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dont forget Angie! We got 3 flop housewives this fall and its so sad having to watch them

OMG, Sally still aint dead?

You'd think Id admit it if I were QUEEN

A black person can not be racist in this country. Garcelle actually gave Dorit grace by describing her behavior as unconcious Karen behavior as opposed to simply labeling her as such

Did she lie though? Mary pretty much said the same thing on WWHL when Andy asked her why she came back. Season 3 was HORRIBLE! Bravohas to know that and the ONLY reason anyone is talking about season 4 is bc of Monica. PERIODT! She and Mary put eyes on this show nad have been involved in all the viral moments

I dont think she lied. She would have had tp have had multiple correspondence with production, especially since they moved forwad with her. Im not convinced that she never wrote the stuff that she mentioned at some point. The only showed one email and to me that doesnt really prove anything Im with @NothinButAttitude. The reunion was kinda boring other than the parts that focused on Monica. She gathered the women and came prepared. Im interested in seeing how Bravo proceeds with her bc everyone is justified in not wanting her around but she is GOOD tv and saved a dying show. The little drama that the other women have amongst themselves is just petty and not interesting. Monica is a true force multiplier and I equat her to Tamra and Kenya, both of whom completely changed the game on their respective shows. She activates people and there is a genuine reason for the dislike. I need more of her

Chiillle this was a MESS! The reunion should be interesting

Welp! And Mary was her only supporter post-reunion. I know Mary is DONE with her now

I think she looks damn good for someone pushing 50

I just watched the anniversary special and man was that dry

I didnt even know he was on the show

I saw it last night and my jaw DROPPED! I loved that it wasnt saved for the last 5 minutes and they really let it marinate. The editing was perfect. What was best was that this did NOT leak which seems impossible in this modern age bc we see all the storylines play out on SM before the season airs. Im glad this was kept under wraps as it made it that more enjoyable. I stan Monica and ready for her to embrace her villian era. Season 5 with her would be MUST SEE TV. We need her back

@Soaplovers Robyn for sure. The GEBS need to be seperated and I think losing Robyn would force a change in Gizelle that would cause a shift in the group dynamic bc she would longer have power. Many thought Robyn should have been fired after last season but the producers wanted to take advantage of her story with Juan. Well its not give what they thought it would primarily bc Robyn is still guarded and holding back so I say get rid of her. Ashley isnt offering anything new and I see next season being more of the same. She doesnt even have Michael to film with anymore so her personal story feels so dry. Her kids are too young to be her primary scene partners unlike Gizelle with her teen daughters. Ashley can return in a friend of capacity. Nneka. I want to say just fire her but I think she could potentially be a better housewife if she's able to take in the criticism and come back for a better season 2. Wendy and Candiace need to stay. Karen has no story but she's a familiar face and the true glue of this franchise. Id be all for Gizelle leaving but i dont think the show can lose both GEBs. It can survive with them in a new status quo

I dont think she will. This is so messy and the type of storyline they wish they got out of Porsha. Imagine if Gordon continues to film? Mia also is back cool with Jacqueline so I can see the producers bring her back to buff up Mia's story and presense on the show

She's engaged!

lol...she's on her Simon Gioudabia and just secured her spot for next season

I want the cast to be Tamra Heather Shannon Alexis Vickie Jen I could tolerate Emily back but definitely not Gina except in a friend capacity so she can react to Shanon's DUI

Agreed. I dont think there's anything more she can do at this point Thats not an easy trip too! It takes 6 hours to fly to SF from ATL and then another 2 hours AT LEAST, with no traffic to get to Napa. That has got to be one of the most exhausting way to get fired. They didnt even do it in the morning after she rested. They were no, get your butt up at 1:30 AM so we can terminate you on the spot. That was savage

Merry ChristMESS! Chiile, Alexis gives zero Fs now.

I GASPED! This was so unexpected

Was she a good recast? Did they really do anything with Taylor?

AMC Cassandra and Natalia. Angie's daughter Cassandra joined the show in 2008 and exited after a few months. Later that year they brought on Jessie's daughter Natalia. They were the same exact character

It was! I almost felt bad for her until she said she had no emotional attachment to the women. Okay, then girl, bye! She makes it so hard to like her. I also laughed at her bestie Phakedra throwing her to the side with her "I dont know her" attitude. Heavenly was a delight exposing her for the liar we all know she is.

Kim Zolciak is insinuating that she's pregnant She is mentally disturbed and I blieve this is another stunt for attention

Rachel should have returned