. I'll wait till Bravo or LVP confirms but I wonder if Bravo will tweet the reunion seating plan. LVP is a big draw.


    If true, I wonder if she intended to go but this latest lawsuit made her rethink her plan. She seemed to be implying that this season was an anomaly in terms of her participation.


    I feel a bit sad, it's an end of an era for BH.

    4 hours ago, AmandainNC28655 said:



    Has Lu's friend this season been upgraded.  Wouldn't that be a kick in the teeth if she was given a Housewife slot.  Wouldn't mind seeing JZ back in the fold

    I doubt Barbara has been upgraded to HW. The show didn't seem interested in showcasing her any more than necessary. 

  9. 33 minutes ago, alwaysAMC said:

    Take this with a grain of salt because it's Radar Online, but they're saying Luann and Ramona are on the chopping block and B/Tins/Dorinda/Sonya are all safe for next season.  New blood is coming, apparently...

    I can sort of see the need for new blood. At the same time, I'm not sure I want it! I love this crazy, march-to-the-beat-of-my-own-drum group. Ramona is acting like she's practically FOH these days, but Luann will be devastated. I'm not sure why Tinsley is safe, or indeed the miserable B.


    New blood is fine, but if they're anything like Teddi or Dorit... no thanks.

  10. @NothinButAttitude I don't  know... I think this is LVP's last season with BH. Even with her large fandom, the other women have boxed her into a corner. She doesn't want to film with them, they probably dont want to film with her. It is like what happened to Danielle Staub in S2 -- Danielle was hugely popular but production could not make it work between her and the others, and they refused to film with her. And that sealed her fate. At least LVP has VPR and a forthcoming new show to soften the blow. She did say recently that production cut all her scenes bar the Las Vegas opening for the rest of the season. 


    It's really crazy how so much stuff is spilling out outside of the show. It's like Bravo has zero control over their stars. The women are so volatile and focused on revenge that they risk bringing down the whole show. Mauricio's lawsuit now touches the other HWs, production and the writers (yes, BH has writers!). If that goes to trial, we may hear a lot about how BH operates behind the scenes and comes up with storylines. It will be fascinating, but I also worry it will cause the show's demise, mainly because we will no longer believe the SLs these women are selling us.


    BTW Camille wrote a great blog where she basically spoke truth to the puppygate gang in her inimitable bitchily-elegant-yet-direct Camille way: 


  11. 5 hours ago, Taoboi said:

    You don't overrespond. :P


    If anything I feel I underexplained.


    If LVP does show, I guess I ponder how LVP will play it? Ever since Puppygate hit and LVP withdrawn, she has still outmaneuvered the girls more for more (like the lie detector test). I wonder if she will have some trump card to play that will leave them shook and exposed. Or will she stay calm and go Season 5 Eileen on them. Or if she will actually go in on them like she did with Kyle in their showdown. Just so many possibilities on how she can play this. What do you think is most likely? Did that make sense?


    Part of what makes it interesting for fans for sure (like a good soap) contract or not will she go or just leave?

    I would love her to go angry and categoric as she did with Kyle, but that's not LVP. Revenge is a dish best served cold. I think she will be like Eileen -- lawyer-like and cool in her talking points. She wont prevaricate. She won't pull out any surprise trump cards (Dorit already did that when she admitted she talked to the lady who ran the kill shelter!). But she will quietly decimate Dorit, and Teddi, probably, with her facts. 


    I suspect everyone is right and she will only be on for half a day. I think it may be quite emotional for LVP fans, especially if they show a Best of LVP montage. I wonder if LVP will be emotional. I wonder if she will lash out at Kyle, Rinna and Erika. Those are the three that she probably feels forced her off the show behind the scenes.

  12. @Taoboi (at the risk of over-responding to this thread the last few days) --


    Contractually, LVP has to show up. She is still a main cast member. Plus Adrienne set a precedent. If you don't show, you get fired. If LVP doesn't go and still keeps her job, it will mean anybody on any RH franchise can treat reunion as elective and not mandatory. 


