Angela

This may have been the best episode of RHoAtl this season. The women are together except for Kim. Nene seemed more mature that usual. Sherre and Nene were being civil. Sherer and Marlo's crazy fight, and I do mean crazy.

ICAM. Everybody has to own the person they become but the people around us do contribute in part to who we each become. JR had a lot of big contributors. JR had a really f'ed up bunch around him from the start. Custody battles when he was a kid, Tad's death, Dixie's three deaths, parents cheating left and right, expectations he would never be able to live up to from his father, Dixe's betrayal (the Kate "death"), Tad and Jamie's betrayals (the baby) and later Babe's.

"Kendall and I already did it." "You think you can shock me..." Fabulous, lol. That was an awesome scene, very rich. From Erica's description to Kendall face while she's describing it, to Kendall's brutally honest observation (which she didn't say to hurt her), to Erica looking like she'd been punched in the gut. It's near the end of this clip:

Yeah, that was still Jonathan Bennett. He was fine, for me. It was Andrew Ridings that really sucked.

I don't know about Nene's interesting factor as her contribution to this season isn't really enticing me to watch. It does entice me to roll my eyes and go meh, on the other hand. I totally think it was Kim and Nene's relationship together that made the show in past seasons, the show has become really bland without it. How the mighty have fallen. It makes me wonder about how New Jersey is going to play. Prior to the Beverly Hills surge, it was New Jersey and Atlanta bringing the high entertainment factor.

Atlanta IS pretty boring this season, topped off with Queen NeNe refusing to talk to anybody and acting like her crap don't stink. I still like Nene and all the girls on the series, but whatever. Agreed. Get a new cast if these guys don't want to hang around with each other. RHoBH has rocked the he-doublehockeysticks over the other RHo and probably topped even New Jersey for me.

This is the Soap Opera Update article... Rudolf analyzing Anton and Anton/Kendall in Soap Opera Magazine:

Indeed. This storyline was just garbage. Cat/tiger could have, no SHOULD HAVE, gotten a credit in the opening, lol. I think I have the Soap Opera Update article to go along with that commercial uploaded somewhere. Lemme go check.

I didn't like any of her pairings after Brian. I didn't like Hayley/Charlie, Hayley/Alec or even Hayley/Mateo. I didn't like her with Charlie and Alec for similiar reasons, there wasn't enough chemistry to make up for the very visible age difference. Charlie was too fluffy. Alec was too creepy.

I loved Tad and Dixie prior to 1996. Brooke/Tad weren't worth ending Brooke/Edmund. They were a smart and sexy couple. I was 12-13 and I could appreciate them. Although Tad and Dixie were the primary factor in ending Brian/Hayley and Brooke/Edmund - for some reason I always blamed the Santos children more. Tad and Dixie dug the graves of these pairings, but Maria and Mateo put the dirt and cement over the coffins.

That's definitely Angelique (looking without volume) but I have no memory of her as anything other than a blond for some reason. I think that's partially my age at the time (school and I didn't get my first VCR until 1993), the years that have gone by and the fact that I was probably not very interested in the character. If I remember correctly Carter became a very, very scary mofo but he's another one of those characters I only remember so much of which is not much. Sigh, I loved Brooke and Edmund together.

A romantic relationship? No, not IMO. I don't think they ever thought lets really try to do that. They really did bring Kendall in as a mid-range teenager and SMG did look her age for the first half of that run. Angelique was definitely a blond (at least at some point) unless my memory has gone bad with age - which it probably has.

There was a period where Kendall was living with Erica and Bianca. Erica tried, they all tried for a bit. But between Bianca's rebellion, Kendall's ability to overhear conversations that were negative through her snoopy nature and then her general impulsiveness in reactions, and Erica haven't not really dealth with the rape it was always set to get ugly fast. Kendall would be in listening range whenever Erica would say something to Dimitri like "everytime I look at her I can only see her father." It became almost joke worthy how often this scenario would happen. Erica wouldn't know this of course unless Kendall would confront her. There were also smaller perceived slips. This is why Kendall developed a sort of crash on Dimitri. He'd notice those things too and encourage Erica to try harder. He was initially very in tune with Kendall's feelings, more so than Erica was. Me too, but I'm also fine with what they did although I was annoyed by the story during the last year with Gellar in the role. I think the extreme rift was becaue of the relationship between Lucci and Gellar. That enabled the show to give the actresses far less scenes together.

Just went back in my photobucket account after months. The critical response to the age issue back in 1993...

IMO, yes. It was a very, very tacky add on. The story was richer on the level that Eric was a really neglectful and careless father but not a monster. I would have loved for the show to bring Eric back in to interact with these women even to the end and for them to re-write that stupid re-write about the sex-trade sale. Gellar, Minshew - the character was too young with each but it worked for me. I never lose the thought that Erica was 14, but I like that I feel there was always at least an 18 year age difference between them because of the age of actresses they were using for Kendall. I was more bothered by McTavish suddenly trying to sell me the character was 24 after getting so many complaints about how Kendall should be older than Lawson's Charlie. She shouldn't have folded to pressure especially when Gellar never looked more than 20 for her entire run and therefore never came off anywhere near older than Charlie anyways. Sometimes the story outweighs the logic in a good way. They definitely initially brought Kendall in as a 16-17 year old. They wanted to play the dynamic of challenging Erica to raise Kendall a little bit, they wanted Erica to hold responsibility in forming "the child" a little bit which I thought was a very rich idea especially in the long-term for Kendall. It's so much better than say Ethan and Zach. Ethan was at least 23-24 and looked it. He was also a good-natured and formed adult who they reverted into a 16 year old.

