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    The Tennis Thread

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    Posted · Edited by Faulkner

    Crazy. A swarm of bees invaded the main court at Indian Wells during the Alcaraz/Zverev match, causing a delay. Carlitos got stung.

     

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    BREAKING NEWS: 'The Gates' Will Debut in January 2025

    in Discuss The Soaps

    Posted · Edited by Faulkner

    A Deadline article from Lynette Rice who speculates on the future of The Talk in light of the development of The Gates:

    https://deadline.com/2024/03/cbs-new-soap-the-gates-the-talk-1235856210/

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    Film Awards Thread

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    BREAKING NEWS: 'The Gates' Will Debut in January 2025

    in Discuss The Soaps

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    19 minutes ago, Aback said:

    It's funny how some people here are somehow pretending they predicted this lmao

    I'm not that excited about the news. I know I should be - it is a good sign after all. But I wish there was some indication that the genre is being reinvented. Because it needs to. Are we still considering depicting the life of rich people? Come on.

    On the topic of reinventing the formula, the poster sharing that CBS might be willing to re-air the show in a night-time slot was promising. I wish I had more of those signs, but I know it's too, too early.

    I'm also skeptical about P&G's involvement. P&G has long history with soaps, we know that. But they haven't dealt with soaps since 2008 or so. Where has their know-how ended up? The people involved with soaps must have retired by now. And I'm sure they left no handbook.

    As for B&B, I remember Brad Bell playing golf with one of Netflix's big bosses... I'm sure he has a back-up plan.

    I’m very skeptical. Hopeful, yes. Excited by the sheer wildness of a new daytime soap even being considered in 2024. DAYS getting shunted off to Peacock seemed like it gave permission to the other networks to go soapless. Nothing about the state of GH, Y&R, or B&B would have given anyone confidence that networks were investing in the genre. (Y&R and B&B’s treatment of their Black characters has been uniformly half-assed if not offensive.) The proposed AMC revival had a dreadful pedigree and wasn’t even going to air in daytime. And the more we heard about it, the less promising it seemed.

    The soaps have been so lazy and stale for so long that these new developments (PM coming out of retirement to co-HW GH, The Gates) are a shock to the system. We haven’t had excitement surrounding the genre in MANY years.

    For the last five or six years, if soaps made the mainstream news, it was usually a story about the untimely tragic death of a soap icon. It was becoming depressing to even come to this board at times. 

    All of a sudden, we have proof of life. We can certainly try and work our way back to identify signs that we either overlooked or underestimated. A few people like @Vee and @DramatistDreamer suggested that maybe the pandemic and the bursting of the SVOD streaming bubble could lead to a reinvestment in soaps. There does seem to be a return to the “comfort food” of the old monoculture. Pluto is basically the cable bundle reimagined. Even award shows are rebounding from their previous lows. The Super Bowl just had its biggest viewership numbers ever. There are some promising signs of life among broadcast and cable viewership numbers. 

    That said, we’re still nowhere near where things were even 6-7 years ago before the bottom fell out. Technological advances aren’t going to stop. Daytime audiences are still literally dying off, and whole generations are growing up with a completely different concept of consumption. Streaming is great, but they still haven’t figured out how to make it comparably lucrative for anyone but the executives. We all know that CBS, like many of the major media companies, is constantly the subject of merger and acquisition rumors, which have only adds a new layer of uncertainty.

    I’m curious about the economics of launching a soap in 2024, even one owned by a network in partnership with a built-in sponsor like P&G. It’s expensive to do a soap well. What numbers would The Gates need to hit in terms of live viewing to be sustainable in this day and age? What will P&G be happy with?

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    BREAKING NEWS: 'The Gates' Will Debut in January 2025

    in Discuss The Soaps

    Posted · Edited by Faulkner

    B&B’s international success doesn’t necessarily help CBS, although the show isn’t reliant on that license fee alone like so many “client-owned soaps,” as the dreaded Les Moonves once put it.

    The show feels cheap to me on the day-to-day, and the cast is tiny even by its half-hour standards, so obviously they are feeling some crunch. Granted, Brad could attempt to move his show exclusively to a streaming service if CBS canceled it.

    I would not cry if B&B (or any of the legacy series) got axed. I’ve already grieved Y&R’s loss even though it’s still airing, feel no connection to whatever DAYS has evolved into over the past 25 years, and while I’m hopeful that Patrick Mulcahey can make a positive impact at GH, I’m not exactly betting on it.

    I just hope this news might light a fire under Bradley Bell’s ass, but, knowing him, he’ll receive the *wrong* lesson from it, leaning into more nonsensical stunts for ratings instead of aiming for higher-quality, long-term storytelling and allowing an actual writer to take the creative reins.

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