    As I said before, the reunion is cathartic for the HWs, and it is cathartic for us. We need LVP there now that the other women have exposed their asses. IMO she has been unfairly treated, and this is her time to call them to account. Instead of pussyfooting around, she needs to confront them once and for all. And they have grievances they want to air, too.


    ALL these women have been playing games with the viewers for years over what to show and not to show. At reunion, we have this one chance to catch them unguarded, to crack the facade -- IF Andy asks the right questions. It's a small price to pay for the fame and lifestyle this show affords them. If LVP skips reunion, I feel like she will be robbing her fans of that chance, and as one of those fans, I will be deeply disappointed. 

  13. 3 hours ago, Gray Bunny said:


    I am SO entertained by their trip. The place they're staying at is gorgeous, Ramona was up to her usual antics of explaining all her outfits to the hired help as they helped her unpack, Sonja was blitzed out of her mind right off the bat, and Dorinda was about to catch up. I thought it was a tad ill-timed for Bethenny to storm into Lu's room and lay into her about her Cabaret behavior. But, I guess she was piggy-backing off of what Drunk Sonja and Slowly-Turning Dorinda were saying. 


    This trip is the kind of messy fun that I love and I can't wait for next week. This is gonna go down as one of the best trips, IMO. 



    Agreed. Sometimes Bethenny is like a little grey raincloud that hovers into view when you've laid out to catch some rays. She arrived last and immediately tried to shoehorn herself into drama that had already gotten underway. It's like, girl, sit your ass DOWN. Dorinda, Ramona and DrunkSonja have already got this round covered.


    I noticed B brought a glam squad with her for the trip -- NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I don't care about glam squads for fancy NYC events, but this is meant to be vacation! There is nothing I enjoy more than Ramona and Sonja glamming it up out of their own messy suitcases and sharing a straightening iron. The last thing I want to see is the Erika Jaynization of RHONY!


    I too have a good feeling about this trip. Like, St Barts/Turks & Caicos-good. Next week looks hilarious.

  14. 1 hour ago, Cheap21 said:

    I like BP and saw that they were touring in the US on some morning show. Bet that must have been an amazing experience. I saw they did a song with Dua Lipa which has been getting rotation on my Spotify recently


    I dont really keep up with KPop so didnt know that stuff with Sengri. I vaguely read he was in some controversy but hadnt read up on details. I see he's retired fro music. Damn, such a shame bc he grew into my fave in BIGBANG (well that alternated between he and Tayeang). The group wont be the same without him and I wonder if they will even continue has a quartet once everyone's military service is complete bc they are older now and most have had successful solo careers at this point


    BTW, CL's US career still hasnt happened? LOL...poor girl


    I know you really liked Seungri -- so did a few friends of mine. He was funny, but now it turns out there was a dark side. The scandal is pretty serious. He ran a club called Burning Sun in Seoul which was a front for running hookers to the rich and powerful. There were other serious allegations of young girls having their drinks spiked at the club, passing out and then waking up hours later having been raped by god knows who. He apparently was sharing sex tapes (filmed without the women's knowledge) in a private chat room on KakaoTalk.


    It is really awful stuff, and it is unclear what Seungri knew or didn't know.  My feeling is that, as the maknae in BB, he was always trying to impress his rich and powerful friends and the head of YGE by showing how much money he was making with all these clubs and business ventures. And he got in over his head with the hookers and it spiraled.  Anyway, here is an article which explains some of the basics: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/12/k-pop-scandal-big-bang-seungri-south-korea-charged-over-illegal-prostitution-ring


    Blackpink was fun and I was surprised at how much I enjoyed myself and how nice the fans were. BP seem to be huge across the world! Don't make me cry about CL, the way YG handled her US solo career literally makes me so angry. They did her dirty. I still listen to Hello Bitches periodically, though -- it is such a banger.

  15. 1 hour ago, Antoyne said:

    So she does a Q&A session where audience members get to ask her questions. As far as the other Housewives go she was really diplomatic and professional with her answers, she didn't bash anyone. She said coming out of the reunion she's closest with Sonja and Dorinda. She was really excited about being friends with Dorinda again and was like "We're back!".