That video is why I had always liked Kendall even with SMG. Erica was just over the top cruel in the way she talked to her. She compared her to her evil father around five times in ONE episode. I don't think that this is what AMC was doing here. Between Tad and Sam and Kendall, they've shown the many sides of adoption. A lot of kids are happy, a lot of kids carry an intense feeling of rejection no matter how great they were treated. On a philosopical note, I think how your biological mother is during the pregnancy affects the unborn childs psyche. I can just look at my sisters kids and see there's truth to that. She was in emotional turmoil and violent during her first pregnancy and completely laid back during the other two. For completely understandable reasons, Erica was completely disconnected and unhappy during her pregnancy with Kendall. Rejection since the womb. On the more crafting notes, Kendall learned she was adopted when she was a teenager and Bill and Alice wouldn't admit it for anything. For Kendall that came off like it was something they really wanted to hide because something was wrong with her and her being adopted. It built on the feeling of not fitting in. Of course, it was probably that the parents thought of her as their own and just didn't want anything to come between that. Then Kendall met Erica and she was looking to finally fill that void she'd probably been born with but it really, really didn't work out. I thought the entire Erica and Kendall story was very well crafted from beginning to end but if you just looked at it in the surface you missed a lot and just saw two royal bitches being selfish. I absolutely loved how long they allowed the often misguided anger to go on between them because you don't see that on soaps. It may have been misguided but it was coming from scars. It was coming from an understandable place. That would have been interesting story to do. I had always felt it was long past due to bring back something from her past, be it her other mother or something like this - a cousin.

The fact that Nene ran from this fight, ultimately, in tears actually makes me think the promoter wasn't lying. I think the promoter probably provoked that line of talk though. Nene never runs from a fight like that when she's sure she's in the right.

I didn't dislike anybody in last nights RHOBH. Kim & Kyle got to me despite the fact that I disliked them most of this season. I for some reason feel Kim did the right thing about the boyfriend situation despite her fruitcake quotient. The keeping it under wraps element, not so much the moving. She seemed very adult during most of the epi. I wonder if Adrianne's husband is correct about why Kim looks sedated and is slurring words. Props to him for being brave enough to confront her about her odd behavior unlike most of the women in that group. I'm not sure I believe there's no alcohol in the mix. I usually hate everything to do with psychics but Kyle's psychic had a feel-good vibe. Next weeks episode looks like it's going to be good. RHOATL. My mouth is always dropped open when I watch that edition of the RH family. Kandi and her sex-toy obsession is a bit much. Phaedra and her calling to funeral directing is crazy but so damn funny. "I can't wait to get my first body."

It's really a fun show. Fun cast of characters and definitely an interesting profession (hobby).

I didn't dislike Danielle like others, at least not at first. I felt they were ALL ganging up on her not just Teresa despite table-throwings and pushing Andy down. From what her friends and family are saying, she's been like this for a while (the bitter jealousy she holds by accusing everybody of ripping her and her husband off in some way or another when they a achieve success) to a point so I can't argue with what you're saying at heart - but I think it's blown up bigger due to certain factors including the show going to her head and the money issues. I do get your best-friend point, but right now Kyle sucks on-screen so by clique association so does Lisa - at least when she's around Kyle. When she's not, she's still pretty cool.

I enjoy RHONJ, RHOBH and RHOATL, The others are so-so. Theresa. My theory about why she's gone so balls to the wall bitch is she's doing it to fix her and her husbands finances. Stirring crap makes you more appealing to the magazines. Talking crap in a book sells more books. I didn't think I would like her family members more than her at the beginning of this season but that is how it worked. Kyle has a functioning brain. Kim doesn't. I somewhat excuse Kim's behavior because of that big difference, she's clearly become mentally challenged for some reason or another. Kyle, on the other hand, enabling and encouraging her sisters stupidity this season? Sigh. Lisa is almost as bad. I don't like saying that about Lisa especially after that great dishwasher line, lol. Maybe it's because Brandi is friends with her former pool boy? Save Dana the pathetic lap dog follower, I can at least tell occasionally that the other woman sense something is wrong with what's going on from Kyle and Kim's end. Camille is boring this season. I still like her, hopefully she gets a personality outside of Kelsey's bitter ex next season and maybe stirs some crap too.

I wish Brandi was more secure because she'd hands down win the fights with the idiot sisters and their pack IF she was more confident. I'm not talking about in terms of verbal replies, but just by not letting them get under her skin. Kim and Kyle are so wrong (and mentally disabled for some reason in Kim's case) that it's not even worth making the effort.

Michael Cambius story clip heaven put up by RetroBinxMontgomery on Youtube about a month ago. Actually, a lot of clips that are more so Binx related but not exclusively. This clip I'm bringing up because I could swear the guy with Pete at the beginning is Trevor St. John. No? Yes? The voice is totally TSJ.

You almost feel a fan did that timeline, with People you could tell the people behind it rarely watched and were asking around and maybe not really fact checking all that much. But like Soaps In Depth, really beautiful pictures!

I was just saying in another thread that NY Magazine did a better job with the facts on that long-winded timeline (as far as I've seen) than People Magazine did with the facts in their tribute issue.