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Here are some AW episodes from 1981, with Vana Tribbey as Alice Frame.

With the exceptions of Jacquie Courtney and Susan Harney, I have never seen any of the other Alices in the few YT clips available - so I will take your word for it.

You can find all of the Alices in youtube clips, if you are interested. I just watched a bunch of AW episodes yesterday with Vana Tribbey. There are several eps with Borgenson too, and at least one with Pfenning. You can see for yourself how wrong they were for the role.

I wonder if he would have had any chemistry with the actress playing Alice then, as Jacquie was still on OLTL.

The actress playing Alice at the time, Linda Borgenson, was blander than bland, and she had no chemistry with Canary or anyone else on the show (IMHO).

Did Rauch contact him about reprising Steve Frame when they brought him back from the dead in the '80s, or did they figure it was not worth the trouble and go with Canary? I know he could be extremely difficult to work with, but his return might've just been the shot in the arm the show needed.

I'm sure all the daytime press would have reported such an offer by Rauch to Reinholt, but there was never any mention of such a thing.

AW was actually lucky with the Steven Frame recast. David Canary was a fine actor, and had a strong screen presence, so I could understand why they chose him. Far less understandable is why the show kept choosing such atrocious actresses in the role of Alice. Susan Harney was at least adequate, but Vana Tribbey was too vapid and sexual, Wesley Pfenning was stiff and wooden, and Linda Borgenson had no depth or chemistry with anyone. These recasts were as bad as they could get.

I wish there was more of his AW work available. He definitely had charisma to spare.

Yes, he and Jacquie Courtney were huge stars back in the day. They were the Luke & Laura of the 1970s.

There are a few episodes and clips of Reinholt's work on youtube. There's an ep from 1974 with Reinholt's Steve talking to his lawyer John Randolph, with that annoying Rachel (LOL) butting in. There's a clip from 1968 of Steve's meeting Alice for the first time at Lenore's wedding to Walter Curtin. There's another clip of Steve phoning Alice, trying to talk to her, but she refuses, and then one from 1973 of Steve and Alice hashing out their differences in person.

Unfortunately, 99% of this golden era of AW is gone.

I would think that P & G would try to keep Reinholt and Courtney in the P & G family given their popularity. If Somerset was not an option, there was Search for Tomorrow, As the World Turns, Guiding Light, and Edge of Night. Putting them on Edge would have brought publicity to the show as it was getting ready to move to ABC.

Yes, you would think, but unfortunately, executives made bone-headed and incomprehensible decisions back then, just as they do today. Maybe P&G just wanted Reinholt out of their hair completely, which I can understand considering the stories of his allegedly difficult behavior. Both he and Courtney were snapped up by ABC shortly after they left AW, so perhaps NBC and/or P&G just didn't get their acts together fast enough, to secure either actor before they switched networks. Who knows? Whatever the reason, it was not the brightest move to allow two high-voltage stars get away. Even Harding Lemay admitted in his book that Courtney's appearance on OLTL may have helped its ratings steady rise.

Was there any talk of moving Reinholt and Courtney to Somerset at all? Somerset could have certainly benefitted from their star power, and Somerset producer Lyle Hill was their EP at Another World at one time. It just makes sense all around, I wonder if P & G and NBC ever considered it? Or was it nixed because Somerset filmed in the same studio as AW?

That probably would have been an excellent idea, but if there had been any talk of moving both actors to SOMERSET, it was not reported in the press.

I read an old article that after George Reinholt was let go from AW in 1975, Lin Bolen offered him a role on The Doctors. That same year, on that show, Gerald Gordon (Dr. Nick Bellini) was leaving to head West - though he did reprise the role briefly in 1976. Do you think that NBC would have cast GR as sort of a Nick replacement or basically Steve Frame as a doctor? Of course, all that became moot at GR signed with OLTL on ABC.

Reinholt referred to THE DOCTORS in an interview once, and acknowledged there had been some talk about his possibly joining that series, but he he preferred to make the break from NBC and go over to OLTL because the writing was better ("It's ethnic!") and he felt his contributions would bemore appreciated. Ironically, not long after, he was b*tching about how awful the writing on OLTL was, and how the writers should be fired. He claimed that Harding Lemay's scripts read like "a Chinese menu," but the OLTL scripts were...worse.

I was a devoted viewer back in the day, and while I agree there were some weaknesses in the writing for a while in the mid 1970s, Gordon Russell and Sam Hall were able to pull it all together and give us many brilliant storylines over the next few years. Erika Slezak has admitted that Reinholt was a handful to work with on OLTL, and that when he left, he went ranting down the halls, so I doubt he would have been happy at any show, under any writer. I think they should have killed off his character when he left. Trying to replace him was a disaster. The last Tony Lord, Chip Lucia, was so woefully miscast, you'd think the network was TRYING to turn off the Pat & Tony devotees.

Yes, Carl. She is Terry. Around the same time Joel Crothers slurped beer with the boys in a Lowenbrau commercial, Maeve McGuire extolled the richness of Dove soap with one quarter moisturizing cream, and Ann Flood modelled handbags in a cheap, videotaped 1-800- ad. Edgers were prolific in the 70s.

This made me remember that Jacquie Courtney, who appeared on TEON long before becoming famous on AW, did a commercial for Porcelana.

OMG! The useless trivia that remains unmined in the back of my head, LOL.

Yes, I think Holly confirmed the Loving thing. Holly is a great actress and I do believe some of her claims, especially the one that Agnes used her to garner publicity for her new show and then sort of relegated her to back burner status after mission accomplished. However by 69/70 Agnes was concentrating on the launch of AMC, so who knows how much the producers or network were to blame for her being backburnered. And of course, the way that Rauch and the network treated her and Lillian Haymen years later was beyond appalling. Some of her claims are just incredulous, however, such as Slezak's allegedly "racist" comments at a cast party. If Slezak did make comments, I'm sure that Holly misconstrued them and that Slezak was actually bemoaning the lack of the diversity in the show at that point.

