Mitch64

My other victim would have been Buzz, but could you imagine the long..long..death scene they would give Deas...sputtering, spitting, arms a flailing about! And yes, they would have Fletcher come back as ghost, dressed in white with that dumb ass hat, to tell Holly he will always watch over her...YUCCCCK!

I do like that, but I still like Nola, who has been gone for so long, walk into things, believing that Ed was Mr. Husband (she was around for Claire, so at least Ed and Mo had a solid marriage when she left) and try to dig into things without knowing it was still an open wound, which was a totally Nola thing to do, barge in, knock the table over and then try to put it back together. But, she would be the catalyst and Bridget could be the emotional core of the fallout. Ed becomes just another father figure that is a failure..and Chelle feels that something is wrong between Bridget and Ed and does not understand what is going on, etc. Maybe Rick and Bridget become close as he too is sick of Ed's failures while Holly comforts Ed (much to the annoyance of boring Fletch, who is my scenario, is slated with an enounter with Brent/Marion..that's a good idea, Holly is off comforting Ed when Fletcher gets the knife and she is full guilt as we all know she doesnt actaully love him.)

That's why I think they needed to revisit it...Van having to deal with her hidden anger at Ed (she never let him have it) Rick finding out and angry (Mo was the only Mom he knew) and brining up old issues of having an alcholic dad who was not stable...did Bridget know? I would have Ed start to turn to the bottle again..the only person who could really prop him up would be Holly, I would use that as a lead to them being involve again...( I think MG and PS had good friendship chem, but that is okay,) and Lillian being angry that she had to take the blame (I would want a showdown between Lil and Nola where Nola gets to slap her!) Did Roger know? I would love for Roger to throw that in his face, and maybe be the one to deliver the news to Nola..."You know what your brother in law, the good upstanding pillar of town was up to while you were gone?"

This is why Ed was never a viable character, much less as a patriarch, which was the family and the town needed at that time. Not because he screwed up as I like my patriarchs with an edge (look at H.B.) But he never seemed to take responsibility for it, or any remorse. This is why they missed a big opp when Nola returns, in my view I wou ld have her be best selling novelist of adventure/romances, the kind people eat up but are embarrassed to say they love, who comes to town to change her writing style and do maybe an article on Mo (and also our of guilt for not being around for years and intent on "fixing the family" in a weird Nola way) and starts to interview people and sees something strange when people talk about her death. Van of course tells her to just focus on Mos life or forget about it all togehter, which makes Nola more intent then ever to do it. Anyway, she discovers the truth and confronts Lillian but more importantly Ed, leading him to show remorse, guilt and take responsiblity for the whole thing. Then they can do the Ed/Lillan scene at the grave that they did near the end of the show, that some smart writer put was responsible for (and Wheeler actually let air.) Having a patriarch with feet of clay is fine, if they take responsibility for it, and I never saw that with Ed. PS to his credit when he returned seem to play that regret and trying to do right by his family.

It was McTavish..she did not do friendships especially female well. I do have to say, she also almost purposely destroyed the relationships and the extended family that even JFP didn't obliterate...because of Mo, a lot of people were connected..Bridget in one scene at least considered AM her cousin..she doesn't like Lucy at first because of her stealing his car or something. Later, McTavish has Chele call Van, her mom's best friend, Mrs. Chamberlin, as she does her own aunt, Nola. I thought Hayden had it in her to grow the character of Bridget, but McTavish regressed her, being a foil in the Dinah/Hart relationship, and resorting to pathetic scheming like getting Peter to act like he was sick to get Hart to come over. That was not the Bridget that we saw before McTavish, one who was growing up. I still think Bridget would eventually fill a Mo role..after a lot of bumps and turns.

LOL...this has to be the funniest and most accurate description of the men during this period. Agreed, none of the women were dressed (or written true to character..) Reva got it just as bad as the rest as she woudl NEVER want to be dressed as a soccer mom...(I imagine her still holding on to her big hair and shoulder pads from hey day and looking ridiculous) Nola dressed as some drab waitress...ugh.

