Mitch64

Especially since they could havce done a storyline where Matt wanted to have a kid, but Van didn't (does any woman on a soap every not have baby fever no matter their age) and then Ross wants to have another kid and Blake doesn't. Matt knocks her up and Ross is thrilled that he gets a to raise a kid himself so that adds to Blake lying, etc.

Never understood that either..the BH was a place to introduce new younger characters to the show and audience and Irish Mom Bea would have been perfect (though during the Holly/Ed thing I wanted Mo to move out and take over the BH and tell purse lipped Ed to stuff it.) I do wish they had brought Meta back earlier (someone mentioned brining in MS right after Search ended) and she could have taken over the BH as a favor to Mo while her Mom was apparently endlessly baby sitting Tony and Annabelles kid. I am a fan of Svengoolie and he just did an interview with "horror icons" Joe Dante and Barbara Crampton and she looks GREAT. And yes, Kyle makes more sense then Alan to prop Reva...but the role did not hinge on Malloy (who I never found interesting since the early days of his Edge run) they could have recast him and at that time, Kimmer really did have chemistry with a lot of guys.

I know that actors have egos but really, you can't expect to be the "winner" all the time, your an actor, play it. The actor was a very complicated person, and I always felt he just made Kyle seem..unpleasant, he was always going to loose no matter what.

I was surprised that GL was in cancel territory when Laibson came on board. I do know that it was under SERIOUS consideration in the Summer of 96 when the ratings dropped below AW. Rauch was brought in to save it but the real reason GL limped on is that the Bell soap never saw the light of day. I do like that the writers asked why TPTB let JFP run havoc over GL. But also why McLaiby kept the focus on Buzz and the Coopers for so long leading into the terrible "Save 5th Street" storyline with Deas waving his arms and yelling day in and day out. Why not just get writers in to make GL..GL again instead of going for a costly new production which will be a shot in the dark. GL was a brand name..so fix it. One wise things that JFP did was to refuse to bring back Reva on a permanent basis. But Kim got her fans in a frenzy and I can see why McLaiby would bring her back and have Brent/Marion...as one soap columnist said, "To bang the drum loudly."

That was unfortunately never played during Rauch, who cast her as a soccer mom louder Kim Hughes. This was done to make Annie EVIL, but those kids should have been more attached to Annie, and wondering why they can't see her and why everyone gets weird when Reva and Annie are together. I never liked that sacchraney sweet Marah as she was all MommieAnnie one day and then screeching when Annie approached her. Now if she was a manipulative little witch playing both sides I could get into it. As they got older I thought both kids should be annoyed and embarrassed by Reva and always go to their dad. Kim actually COULD play subtex and the at should have been her enduring sadness that she could not connect to those twoas she would like(which is being the center of attention at all times.)

LOL..okay the only Cooper I liked in the last 20 years was Aubrey Dollar's Marina..after that they made the character a sweet little Mary Sue but the whole family became a Mary Sue. But yea, I did not like Lucy and her quacking voice! Frank was boring but he was a familiar boring! Except when they tried and Frankie D tried his hardest to make Frank a tough smart authority figure cope. Frank was a big dumb sweet guy who should have been tending the diner.

Ha...Lucy and **** were perfect for each other, as they are both the dullest part of their families! Alex is off camera so Van is back at Spaulding while all this is going on and Matt and Lucy whine about their successful driven spouses. Oh, and Ross is working at Spaulding too so Van and Ross....plus, too nutty fan bases (LAM did have one) being incensed would make me so happy! Siblings fighting for what they think is best would be interesting without anyone being the "big bad" AM is pushing for technology and Phillip wants to absorb Lewis or something. AM is ALWAYS going to feel like the lesser to Phillip, and Phillip may resent that AM has a lot of Alan's traits... We have to agree to disagree about Amanda..I found KM dull as dishwater and loved Poser..I know the Madame backstory was all wrong, and she was too young, but with good writing it could overcome that.

I agree, and you have the whole, raised a Spaulding, and one who was not but is a bio one ..AM came back as a teenager, so I would think Hope raised him more Bauers tryish..and he rose to the challenge of being in the Spaulding Thunderdome..loving each other but alway, was trying to dominate, with Amanda taking AM's side (mostly, but not if they interfered with her one self interest) and Alex taking Phillips. Besides Amanda and Alex (and I would tone down the animosity there) everyone loves one another but...they are Spauldings. This interfamily warefare would split AM and Lucy just like it did AM's parents..but for a twist it would be Lucy who would find "solace" with someone else first. Yes there was so rootability in Alan.

That's funny as that is a line from BevAlex, she wanted Phillip, non bio but raised a Spaulding to run the company with Lujack, bio but not raised one. I think a silbing fight over the company would be great with Hearst really being able to hold his own with Phillip. Throw in Amanda as the wild card and it woudl be a refreshing spin..(though Amanda might use Roger, and screw him once in a while, she would not be manipulated by him.)