As you say, by 1970, Nixon was concentrating on AMC, so Holly's storylines on OLTL throughout the next decade cannot really be blamed solely on Nixon. I was watching way back then, and contrary to Holly's complaints, she did continue to have storylines centered on her. Perhaps she was not the central heroine, but any soap is a repertory company, and actors have to accept seeing their characters sliding in and out of the spotlight.

I do believe many of Holly's complaints about mistreatment were true, and the way she and Haymen were fired is heinous. But it seems at times that Holly is primed to take offense, and leaps to negative judgment where it may be unwarranted (as with the Slezak quote).

Didn't Agnes Nixon offer her the chance to reprise Carla on Loving?

Hmmm.

I remember hearing that story, but I don't remember if it was true, or just an internet rumor. Maybe someone else can tell us.

Yes, I remember that RSW said some kind things about Jacquie in the SOD cover story on her passing. I've never seen Ellen Holly's work but it seemed she had an ax to grind with everyone. What a shame.

Ellen Holly was an excellent actress, and her character of Carla brought so much integrity and interest to OLTL for many years. I was furious when Paul Rauch fired her, and in such a spiteful manner, too. Her comments about so many people over the years, however, tend to suggest certain unresolved...issues she needs to deal with. That being said, I would love to see her pop up on another show.

There were also rumors about RSW having issues with HBS. I think RSW may have had a certain "type" (young hottie or what have you) and struggled otherwise.

I did appreciate, however, that after Jacqueline Courtney passed away, Woods was respectful in his interviews about her, and related some amusing anecdotes. I can't really blame actors for not having chemistry with every single performer they are paired with, as long as they don't get into gratuitously petty or vindictive public catfights about it. Some folks just don't get along, and that's fine. I find Ellen Holly's continuing to badmouth Courtney, decades after they worked together, to reflect more negatively on Holly than Courtney.

I read that he and Phil Carey often played pranks on her at OLTL (getting their hands wet and shaking hers, causing lines she had written on her hands to be washed away). Maybe she and RSW just didn't connect, especially since he seemed to get along fine with most of his other leading ladies.

I wonder if Jacquie remained in touch with Virginia Dwyer after both had left AW, since they seemed to be very close. I've exchanged a couple of emails in the past with Jennifer Desiderio, the daughter of Jacquie and Carl. Jennifer says the only time she met George Reinholt as an adult was at that "50 Years of Soaps" special where "Alice" and "Steve" were reunited on stage. It was the first time they had seen each other since she was a little kid.

Phil Carey seemed like a handle to work with, for some women. Julie Montgomery (the first Samantha Vernon) also had issues with him. Yes, I remember the story about Phil Carey and his wet hands, LOL. He admitted to finding such pranks hilarious, although I find them childish and mean-spirited.

Is this Karen Morris Gowdy? I can't tell.

Yes it is, and the actor is (I imagine you know) Richard Shoberg, from SOMERSEY, THE EDGE OF NIGHT, and ALL MY CHILDREN.

From everything I've read and heard about her, she seemed just as beautiful on the inside as she was on the outside.

The only person whom I have heard say he "didn't much care for her" was Robert Woods (Bo, OLTL), but he never explained why.

What a great anniversary article. Love Jacquie's white gown and matching feather boa.

Agreed; she looked like a goddess.

On Somerset, Bill the bartender's last name was Greeley.

(Back in the day, I kept scrapbooks on all my favorite soaps, and this is how actor Bill Moor was credited.)

I wrote to him at his last YT channel, and politely urged him to disguise the names of Peyton Place and other shows which are always targeted for deletion, but he said that he was willing to take the chance of keeping the shows under their complete, actual titles. Since he is now back, and uploading all the same titles under their original names, you just KNOW he's going to get his channel deleted again.

As always, Carl, you are amazing! I had wanted to get a good copy of JC's Life Story article for years. Thanks again!!!!!!

I loooooooooooooooooooooved those articles, Carl. Thank you so much!

Do you have the Life Story, done by Afternoon TV, of Jacqueline Courtney? It was several pages long and a great read, as I recall.

I also read that Brewster was Edwina's foster brother from her years in the system. Brewster also brought Gretel (Rae) to town as his assistant.

The show clearly had plans for the character, but alas, the actor playing Adam Brewster defined the adjective "icky," and had no chemistry with anyone. He was even more poorly cast than the pompous, dunderheaded character of Jack Scott.

UGH.

Yeah, it was a brief marriage in 1979. I believe she left him when she realized he was broke, but made a shady deal with San Carlos (the imaginary nation) for guns. She annulled the marriage the same year.

I remember they broke up, but I don't remember them actually having married...at all. I must be having an early "senior moment," LOL.

From Google Archives Jon Michael Reed columns:

Bruce Moreland (Jun 1980) dated Pat Ashley (Kendall Brewster at this point) played by John Rixley Moore

Sherry(late 79)...Lisabeth Shean who moved on to play Catherine Shaw on The Doctors.

When did Pat Kendall marry Adam Brewster?

I don't remember that at all. The actor had no charisma or chemistry with Jacqueline Courtney, and didn't last very long.

I would love to know whatever happened to Trish Stewart (the original Chris Brooks Foster on The Young and the Restless).

She seems to have vanished, and no current information is available about her on the web.

Ditto Pamela Peters (ex-Peggy Brooks, The Young and the restless).