That was me, and I agree, Nick and Gilly would have been interesting. My story would ave had Roger framed for killing Fletch, Nick would have of course belived it, Gilly who worked with and against Roger, doesn't and they both are at odd with that, and trying to keep the jouranl together as Holly goes off the deep end with guilt .

I love this, and it perfectly captures what GL was and why, thought its ups and downs, I loved it more then ATWT. The Bauers were an immigrant family that made good...and matriarch Bert Bauer was a shrew who grew into the town rock, while her daughter in law (who believe it or not ran away from SF to shack up with someone) grew into that role, an Berts sister in law grew from a troubled woman into that grew into that role, and all the others along the way who had wild sometimes unsavory pasts evolved to support their families and others (H.B. Henry, Ross, and yes, even old Buzzard.) GL was messy, with a big old heart, and Springfield was a place you could be a little weird!

Good God!The gates to Hell have opened! And he had that damn guitar!

Yes, and all of this could have been revealed when they did do the storyline...only nobody gave any thought to it..."Hey, let's make Brandon Amanda's father" .."Okay, that sounds good , how? Should we research the show, read old scripts, watch old clips, investigate the timeline to somehow stitch this together using the character's personalities and backgrounds that the audience knows"..."No, let's just say it is."...."Okay, what is the fallout?"......"I don't know, we get rid of Alex, and Alan just calls Amanda his sister now?"

Court did, I believe..a one day as one of Grant Coleman's exes? This was during the whole "Is Grant trying to swindle Lisa and maybe kill her" storyline which was an utter fail for Marland...(that would be like, "Is Mike Bauer running drugs for a cartel.")

I love all of this backstory reasoning with Amanda, and why the Brandon is daddy twist would work. I also think that it explains Alex's obsession with hating on Amanda (at that time they just thought Alex was an obsession hating woman machine) and also, I would have written a bit that Alex sought Amanda's help with the court battle with Roger and Jenna for Spaulding but Amanda ignored it (as she didnt have the money but didn't want to say that.) One thing about BevAlex, as much as she manipulated/browbeat/fought her family, she wanted them to stand together against outsiders. And yes, Mart was a total DILF (as we see Marlands' fanstasies ran more for the muscled young men, preferably farm boy/blue collar types.)

That makes sense...giving Alan a sister...(maybe the inspiration for Alex..) would be a different spin on the who's the daddy. I'm sorry but I always thought Cullen was too wet of a blanket to be the Father of All Darkness's daughter. Now Poser I could buy (though she played it with a bit too much twinkle in her eye, Brandons' sire should be conflicted...the only problem I have with Poser as Amanda but during that time it was a welcome relief to have someone practically winking at the camera saying "I know none of this makes any sense but lets have fun." ) I can buy sicko Brandon giving Amanda to another sicko...if it was his he wanted it to be hidden and punished, and if it was Alan's he just he just wanted it punished. If it was rape I can also buy suppressed memories, and I can see that Brandon is well set to be a rapist as well "Now see if that son of mine still wants you!" Her memories would make her believe it was Alan's, recreating history. I don't know if the timelines work out, but what if Alex found Jennifer after the rape...that is the final straw and incentive to leave town for good. The parentage reveal happened when she was out of town, and she chose to go along with the lie when she got back...(or use it to her advantage later.) In Barbados after Brandon kicks she finds the will, and Brandon's confession and a typical Brandon tortue...either announce the will and give all power over to Amanda, or take the second will that leaves everything to his acknowledged children...hides that as well..thought I think Alex would be smarter then sticking it in a bust in the study.

