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A lot of collectors will not share their stash for free. They guard it vigorously and only agree to send out copies to other collectors who have something rare which they, themselves, want. Or they are interested in making money, and turn selling episodes to fans into a business. To each his own, of course, and if folks want to pay for copies of vintage eps, that's their perogative. It's been my experience, however, that if you are patient enough to wait, the material that sellers are asking money for will eventually end up being distributed for free by other fans whose main priority is to share the love.🤗

Me too! I'd eagerly watch the years 1968 to 1983 again!

The video itself is not available on the facebook page as far as I know; only the screen caps to entice fans. The collector who advertised the "new" 1973 ATWT ep only sells copies of his material or trades for other rare stuff that be wants, I believe.

The original version, concept and execution of OLTL were 100% different than what it later became. IMHO, it was gutted and destroyed under Rauch in the 1980s.) In the beginning, it was naturalistic, nuanced and adult in nature. Characters were diverse, spoke in believable dialogue, and behaved like people you would meet and know in your own community. It dealt with real-life issues, and didn't pull punches or turn everything into pablum for the lowest-common denominators in the audiences to understand. It was as if...TPTB took it for granted that their viewers wered erudite and educated. Imagine that! With long, character-driven scenes, it was like a mini piece of theater every day. It had to compete with the flashier soaps in the 1970s, of course, so more beautiful people were added and the plots started to move faster, but Llanview still felt like Llanview. Scriptwrite Don Wallace was an unheralded gem, and the hewadwriting team of Dordon Russell and Sam Hall were stellar. Then everything fell apart in the 1980s with sweeping changes in front of and nehind thecenes (and not for the better). The writing collapsed. A huge number of popular characters were axed and replaced by a revolving door of irrelevant newbies, and cretinously-stupid camp and science fiction drivel took over. Imagine This Is Us being turned into Beavis and Butt-Head overnight. Again, JMO, but I found it revolting, and a total bastardization of what the show was created to be. My favorite Viki was ES. I liked all the Dorians, but my favorite was Robin Strasser. I have a ton of favorite stories, all from the first 11-12 years of the series: the Viki/Joe romance, Carla's passing for white, the Jenny and Tim romance, the introduction of Pat and Tony, Dorian's descending into Llanfair, the Karen/Larry/murder trial/breakdown on the witness stand saga...the list goes on!

It's all subjective, of course, but I found TVD a little more refined and reserved than LB. LB came across as warmer, and she became my preferred Meredith. This is NOT to say that I disliked TVD. I did think she was good. Like on The Guiding Light, I found Mart Hulswit warmer and more appealing as Ed Bauer (and he was my favorite), but I would not claim that Robert Gentry was untalented...just different. GS was excellent as Viki, and she had chemistry with everyone, but ES really made the character her own, and her chemistry with Lee Patterson was off the charts. The second Viki, JD, was not as awful as legend would suggest, but she was just...colorless. Think Linda Borgenson as Alice on Another World, or Ann Hamilton as Mindy on TGL. Temporarily adequate, but not star material. Yes, when Nancy Pinkerton left the show, the portrait of Dorian was recreated to feature Claire Mailis' head. OLTL was very lucky that every single actress cast as Dorian was a fine performer, and they all had chemistry with Courtney, although because the Courtney/Strasser pairing was my sentimental favorite, I liked their interaction best. No, Jacqueline Courtney joined trhe show while Nancy Pinkerton was still there, and the actresses shared a dressing room for a while. There's an episode on youtube in which Pat is crying in the hospital courtyard over Tony Lord, and Pinkerton's Dorian approaches her and wonders if she's all right. And yes, Pinkerton played Dorian during the period of Victor's death.

I watched the show from 1968 to 1983, and then sadly gave up on it as Paul Rauch crippled it. So I was there for the unveiling on the original portrait of Dorian at Llanfair, and to see the different Merediths. Yes, I am old AF, LOL.

Thank you for the heads up, @victoria foxton! I loved, loved, loved the show back then.

Just to clarify briefly (I know this is not the AW thread, so I won't go into elaborate detail), both Bay City (AW) and its spin-off Somerset were acknowledged ON AIR during the 1970s to be in Michigan. The state for Bay City later changed to Illinois without explanation. (Careless indifference to history by TPTB always vexes me.)

Thanks for tagging me, @slick jones!

No Leslie Charleson. Sigh. From the first photo, I'd only keep 11 actors, and eliminate most (if not all) of the rest. GH needs a major overhaul, and a new producing/writing team.

Thanks again, @victoria foxton. It's wonderful to see vintage uploads in such good condition.

I appreciate the heads up, @DRW50!

Ditto! Thanks for the heads ups, @victoria foxton!

This is so depressing. RIP, Jerry ver Dorn. You inherited the honor of being TGL's patriarch at such a young age, and did a fine job.

Ditto! Thank you. I look forward to these.

I actually enjoy flashbacks (within reason), if they allow us to see important scenes again (or for the the first time if we missed them during their initial broadcasts). It took Bill and Laura Horton YEARS to get married on DAYS, and fans had been clamoring to see it for so long, I was not surprised to see a flashback to the wedding a few months after it had originally taken place. I WAS surprised, however, that the show televised the ENTIRE WEDDING act in its entirity during the flashback. It took up a huge chunk of that new episode. UGH, no, you really don't. ROTF! When AW first went to an hour, there was a long, loooooooong scene between Steve Frame and Angie, discussing ordering a supply of chairs for a warehouse. Yikes.

Hold back my hair. I'm gonna HURL. 🤢 🤮

That episode was terrifying to watch in real time. At least the stunt woman "playing" Julie was a professional. Suzanne Rogers must have been terrified. I doubt I would have agreed to participate in that scene, and good luck to NBC/Corday if they tried to force me into it legally. I would have won in court!

With Jamie on the outs with Rachel, I could see and accept him and Alice working together and developing a close bond, one which developed into a psuedo maternal-like relationship. Alice would naturally feel closer to Steve via her friendship with Jamie, and Rachel would feel increasingly insecure and jealous. It would drive her up the wall. That would work. 🤗

Julie was said on-screen to be 17, so slightly younger.

Yep. They simply do not make soaps like they used to.

IMO, 1966 to 1976 were DAYS' golden years. I loved Denise Alexander as Susan Martin.

Well, Alice had known Jamie since he was born, first as her "nephew" when Russ believed Jamie was his son, and then as her own stepson. I think the "emotional incest" stygma might have prevented her from ever seeing Jamie in a romantic light. I still cringe when I think of Rick/Freddie and Blake/Chrissy hooking up on TGL, because of their step-sibling relationship. Even worse: Craig Montgomery bedding his stepdaughter Dani, whom he took care of as an infant, on ATWT. 🤮

Thanks for the link to the OLTL stuff. From 1968, this material focuses on the wedding of Lenore Moore and Walter Curtin. Courtney appears as Alice. This clip is erroneously titled as being from 1975 and 1974. It is not. It's from 1973 and 1974. These are probably Courtney's best scenes from her ill-fated return (particularly the last one with Rachel).

There are several important scenes available on YT, from Courtney's earlier run on AW. She's seen in eps/scenes from 1968, 1973 and 1974, which show how effective she was an actress. Alas, her return in 1984 was a disaster, but I blame incompetent writing for that. (There was one good scene between Alice and Rachel from her return, however, surrounding Rachel's amnesia.)