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Sheffer had a great writing team the first two years to keep him in line then P&G forced the firings of Culliton, Demorest and Corley and the rest is Passanante history...

25 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

 

How was Kelly introduced? Was he related to anyone on the canvas?

2 hours ago, BetterForgotten said:

Didn’t Marland replace them in late ‘79?

The Dobsons wrote for GL from early 75 through December 1979. Marland took over in Jan 1980 and wrote the show until near end of 82, I think.  Pat Smith and L. Virginia Brown each wrote the show for a few weeks/months, but I can't find any youtube episodes from their short periods.  I know the Cullitons/Tomlin were interim head writers from early March 1983 until May when Long started.  I found episodes with credits during that time.

Lezlie Dalton and Denise Pence 2015 with Nelson Aspen

Loved Lucille and her set. Did GL ever repurpose her house set after the story ended?  Stephen Yates, what a doll.  The Dobsons were such a good fit for GL. It was their high water mark as head writers, in my opinion.  They started to do their Santa Barbara thing on ATWT and had two rocky stints on that show. Bridget indicated that they moved them over to ATWT because GL was getting higher ratings in late 70s an CBS/P&G wanted ATWT to be the ratings lead.

I thought the final opening sequence was one of the best themes in daytime. It was true to the theme that came before it for years.

3 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

I think the opening credits she show had post Gottleib were the best ones on ABC at the time.  Every time they got updated it wasn’t glaringly obvious.  Punchy, modern music, good graphics, the Banner and the Sun being utilized.

 

I loved Faces of the Heart on GH, but it did start to look rough with the edits over the years.  I hated the white AMC opening, and was so happy when they put the early 1990’s theme back in place.

 

I think the tour of Llanview works better without the lyrics.  The instrumental version is great though.

Phelps' ripped off Knots Landing for her GL opening but it was the best one of the modern GL era. Everyone who changed GL graphics after that made them worse.  

All the vocals from all the shows were so bad but I loved SFT and Edge and sang along.. When tomorrow comes, what will it bring....  Seems as though a harmony is hard to find... always on my mind.. Edge of Night, half dark half light!

Just now, robbwolff said:

 

Another World's final graphic can't be credited to Goutman. That change was made by Jill Farren Phelps in March 1996. Goutman didn't take over as executive producer until the fall of 1998.

Ah, that's right. I did like Jill's version of AW until DePriest took over. Goutman's credits on ATWT were awful too.

7 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

What's funny is that Gottleib improved the overall production values (lighting, directing, sets, etc) a lot, yet her opening didn't reflect those great aesthetical changes at all. 

I don't understand why these EPs stripped these shows of their identities. One of the worst was Edge of Night graphics the last 19 months.  How did Erwin Nicholson agree to approve that mess.  Edge always had the best opening and closings.  Another was Wheeler's last graphic on GL.  I did like Rauch's OLTL opening sequence.  Really fit Agnes Nixon's vision.   Only Goutman's final AW graphic was better than all the previous.

Gottleib's opening credits/theme ranks as one of the worst along second only to all the Valentini GH credits.

Everything about the concept and execution of this show as so wrong.  

That disco opening was just horrible. And rewatching late 79 to early 82 I'm surprised at how poorly the actors memorized their lines. Elvira, Don, Bert, some of them were terrible on a daily basis.  And the directing was stilted. Gail Kobe improved the show a great deal from that standpoint.

I know Doug Marland's stories started airing in Jan 1980 and his name was in the credits still in August 1982. When did his last episode air?  I can't find any episodes from September 1982 to Feb 1983 with credits.  I know The Cullitons and Tomlin were listed as head writers by early March 83.  I think Falken Smith lasted about 8 weeks right after Marland quit and she was HW of Days until April 1982.

15 minutes ago, NothinButAttitude said:

 

Is this one of the few clips of Anna Stuart filling in for Maeve as Vanessa?

Who were the actors playing Jackie, Carrie and Joe?

By late 1985 Pam Long had definitely run out of steam and she was pregnant and divorcing Jay Hammer. But typical P&G installs EP safe choice Joe Willmore and fires Jeff Ryder for Mary Ryan (a Labine writer) and Ellen Barrett, RH and SFT producer then dumps them after three months for Sheri Anderson from Days and her ancient soap producer then husband Joe Manetta before Pam comes back from maternity leave in September 86. They should have left Ryder and added Nancy Curlee.  I will say that Sheri and Joe weren't as bad as later temporary HW, McTavish or Anderson.

Bless his heart, Alan is a good guy but he is a terrible moderator and he should have no more than 3 guests.  This is a good writer panel.  

What about

Terrell Anthony (Rusty on GL)

And my dream three way....

Brian Bloom 

Grayson McCouch

The problem with Days is Corday. Hands down.  Meng is also a big fail.  If they were women they would have never lasted this long in the same job.