I think Toby was fine as Amanda..yes the age thing was wonky...but it was one of those things we soap viewers just dealt with..I do think if the writing was better it would have worked better on both Poser's side (Amanda was fun as a campy vixen but there needed to be more and Poser could bring it) and for the Brandon being the father side.. which I agree makes sense given what Marland wrote...(wasnt Alan really in love with Jennifers sister and just bonked Jane Marie for sympathy) including why did Brandon give Amanda to his secretary and why did he originally give everything to her in the will? A rapre or seduction would work as the reason Jennifer kept the lie up, and she and Amanda seemed to have a troubled relationship, explained by Jennifer being secretly resentful of her. But there was no fall out . This would have been a great time to drive a new wedge between Alan and Alex, and drive him into Annies help mate and yet another fight for control of Spaulding. But they ship Alex off and Alan just starts calling Amanda his "sister" as if it had always been that way.

Especially since GA was in his late 30s early 40s around the time Rauch took over. Having Phillip and Rick acting almost as if they were in their 2os was silly. I would have Annie actually mistakenly kill Alan (or maybe not so..maybe she starts poisoning him I would have him getting bored of her instead of carrying her purse of evil deeds all day long) and then Phillip is forced into Spaulding patriarch, putting a crimp in his and Harleys relationship, brining both Amanda and AM back...with occasional visits from Alex to run interference, or cause trouble (Marj/Alex isn't bad when in small doses.) Someone up thread mentioned Mike's women..does anyone remember when Reva first hit town she was flirting with Mike? I remember her in a big fur coat sitting on his desk...(why...was he lawyer to her to get a divorce from Billy?) I just watched some of the 60th anniversary episodes..and Reva is just walking away from yet another argument with Annie, and she closes paths with Lillian and Mike walking by, and she looks surprised and quickly waves. I wonder if that was Kimmer remembering that she knew him, etc (Kimmer looks great during the anniversary episodes I must say.) Speaking of this time period, I know Rauch in in place, and McTavish was fired before Liabson, but the material seems to still be McTavish outline going into the anniversary..with the angel etc. I wonder if she outlined the Amanda is Brandon's kid or if that was a Rauch/interim writer thing...it seems all McTavish's style.

Lizzie being inspired by her glamorous grandmother's career as a not starving artist would be great, and connect with Beth's former artist ambitions which were forgotten when Rauch and team brought her back as a screwed up stuck up mean girl. I would have thrown in Marina at that time who was played by Aubrey and was wasted. I would have Lizzie being a Morgan type and Marian being a Nola ( I would even have her live in Nola's old room, "A girl who lived here before carved initials N.R. + K.N..who stupid and silly, she probalby love it here in this dump!") Marina wanting a Spaulding lifestyle and Lizzie wanting to follow a artist career path. I know what you mean about joining Spaulding, but I love the "Ex Wives Club" as a highlight of the post Curlee years. Maybe India made it her goal to befriend "Phil-eppes" mother and Elizabeth signs over her stock to India to be a thorn in Alan's side and to f*ck with Liv.

I LOVE this! Totally agree and that was my first thought when Joan/Alex appeared..and I LOVED Joan/Alex but I knew she wouldn't stay long. Plus they could have pumped up her return as yet another mother gone to Europe for years who were estranged from her kid. I would have had Elizabeth paying off a long time Spaulding staffer to keep her updated on things, and hearing that Lizzie was lost between her parents drama and when Alan faked his hear attack she did the same thing Alex did, report it drop the stock and buy it all up to come back and kick Alan. It would also be a good way to bring a recast Mike back..he and she were a couple again.

Actually, I have to say, Long had Bert mention Simone when Bill died..as in "Oh, I need talk to Simone, this will be so hard on her,' and Meta was mentioned a few times, (mainly when Charita was ill, she was visiting Meta and Mo went to visit them and came back with "Bert is great, but Ed she lost some weight so don't be suprised," ) mainly to prepare us for her return after her amputation. And of course, after Charita died Bert took care of an ailing Meta off camera. Its weird, (and I know others disagree) but Long and company I felt did a great job at respecting history and bringing thoughtful things like this in, what went wrong in 85?