    Someone asked if Tom was well endowed, and she stated "Why do you think I married him?" She said Jacque and Tom were excellent lovers. She said she never had sex with the Pirate, but that Sonja did. She also said the Pirate was a little dirty for her but that he was hot.


    She defended Barbara against an anti-Barbara question. The people I was with and myself, were shocked how many people at the show don't like her. I find her pretty inoffensive and it seems they've minimized her role as the season has progressed.


    She made some jokes about her most recent brush with the law which we all laughed about. She was honestly in great spirits and seemed super appreciative of what a packed crowd it was.


    Jill Zarin's daughter Allie was in attendance along with Tanya from RHOA.

    Image result for sipping tea elegantly gif


    Thank you for the delicious tea!


    The fact that she and Dorinda are in a good place again leaves me thrilled. And Sonja too. I know Bethenny is considered the 'star' of NYC, but for my money, anything involving Lu, Sonja, Dorinda and Ramona is the most watchable. 


    I am also glad she defended Barbara against the boos! That sounds like the 'old' Lu I know and love. I like Barbara -- she is genuine and true-to-herself. She is the one who reached out to Bethenny when Luann was spiralling out of control in order to stage an intervention. That is a true friend right there. While everybody else  on the Miami trip gets piss-drunk on Dorinda's delicious-looking mojitos, she is probably going to be Luann's anchor.


    I always thought it was a shame that Luann and Jacques never worked out, he seemed to provide stability for her. When they broke up, that's when Lu went down a bit of a slippery slope. I'm shocked she didn't boosh the Pirate, but I still think they did more than flirt! 


    Interesting that since S1, Luann and Jill have been close and never really had a beef with one another. That's nice of Ally to come see the show.

  16. @Antoyne Sounds like an amazing night! Her shows always look like a lot of fun on the show. And Lu clearly ADORES doing #CountessAndFriends. It seems to make her happier than anything else in this world. It has replaced (some of) the drinking in her life, which is both a good and bad thing, because I worry that if the cabaret work dries up, she will be absolutely devastated. However, it sounds like the shows are very popular so hopefully she will continue to do this for a while yet!


    Her figure in that bikini in the last episode was INSANE. She does look incredible-- at any age.


    Did she spill any tea??😎

  17. 17 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

    Since we haven't heard an official announcement (have we?), I'm going to go on ahead and assume (I know, I know what they say about assumptions) that the Off-Topics will return sometime soon, especially since it had a higher level of activity than many of the soap-focused threads.

    Yeah hopefully this is just a temporary glitch and they return soon. I really love that section of the board.

  18. 10 hours ago, NothinButAttitude said:

    Those lawsuits keep racking up in Beverly Hills...



    9 hours ago, DaytimeFan said:


    You bet they do...and not one word about them on the show. So the whole show rings false.


    On NYC, Lu went to jail, on ATL, Nene got hit with that IRS Debt, on OC, half the cast lost their houses to foreclosure, we've seen divorces galore across the franchises - yet on RHOBH it's about a f--king dog.

    The BH women are *obsessed* with how they appear to the public and have too much control behind the scenes (mainly because of their money and high profiles). It is killing the show and explains why it has become so scripted and poorly contrived. 


    When I think of Lynne's daughters served with eviction notices and Lynne's husband confessing that he had hidden the full extent of their money problems... or the police cam of drunk Luann losing it in the back of a squad car... those were gasp out loud moments. I'm sure both women would have preferred the footage not to air, but they also had an attitude of 'I am on this show which pays me and raises my profile, and this is the price to pay.' Certainly, in both instances, my sympathy grew for both women and I appreciated them showing ALL parts of their lives. OC and NY especially do not shirk from presenting the many facets of these women.