That would have been great! Van steps in and takes over from an obviously deranged Alan, a depowered Alex, (that drug dealer storyline...our Alex???) and "dead" Phillip. Spaulding would already be in chaos with Alex's arrest, the drugs, and Phillips death,that Van could come in and snatch it our from under them.."It may be named Spaulding, but my father created this company as well, so I am taking it back.") When Kreizman wasnt jacking off over TP/Jonathon he was doing it to BE/Harley..so he made her pres, and the show became a farce.

Oh would the Mattessa's FREAK out! I think with Alex gone it would have been time for Van to step into the Spaulding matriarch role..especailly since she and Amanda were never friends. I get that they need Alan/Annie together so someone could fund her schemes and get her ass out of the psych ward. But I would have had Alan start to get really sick of the psycho Albatros around his neck (its fun to screw over Jeva, but not when it effects his bottom line) and if Van was working at Spaulding, Alan would love her business side and her steadiness and fitness in society (all of Alan's society friends woudl have dropped him if he was dragging Annie to events) and Annie would then see her meal ticket slipping away. I would love crazy Annie to threaten ice queen Vanessa "Dear, I am NOT Reva, so you can take your historonics elsewhere, I have a meeting with a client, you can show yourself out."

I really liked Reva when she was working at the hospital, and then at the Journal and she was buddies with Fletch (the only time I found him tolerable) and interacting with people outside the Lewis family and it wasnt just about her great love..though of course we had Kyle mooning over her. She just was more well rounded and seemed to tone it down with others (which reminds me of a scene she had with PS when he came back..Zimmer is trying her usual tricks but Simon doesn't rise to her usual overacting and she brings it back to down to meet him and its quite good.) A facet of the Annie story could have been Reva trying to find her place again..in her family, with her kids (they wrote them WAY too normal) and I would have the kids leaning towards Annie. And I would do a story (which Kim would not tolerate) of Reva dealing with being an aging woman...you really can blame Kimmer for her on camera OTT and her fanning her fans fire..soaps don't treat anyone over 40 well and while Kim was very attractive still she was not sex on a stick Reva from 1984. When Maeve returned after Van's death, I had wanted an Alan (with a new actor) Van pairing. Knocking ***t out of the ring, Alan is turned on by this elegant woman who does not take his crap and is more then a match when she wants to be ruthless (I would have tossed sighing in love Van out the window when she returned.) They were considering older actresses, but I think they felt that there were so many on the canvas that age already they went with younger which did not work. I love Poser as well and wish she had been brought back as Victoria's daughter, though realize having a white woman play a mixed race character might not go over well...(was Victoria's husband white as well?)

Agreed...they reunited them, had the Annie drama, it ends and they leave town, happy (or as happy as those two could be.) The natural story progression for those two. But no...the Zimmer fans needed more of her, to the detriment of the show. I do wonder if Reva would be viable if they killed Josh off, and for good. She was at her most tolerable when RN left the show.

Yes...its not as if she was his stepmom for long..they shipped him off someplace, and a one nights stand makes Holly guilty, but Ben keeps pursuing her (my rugby mates would see me watching GL and were all hot for MG/Holly, so she could get it from younger guys.) and then Holly, actually getting into it and finding her sexuality and loving it (better then Liv/Holly..sorry, with all respect to MG, I can't see Holly as a lesbian.) I'd love to see Blake shocked and appalled at her Mom's sexual hijinks for once and Holly to tell her to get over it.

Poor Ann Hamilton, an example of JFP taking out on the character (by hiring a bad recast) because she was pissed at the actor. Rozel as Eleni was not as bad as the actress was beautiful and gave "nice" off but was bland and Eleni was underwritten and only Melina gave the characters a zip.. Englund and Simms had great sibling chem...they really did seem like older sister/young brother. A dyanamic totally laost after she left. Those Boardinghouse room sets were never consistent and never looked like they belonged in the same house (though not as bad as Nola/Stalker period when they had her living in room with a galley kitchenette.) That terrace room was left over from the Kobe period..it was the room Beth lived in after she left home to get away from Bradley. I lo love when they are consistent with sets.

I love what soaps think of being a "cad" is dating a lot (I will ignore the "take Marah's virginity thing as that was just...nasty on the writers part") but other characters who do the same are seen as romantic alpha males(nasty Jeffery who was a male Petri dish..I always wanted GL to be the first soap to explore a STD break out with Jeffery at the center,,,but it would have those weird Cole hausfrau fans screaming "Giving me chlamydia Jeffery") If I looked like Ben/Boomer, I woulda screwed my way through that whole town (leaving each person happier then when I met them) Not that it was past Conwest but Boomer/Garret together would have been hot and Holly needed some younger man time to get out of her "Im sorry I was a stalker" phase.