Huge Carlivati fail. 

13 hours ago, victoria foxton said:

Mostly GL Johnny's throat cancer battle.

Pam Long's low point was her second stint on GL especially during the Johnny throat cancer story. And when he was cured by the candle in the window.  

Every actor on Days is short term.

Interesting that Randy mentioned his conversation with EP, Joe Hardy.  Joe Hardy took over as EP during the 1988 writer's strike and was writing the show. Randy hated a script and confronted Joe who had written that episode. LOL.  Great trivia.  

There are four parts to this Bridget Dobson interview. I read all parts a while back. She talks about the GL/ATWT transition and other writer issues. Here's the link to one part.

http://pierin26santabarbara.blogspot.com/2012/12/my-exclusive-interview-with-bridget.html

3 hours ago, kalbir said:

I've fallen down the rabbit hole of looking at ratings, EP, HW, time slot history for CBS's daytime dramas. For As the World Turns, I looked through 1978/1979 (the year they lost #1) to 1994/1995 (the year of OJ and P&G's EP swap) and I compiled this history.

 

1978/1979: 8.2 (4th). EP change from Joe Willmore to Joe Rothenberger in December 1978. HW change from Robert Soderberg and Edith Sommer to Ralph Ellis and Eugenie Hunt in December 1978.

1979/1980: 7.9 (6th). HW change from Ralph Ellis and Eugenie Hunt to Douglas Marland in Fall 1979. HW change from Douglas Marland to Jerome and Bridget Dobson in December 1979. EP change from Joe Rothenberger to Fred Bartholomew in early 1980. Time slot change from 1:30 pm ET to 2 pm ET on February 4, 1980.

1980/1981: 7.9 (5th). HW change from Jerome and Bridget Dobson to Paul Roberts in April 1981. Time slot change from 2 pm ET to 1:30 pm ET on June 8, 1981. HW change from Paul Roberts to Tom King and K.C. Collier in August 1981.

1981/1982: 7.4 (tied w/ Y&R for 5th). EP change from Fred Bartholomew to Mary-Ellis Bunim in October 1981. HW change from Tom King and K.C. Collier to Jerome and Bridget Dobson in January 1982.

1982/1983: 7.6 (5th). HW change from Jerome and Bridget Dobson to Carolyn Franz and John Saffron in May 1983.

1983/1984: 7.9 (6th). Co-HW change from Carolyn Franz to Tom King in December 1983. Co-HW change from John Saffron to Millee Taggart in April 1984.

1984/1985: 7.1 (tied w/ Days for 6th): EP change from Mary-Ellis Bunim to Robert Calhoun in October 1984. HW change from Tom King and Millee Taggart to Cynthia Benjamin and Susan Bedsow Horgan in November 1984. Susan Bedsow Horgan becomes sole HW in February 1985.

1985/1986: 6.7 (7th): HW change from Susan Bedsow Horgan to Douglas Marland in September 1985.

1986/1987: 7.0 (tied w/ All My Children and Days for 4th). Time slot change from 1:30 pm ET to 2 pm ET on March 23, 1987.

1987/1988: 6.6 (6th). Writer's strike March-August 1988.

1988/1989: 6.4 (6th). EP change from Robert Calhoun to Laurence Caso in October 1988.

1989/1990: 5.8 (5th)

1990/1991: 5.9 (4th)

1991/1992: 5.8 (tied w/ General Hospital for 3rd)

1992/1993: 5.7 (5th). Douglas Marland passes away March 6, 1993. Juliet Law Packer and Richard Backus become HWs.

1993/1994: 5.8 (5th)

1994/1995: 5.1 (7th). January 1995 co-HW change from Richard Backus to Garin Wolf and Richard Culliton. EP change from Laurence Caso to John Valente in May 1995.

 

I thought someone on another chat suggested that Paul Roberts was an alias for Tom King and KC Collier was an alias for Millee Taggart. The timing makes sense as Tom King left Another World after 8 years or so in 1980. He and Millee were a couple at that time. She may have written soaps during the 1981 writer's strike and was brought aboard officially as a union writer in 1981.

Just now, amybrickwallace said:

 

Maybe, but Carla was already past 40 by then. Kim was 28. I don't think they had anyone over 40 envisioned for the hellraiser Reva was. Of course, I've been wrong before...

True dat, but maybe Pam wanted Reva to be older or the preferred actress may have been one of the younger ones from Texas. 

1 hour ago, Chris 2 said:

Carla Borelli was beautiful and had great screen presence. I was surprised that she didn’t become a primetime TV star. She would have made a great Liza on SFT.

In a recent zoom interview, Kim Zimmer mentioned that Pam wanted another actress (a friend of Pam's) to be cast as Reva. I wonder if it was Carla.  I assume Pam and Carla became friends while on Texas....