I remember the little red headed girl who played Christina played her like a brat...she was manipulating Rita into Evil Step Mom mold, and when Rita told her to set the table or something , she threw the napkins down in a fit...so Blake was always going to be trouble! I also remember that was the time that "Freddie" was at boarding school (mooing over Phillip???) so it doesn't make it like they grew up that much together so the the drunk screw is less..icky.

I'm neither here nor there on Dano...but I am thinking like they should have...if Dano likes Wheeler and is willing to work for the GL cash for fun..why not have her do somehting of importance..."Linda Dano joins Gl as a mysterious woman who may know..."Who shot Phillip" or some such thing. It has been so long that viewers wouldn't remember Elizabeth that well and she has been away for years..."I know what it is like, what that man does to you..breaks you..hallows you out until you have to escape to another world (haha) to escape him. I did that, and it took me a long time to find my strength, and my son, you will too. Until you can fight, I will for you." or some such soap nonsense. There is always a hint that Elizabeth is not quite right still, but she has a backbone.

Dorothy Lyman was on GL for the last few months? Was it like Linda Dana who played Harley's cell mate that who did it favor of Wheeler and to keep her union insurance ? Speaking of..I wish they had brought Dano back as Elizabeth Spaulding at that time. In my scenario it would have been an alter of Beth shot Phillip (to protect Harley who she thought was being attacked by Phillip, it was the same alter that killed Professor Rayburn that Beth created after the Bradly rape) Alan would think that Harley did indeed kill him, so instead of framing her in his mind he was seeing justice was done.) Elizabeth somehow had the docs declare Phillip dead and sent him to be cremated(or so everyone thought) and then brought him to her estate for him to get well and to protect from Alan (who SHE think is the shooter.) Anyway I think Dana could play a woman who waws previously a victim and who is a bit...still nutty herself.

I don't know...we accepted Alexandra as a never before heard from sister...I know at her intro she was estranged but all the drama around Brandon's death and will and she was never mentioned. I think a branch of the Bauer family was acceptable...but Johnny was just so damn dull! I always wanted ATWT to bring on Chris Hughes brothers grandkids, this would have worked well during the Dobsons efforts to "contemporize" the show...I could see a farm girl moving in with Nancy and Chris and Nancy having another Lisa on her hands!

It's odd, as Long got rid of Bea Reardon (who just disappeared) and brought on Jack and Lainie who along with Hawk and Sarah..ran the boardinghouse. They were first on recurring and then offered contracts as if they thought of a story to get them involved..yet they didn't do anything. I like the idea of an older stable Bauer couple, and am okay with Faux Bauers...though I would have said that Meta raised Johnny and sibs after their parents died, giving a connection to history. We know why Hawk and Sarah had material as tehy had to prop up Reva..but what made Long create this couple?

For Meta definatley Teri Keane who was brought in to fill a Bert role as Johnny's mom but got nothing to do. I think she seems someone from a blue collar background who could also feel comfortable at the Country Club, and the thing I liked about Stuart's Meta is that she was supportive but could tell she was tough cookie (her scene in the kitchen with Claire is classsic.) which Keane could do. Also I guess I just remember her as a preschooler on the Edge, and she always seemed stable and calm but could lay someone out. I do think that Audrey Peters would have been good as well (despite their resembelance, I never bought her as Reva's mom. Speaking of Reva, as others said, her best material post resurection was under Wheeler. That was the Reva that seemed to connect with Long's Reva..she seemed tired but still had fight in her, was loving but also self centered...and you could see that she had a life loving men, sex, food and well, lets be honest..booze, with no apologies.

I always thought they should have brought him back for Bert's memorial, (well, there were a lot of people they should have brought back) especially as Rick was going through his drug phase...have him point out to a clueless Ed that something was going on with Rick.."While you spend your time worrying about this Claire woman, Rick is falling apart. But I still wish they had brought back Meta at that time, have her take over the boardinghouse for Bea as a favor to Mo, and stick around to tangle with Claire and set the young people in town straight.