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Hogan has some good months and moments on ATWT but he collaborated with some of the most seasoned writers who fleshed out the show unlike Marland who did not collaborate; his staff were sub-writers under him. Hogan needed Culliton and Passanante to translate his big story ideas into soap telling.  It worked for a while.  He fed ideas and crafted individual stories and fed them to MAB on Y&R.  His stint on Days was Higley-esque. It was a disaster. Horrible.  RIP. If you want to read a rather dramatic and soapy (and self-aggrandizing) eulogy, head over to Tom Casiello's twitter or FB page.  Poor Hogan was a hot mess but of course, the eulogy is all about Tom.  

Tom Hardy was the product of rape in 1969. MEK was born in 1959.  I think they could cast another in the role, a bit younger.

On 9/20/2019 at 8:05 AM, sheilaforever said:

You beat me to it. I always though he was the same age like his (deceased) writing partner Barbara Essensten. But I think I've never seen a picture and read something that he is old... Maybe he was rather young when he started writing Dynasty with her?

1 hour ago, teplin said:

 

Sometimes on the same show: Paul Rauch presided over the glory days of AW, then let it all fall apart around him after Harding Lemay left. 

Agree but I think Rauch had several mostly successful runs.  After LeMay left the show was kind of interesting under King/Soderberg for a year. It wasn't until they went with Corrine Jacker then L.Virginia Brown that it got really bad.  On GL, he presided over a fairly stable period but CBS interfered in the writing and forced plots written by others, most notably, Wendy Fishman is responsible for Reva clone, not Esensten/Brown.  On YR he was a good counterbalance to insane Maria Bell and the show looked great as he built on its elegant look without ruining it with Santa Barbara sets as Phelps did.

I think there were individuals who were good at one point as an EP then super horrible and for various reasons:

John Conboy and I mean "boy" cause he loved his boys even if they couldn't act: great on YR/horrible on GL because he squandered the show's last opportunity by hiring his arm piece Ellen Weston, who was worse that three McTavishes.

Frank Valentini: somewhat good on OLTL, great on GH for about a year and horrible ever since.  Multiple reasons.

Phelps was good on each show as long has she had great writers (GL/Curlee and AW King/Carlson) but the combo of her power grab and the network interference i.e. NBC wanted DePriest on AW,) meant the ruination of these shows.

The execs at P&G and the networks deserve a lot of blame for allowing Phelps to hire Doug Anderson (college professor), Valente to hire Stern/Black on ATWT, ABC execs kept rehiring McTavish for AMC, OLTL and GH.  

In fact, worst exec in modern times should go to Brian Frons.

Currently the worst exec is Steve Kent who has ruined YR

We all know there is no "third rail" for Carlivati. He'll probably be a  presumed dead fetus or still born from a prior plot line. 

It's the actor who plays Shiloh, but I wouldn't be surprised if Wes is cut as well.

2 hours ago, sheilaforever said:

You beat me to it. I always though he was the same age like his (deceased) writing partner Barbara Essensten. But I think I've never seen a picture and read something that he is old... Maybe he was rather young when he started writing Dynasty with her?

James H. Brown is 70 year old. 

I had heard rumors that Altman was out as of October scripts but I was surprised to see this article that mentions O'Connor as co-head with Chris. Has his name replaced Altman in the credits?

https://michaelfairmantv.com/gh-head-writers-chris-van-etten-and-dan-oconnor-reveal-more-details-on-michael-e-knights-new-soap-role/2019/09/18/

What diff does it make since viewers have been tuning out in droves and Days (which is also pretty bad) is starting beat them in ratings.

After yesterday's YR episode where everyone was tripping on Mollies, Josh Griffith needs to go stat.  This particular episode was a new low for any Y&R writing regime.

Days will be gone by then

1 hour ago, sheilaforever said:

Minor B&B update

 

Patrick Mulcahey last credited as storyline consultant: July 03,2019

 

Mulcahey is still writing scripts, though.

Maybe CBS/Sony can get him to consult on Y&R and bring in Curlee/Demorest.

She was incompetent. I'm surprised she wasn't promoted!

I cannot believe even this current hack creative team cut from Thursday's hit and run scene to the next day on Friday's episode so they could position all the characters in ridiculously insane post-accident positions. So Billy was lucid enough to try to run Adam down but he doesn't remember the accident. Chloe wasn't hit but saved Adam who doesn't know she saved him.  And after Adam was pushed then he what? passed out? He didn't see Chloe who was miraculously not hit?  Wow.  Either Josh is completely off his rocker or CBS/Sony came in and heavily edited the story.  So bad. Poopoo cacccaaa.

Days is done getting above 2million viewers. They're barely even getting 2mill but maybe once a week if that.  When Ron took over two summers ago in July, Dena's Days was pulling barely 2mill per episode. He hasn't increased viewership at all in two years.  I think he had an opportunity to pull some GH viewers away but he went way over the top and repetitive with all the back from the dead characters and the revolving door of short term players.