    Question about the Umansky case: From what I initially gleaned, this Sweetwater guy is a corrupt dictator's offspring, trying to launder ill-gotten gains (while his country languishes in terrible poverty) by purchasing high-end property in the US. The Feds are breathing down his neck (hello RICO laws) and this lawsuit is a diversion tactic to wash his hands of the money laundering allegations and turn it on Mauricio. In your assessment, would you say that the Umanskys are being somewhat unfairly dragged into a lawsuit by this unscrupulous individual? That is an argument I have seen posited elsewhere.


    That is not to say that the show should avoid mentioning the lawsuit. It should, and it is a fascinating case. The lawsuits I also wish they would talk about are the ones for fraud and debt featuring the Kemsleys. 

    8 hours ago, Chris B said:

    Jill did an interview and said they filmed her inviting the cast to her birthday party which Bravo wanted to film, but they all turned her down LOL. I think the cast is probably banding together to keep her off the show, or at least the important ones (Ramona/Bethenny). 

    Yikes. I thought Ramoma is chummy with Jill now and wanted her on the show. But yeah I bet one person in particular was categorically against showcasing Jill. 

  19. NYC:

    The Miami trip is shaping up to be a bit like St Barts or Tirks and Caicos, and that's not a bad thing. 


    Great to see Jill Zarin again. She was only on for 30 seconds, but she made sure she was in every camera shot, and somehow managed to hustle her way next to Dorinda for the tree lighting ceremony. I tip my hat. This is the kind of thirsty camera presence we need! Why were her scenes cut? Did Bethenny pull a fit with production? I like Barbara fine but Zarin on that trip would have been insane.

  20. Her voice was heavenly, but if any of you want to check out some of her movies, I would heartily recommend Pillow Talk, Calamity Jane, The Man Who Knew Too Much, Love me or Leave Me, Lover Come Back, and In Moonlight Bay. She was underrated as an actress and screen presence IMO and I absolutely adore all those movies.

  21. Heize is great, and I love that she seems to have a lot of say in her music and how she wants to be marketed.


    BTW I dont know if either you @Faulkner or @Cheap21 are fans of Blackpink, but I saw them in concert last week. My first kpop concert! I felt a bit guilty about giving my cash to YG (I'm sure you have heard about the hoorrificstuff with Seungri and Burning Sun). However, i had a fun time at the concert and danced in the aisle along with half the arena! Whistle, Ddu Ddu and their latest Kill This Love are such bomb ass songs.


    In other news, Xiumin of Exo and now my bb D.O. have enlisted in the military.  😪

  22. On 5/27/2019 at 4:50 AM, DaytimeFan said:

    Potomac is a delight to watch this season. Everything about it is working for me.


    Leaving the Michael wants to suck d*ck comment as neither Robin nor Candiace wanted to mention it, thinking the other hadn't noticed, was Bill Bell levels of leaving a story thread dangling to be picked up on later with devastating consequences.


    Katie seems legitimately nuts. That mardi gras mask and cigarette break was haunting.


    And then you've got Ashley, whose seriously cruising for a bruising. The way she tries to stir crap up with Candiace shows the ugliest side of her. She is awful and has so much bad coming right for her.


    Potomac is such a pleasure, I can't get over it. Travelling to NOLA reminded me of back in the day when the Atlanta ladies went to Savannah or Charleston (I forget which) and there was a truly hilarious and fiery ensemble dynamic. 


    Candiace came off well this episode, especially the way she smacked down Ashley and her pot-stirring. Last season, Ashley was allowed to get away with this because her mantra was 'I expose everything about my life, can you say the same?' The truth is, Ashley was only exposing stuff that made her look good (put-upon daughter, self-sacrificing wife). She and Michael are not an open book, something this season is now picking apart. I mean, does anybody truly believe Ashley is lusting after the Crypt Keeper's bod? I am ready for some roosting chickens to touch down. Right now Candiace and Robyn hold the key, which in true Bill Bell form, they are waiting to use a little later down the line.


    Also -- Michael was referring to Juan, right? 


    I don't know what to make of Katie. I'm happy she is back as I liked her S1, but something is definitely off. It does seem that she changes persona with each guy she dates/marries, and that begs the question, who is she really? She seems to be going through some frankly horrendous stuff off-screen.

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