Everything posted by P.J.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
1989, Nick helps Phillip find Beth (I think Beth was about to marry Neal at Reva Bend with Blake in attendance) and helps HB find Josh, who is at the bridge that Reva jumped off of years before after Reva told him that Billy is Dylan's father and it wasn't rape. (Which involves a speech that completely whitewashes Josh's history of ducking out when things got tough, and forever puts some golden halo above his head, but I digress...) So he can go home and completely forgive Reva for being an idiot and lying to him yet again. Not to mention putting Billy through an emotional meat grinder...but HEY, she's our HEROINE. RME.
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Obviously, bringing Roger back was the right move. And at that point, save a very few, Roger hadn't actually interacted with anyone still in town. I just wish they had found a way to handle the Roger/Holly interaction differently, not as "star crossed love" but as a clearly toxic relationship that Holly got to put behind her. @DRW50 I'm not sure Alan and Alex ever really changed how they felt about Brandon, but there were times that their relationship would change on a dime.
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Part of the problem re: rivalries is the cast turnover. The other is that characters change so radically that it's hard to work their past into the current day. Why Long/Curlee didn't really play on the Roger/Ed animosity is beyond me. Other than they really needed Roger's return to work. And it would've been awkward trying to sell Roger's "reformation" if they'd kept bringing up Holly and Rita and Roger raping two women Ed cared about very deeply. I watched part of a '79ish episode, where Mart Hulswit's Ed tells Mike he could've killed Roger, and means it. There's just no way for Peter Simon to sell that kind of conviction as Ed. (at least IMO). Yes, GL promos would've aired during Y&R or ATWT. But my recollection is that GL rarely got promos, and it had to be a really hot story for it to have aired during Y&R. (At least from the late '90's onward. The promo at 11:18-20am during Y&R was usually ATWT or B&B)
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I loathe that woman, but she had better writing than ****, and at least had some semblance of a life outside of Billy. I guess I'm really a sucker for the ex's that can't stay out of each other's lives, because ATWT's Jack and Carly are cut from the same cloth. I don't think anyone outside of the Coopers really acknowledged Nadine's death. They find her body at the beginning of '96, right? Billy doesn't return until the end of '96. They really should've kept Vanessa and Nadine in each other's orbits after the fallout, but Guiding Light really didn't do longstanding rivalries. And I think they were trying to rehab Nadine after the divorce, and wanted the audience to forgive her a bit. ATWT had some version of the globe for YEARS. Then I think they went to the "Seasons" opening after Marland's death. Which is a beautiful opening, don't get me wrong. They never abandoned the globe, per se. It was just incorporated differently. Yes, that's Reva, and the kid Billy's fighting with is their son Dylan (this is before they knew him.) It's some of Morgan Englund's first scenes on the show. Late June of '89.
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!!! That AMC opening is what I grew up on and what I still think today is the best soap opera opening of all time 😜 Yep, that's Nadine. Long story short, Billy fell off the wagon when Reva "died". Billy had ended things with Nadine, and gotten engaged to Van, but Nadine would sleep with him, knowing he was drinking. When Josh left (to look for Reva, who might've been alive), HB and Josh put Vanessa in charge of Lewis Oil. (Billy had made poor business decisions and nearly bankrupted the company.) This pissed Billy off, and he took Nadine to Vegas to gamble. He won some money and married her while he was drunk. It took him two years to shake that bloodsucking tramp loose. re: the character pics over the long ending credits, I can't think of another show that did them. But I only watched the CBS soaps. Y*R had the sketches opening for a long while, but ATWT never had characters in the opening until nearly 2000, IIRC.
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Oh...the reason I loathe Nadine with a passion... Onto other things-- Josh had just left at the end of January. Arguably, Josh's scenes saying goodbye to Billy are the best of Robert Newman's career. As a viewer, it now surprises me that there aren't A and B versions of the outro. Did soaps just not have them at that time? Or not do them as often? Guiding Light had two version when they went to the "My Guiding Light" theme, there was the Vanessa/Nola opening, and there was the Billy/Mindy opening. Especially when the opening has a lot of missing major players. Characters included: Blake, Billy, Ed&Maureen (lousy fake small picture) Alex, Roger, Hamp, Mindy, Mallet, Vanessa, Dylan, Harley. No Ross, Holly, Samantha, Alan-Michael, Nadine (not that I mind...) Maybe that's why they did all the actors over the long closing credits. That was easily edited (I guess). This episode also features the long crawl, and Robert Newman is already out, while Grant and Beth Chamberlain are still in.
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Soap Hoppers: The Soap Actors And Roles Thread
Happy New Year to you, and thanks for all the work you've done!
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As popular as Janet Grey probably was, it is a sad kind of fading into the background to the character. It is interesting hearing about Billy and Mindy before they show up in town. I knew there was friction between the Josh/Trish and Billy, but it doesn't always translate from the German.
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The '79 episodes seem to be in the vault already. The '83 ones don't seem to be. I would guess they are both from the first half of May. The Vanessa one has a promo for Barbara and Gunnar's wedding (John is planning revenge on someone). The Tony one also features Mark's funeral, and has a promo for Y*R's Nikki cheating on some husband (I got no idea who it is, or who she's cheating with), and Paul and April getting engaged(?).
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SQQQUUUUEEEEEE....I LOVE devious Ross!!!! The last ten minutes or so have to be from 1980. And what is more awkward? Guys answering doors with only towels wrapped around their hips, or in a full bathrobe, and then sitting next to someone on a couch? I thought it was the first, but the second is hella nasty.
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Soap Opera Cast Lists and Character Guides- Cancelled and Current
Just caught his name---Bart Neilsen his last appearance would've been late April/early May 1983. He leaves town after blackmailing Vanessa out of her yearly income. If I ever find the actor's name, I'll be sure to post.
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India ran into Phillip when he faked his death in '90. It mimicked their first meeting, when he gave her a ride in the rain. And yeah, there was a point soon after he found out Dinah was his daughter where he and India were trying to maintain the girls' connection. She (has something to do) and ships Dorrie over to him for a sleepover. He finds it stressful.. ***SQQUEEEE****some 1983 episodes have been loaded. Vanessa's PI's name was Bart Nielsen! I've never known his name before!
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Janet Grey has the same kind of really quiet character, and there is something so lovable about her. Maybe it was the "kid sister" kind of chemistry that she had with Lenore that just sold it, I don't know. "Listless" is a good word. Maybe it has something to do with being in scenes opposite Cindy Pickett, who is just so energized.
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