I think the next writer reshuffle will involve current staff promotions. Seems to me Amanda Beall is on the rise.  Sara Bibel was trained by Kay Alden but I don't think she has what it takes (to continue to ruin the show LOL).   I think Josh will last through the end of his one year in December.  But the execs must be head writer shopping. I think he'd be tossed before Morina.  

https://www.thedailybeast.com/this-young-and-the-restless-teriah-kiss-is-one-of-tvs-best-lgbtq-moments-of-the-year?ref=home

Sara Bibel was in the script editor slot on YR title cards today in place of Matt Clifford.  His name has been absent from the credits in the past for a few episodes and Ferri Esser was put in his place. Maybe he's on vacation barfing from the horrible scripts he's asked to edit.  Thought it was interesting that Beall, who's been associate headwriter since first week of June, wrote a script last week for the first time since May 31. Since she moved to the AHW position, they hadn't replaced her with a fifth script writer. The other four have been rotating turns getting an extra script a week.  I feel writing changes coming to support failing Griffith.....

I think this fall, once NBC tells Corday that Sept 2020 is Days' end date, Sony will move Ron Carlivati over to replace Griffith.  After all, Ron has surely written the bible for first half of 2020; the show is already filming end of March 2020 (see below).  They'll be filming Sept 2020 episodes in March 2020. Ron will have finished the outlines by end of Dec, no doubt. Quan can oversee the final months.  Ron can take over YR just as Griffith's one year contract ends in Dec (as does Ron's). You know Ron's already been watching YR.  Brad Bell would never hire him. It's the only show left for him to turn into a drag show.
Days: Week of 8/12/19-8/16/19 # 13806-13813 (airing 3/12/20-3/23/20)

Young and the Restless

Written by

Ron Carlivati

LOL

My god the woman's nearly 90.  I want to know the name of her cosmetic dermatologist!

You are free to think that a 20 something age difference between them is morally repugnant but that doesn't absolve Ricky. He's also an adult and is responsible for his actions.  Pray Tell's problem is that he's not thinking clearly and seeing Ricky for what he is: a ho', a playa, an irresponsible young adult who's risking others' lives so he can seduce and get is rocks off.  Poor Pray Tell.

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Marland did not improve TD. DePriest was the last head writer who made the show interesting.  Marland's hiring started its down fall.  DePriest was progressive and character driven.  Some stories didn't work but it was far more watchable than Doug's year. 

Wow, Rona was so right about AW!  My grandmother watched and I remember watching with her and thinking how shitty the scripts were and I was young!  Repetitive dialog for sure. Dumb scenes.  LeMay was sooo overrated, particularly once the show went to an hour.  And yet viewers tuned in. 

Ernie Pyshner aka Ernie Townsend who played Cliff Nelson on EON became a teacher/principal! 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/ernest-pysher-64485a20/

6 hours ago, Cheap21 said:

I just saw it and I HATE his character. I wanted Damon to punch him out and I’m upset that didn’t happen 

Ricky's the playa', ho'bag, cheat, liar, who exposed Damon to HIV and is praying on vulnerable Pray Tell!  

On 8/7/2019 at 2:59 PM, Cat said:

Reading all your comments about Season 2 thus far.... makes me sigh with frustration. Ryan Murphy always starts off with a promising concept. And Pose was so redolent of late 80s nostalgia and promise. I loved how real and larger than life the characters are, and how every episode gave most of them space to breathe. There was pathos but also laughter and quirk. So of course he had to fix what isn't broke and change it all up and... no. Just let these stories be. No need to over-egg the pudding.

Stick with it. Season 2 found it's footing with Episode 8, a nearly flawless show from the actors and especially Steve Canals, one of the EPs who wrote and directed. It was soap, poignant, unexpected and fiercely acted. Loveeed it. Other episodes have their issues this season but not this one.

Griffith/Morina aren't the problem. Why don't they ever fire Steve Kent and McDaniel. They're the two responsible for hiring these hacks and has been friends.

Sally McDonald should be in charge as EP.

32 minutes ago, xtr said:

 

They are so boring and they drag down the rest of the young people. Hardly any of the young people have much of a storyline, because everything in that set is centered around Lola.  And they keep throwing storylines at her and it's not working. Making Theo a troublemaker who wants to break up her and Kyle's relationship isn't working. And I think it's taking away from Theo who I believe could have been a more interesting character if he had his own storyline. (Even though I do like Theo).

 

Or at least a separate one with Summer away from Kyle and Lola. Now they have this secret from Kyle's which may not end up being good. And they will probably throw Papa Rosales into the mix. I wish they would focus on the other people in the young set more and stop focusing so much on Lola. I don't think she or her and Kyle as a couple can really carry a storyline on their own. They are too boring. I do believe Kyle could carry one away from her, he's done it before. 

 

And I think is kind of funny. Another post that was underneath that Y&R twitter post about, Kyle and Lola. Fans like the Tessa/Mariah fans are also getting tired of her. And a while back a lot those fans actually liked her, but they are turning against her. Even some of her own fans are turning against her now.

 

 

 

 

 

LOL. They should have dumped Lola, kept Mia and revealed that Kyle is bi and had a fling with his recently returned buddy.