My other victim would have been Buzz, but could you imagine the long..long..death scene they would give Deas...sputtering, spitting, arms a flailing about! And yes, they would have Fletcher come back as ghost, dressed in white with that dumb ass hat, to tell Holly he will always watch over her...YUCCCCK!

I do like that, but I still like Nola, who has been gone for so long, walk into things, believing that Ed was Mr. Husband (she was around for Claire, so at least Ed and Mo had a solid marriage when she left) and try to dig into things without knowing it was still an open wound, which was a totally Nola thing to do, barge in, knock the table over and then try to put it back together. But, she would be the catalyst and Bridget could be the emotional core of the fallout. Ed becomes just another father figure that is a failure..and Chelle feels that something is wrong between Bridget and Ed and does not understand what is going on, etc. Maybe Rick and Bridget become close as he too is sick of Ed's failures while Holly comforts Ed (much to the annoyance of boring Fletch, who is my scenario, is slated with an enounter with Brent/Marion..that's a good idea, Holly is off comforting Ed when Fletcher gets the knife and she is full guilt as we all know she doesnt actaully love him.)

That's why I think they needed to revisit it...Van having to deal with her hidden anger at Ed (she never let him have it) Rick finding out and angry (Mo was the only Mom he knew) and brining up old issues of having an alcholic dad who was not stable...did Bridget know? I would have Ed start to turn to the bottle again..the only person who could really prop him up would be Holly, I would use that as a lead to them being involve again...( I think MG and PS had good friendship chem, but that is okay,) and Lillian being angry that she had to take the blame (I would want a showdown between Lil and Nola where Nola gets to slap her!) Did Roger know? I would love for Roger to throw that in his face, and maybe be the one to deliver the news to Nola..."You know what your brother in law, the good upstanding pillar of town was up to while you were gone?"

This is why Ed was never a viable character, much less as a patriarch, which was the family and the town needed at that time. Not because he screwed up as I like my patriarchs with an edge (look at H.B.) But he never seemed to take responsibility for it, or any remorse. This is why they missed a big opp when Nola returns, in my view I wou ld have her be best selling novelist of adventure/romances, the kind people eat up but are embarrassed to say they love, who comes to town to change her writing style and do maybe an article on Mo (and also our of guilt for not being around for years and intent on "fixing the family" in a weird Nola way) and starts to interview people and sees something strange when people talk about her death. Van of course tells her to just focus on Mos life or forget about it all togehter, which makes Nola more intent then ever to do it. Anyway, she discovers the truth and confronts Lillian but more importantly Ed, leading him to show remorse, guilt and take responsiblity for the whole thing. Then they can do the Ed/Lillan scene at the grave that they did near the end of the show, that some smart writer put was responsible for (and Wheeler actually let air.) Having a patriarch with feet of clay is fine, if they take responsibility for it, and I never saw that with Ed. PS to his credit when he returned seem to play that regret and trying to do right by his family.

It was McTavish..she did not do friendships especially female well. I do have to say, she also almost purposely destroyed the relationships and the extended family that even JFP didn't obliterate...because of Mo, a lot of people were connected..Bridget in one scene at least considered AM her cousin..she doesn't like Lucy at first because of her stealing his car or something. Later, McTavish has Chele call Van, her mom's best friend, Mrs. Chamberlin, as she does her own aunt, Nola. I thought Hayden had it in her to grow the character of Bridget, but McTavish regressed her, being a foil in the Dinah/Hart relationship, and resorting to pathetic scheming like getting Peter to act like he was sick to get Hart to come over. That was not the Bridget that we saw before McTavish, one who was growing up. I still think Bridget would eventually fill a Mo role..after a lot of bumps and turns.

LOL...this has to be the funniest and most accurate description of the men during this period. Agreed, none of the women were dressed (or written true to character..) Reva got it just as bad as the rest as she woudl NEVER want to be dressed as a soccer mom...(I imagine her still holding on to her big hair and shoulder pads from hey day and looking ridiculous) Nola dressed as some drab waitress...ugh.

That was me, and I agree, Nick and Gilly would have been interesting. My story would ave had Roger framed for killing Fletch, Nick would have of course belived it, Gilly who worked with and against Roger, doesn't and they both are at odd with that, and trying to keep the jouranl together as Holly goes off the deep end with guilt .

I love this, and it perfectly captures what GL was and why, thought its ups and downs, I loved it more then ATWT. The Bauers were an immigrant family that made good...and matriarch Bert Bauer was a shrew who grew into the town rock, while her daughter in law (who believe it or not ran away from SF to shack up with someone) grew into that role, an Berts sister in law grew from a troubled woman into that grew into that role, and all the others along the way who had wild sometimes unsavory pasts evolved to support their families and others (H.B. Henry, Ross, and yes, even old Buzzard.) GL was messy, with a big old heart, and Springfield was a place you could be a little weird!

Good God!The gates to Hell have opened! And he had that damn guitar!