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13 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

This is an isolated clip, but overall, Latham wrote terribly for Dru even though she kept her front-burner. 

 

Latham had scenes like Dru breaking into Carmen's closet and madly ripping up her clothes with a pair of scissors, and of course getting physical with Carmen at Newman. She often wrote Dru like a "ghetto woman" stereotype in other parts of that story. Carmen was definitely insensitive and indirect with her animosity a lot of the time though, which was the opposite of Dru and really pushed her buttons. 

 

Can a Latina like Carmen be classed as a 'Karen?"  It's a complicated matter when all characters involved are underrepresented minorities. 

 

I read an old recap or summary mentioning Dru cutting up Carmen's clothes and I thought that was not really what Dru would have done.  The show wrote Phyllis cutting up Sharon's clothes, too. But Phyllis is supposed to be crazy.  Dru isn't. 

Carmen isn't a really a Karen, as you pointed out.  But I was trying to say that Dru being upset at Carmen, and even cutting up the clothes,  Dru getting physical with Carmen --- for those things Carmen wanted Dru imprisoned and the D.A said the best deal he could offer was two years in prison.  Two years in prison is not appropriate.

 

I haven't seen many of that year's episodes, but I've been reading the recaps for that year, and It seems like Carmen was written to be a manipulative character who "preys on married men" said one summary. I don't know. I haven't seen enough clips of her to get what she was really like.   Was Carmen simply being a bad person and trying to get rid of the competition for Neil and didn't care if imprisoning Dru was unjust?   Or was Carmen being a "Karen" in that the writers were using Carmen as someone who thought of Dru as ghetto/dangerous/unsafe and must be arrested?   I can't tell from reading the recaps.

 

 

 

Direct link to above fb video:
https://www.facebook.com/TheYoungandtheRestless/videos/1392131277640398/

 

Youtube link to the same clip, but it might be geo-blocked outside the US:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/FqEoQBAzomI

 

The clip is from the 2006 epi that was rebroadcast today June 24.  Bryton won the 2007 Emmy for it.

 

Devon was talking about Drucilla but...

As I watched today, it felt like a parallel to Victoria Rowell. She's not crazy. She just defends what's right.

 

And even more, this clip feels to me like a parallel to everything that's going on on the world.  Carmen Mesta is being a Karen getting Dru arrested for no reason.   Carmen is afraid. Says Dru started it. etc. And Devon calls her out.

Friday July 3, 2020: Episode #7696
Original US airdate Aug. 15, 2003.

This episode immediately follows #7695 which was rebroadcast on 5/26/2020. 

 

recap (from 8/14/2003 CDN or 8/15/2003 US)
http://tvmegasite.net/updates/yr/2003/yr-08-14-03.htm

 

 

On 6/24/2020 at 9:53 AM, kalbir said:

Global update. Wednesday July 1 Global/Tuesday July 2 CBS - 5929, original air date August 7, 1996. I think this is Paul and Christine's first wedding.

 

 

Recap for August 7, 1996
The episode of Christine and Paul's wedding

 

FYI...
Context to the Christine/Paul wedding reception, to understand why Paul leaves:
Nathan Hastings, Sr. is/was Paul's partner at their private investigation firm. The married couple Nathan and Olivia are split. Nathan and Olivia have been in an ongoing contentious argument over little Nate.

*The recaps and comments of the prior days/weeks indicate that Olivia had been very upset and crying a lot about this situation. Paul had been trying to help Nathan and Olivia come to some sort of truce. Olivia was continually relying on Paul for support, and crying to him.

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The main recap:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs/oFhORE4GqqM/ZonhF0xuAtEJ

Nicknames for anyone unfamiliar:  "Liv" = Olivia.  "Chris" = Christine.

rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs ›
Y & R SPOILER Wed 8/7
(Posted day-ahead on 8/6/96)

Today is *wedding day*!
Most of the show is either scenes getting ready for the wedding, the wedding, the reception.

Gina visits Danny to *help* him on this bad day.  Phyllis and Daniel show up.  Fur flies with Phyllis and Gina.  Gina leaves.  Danny yells at Phyllis.  All of this is her fault anyway.  Phyllis--would you believe me if I said I was sorry?  Danny--would you believe me if I said I don't give a damn?!

Nathan calls Liv. She answers the phone right away.  He says the he and Nate will come home if there are no cops and she agrees to let Nate see Nathan on a regular basis.  He will call back to see if she agrees.  If she doesn't, she may never see Nate again.  Liv calls Paul (at the reception of course) and asks him to come over, she needs him *now* because every time she hears Nathan's voice she goes crazy (her own words and the truth even!).  Of course, being the wonderful person she is, Chris says Paul, no problem if you go.

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Supplemental info on another thread.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs/-j8Nf6yaEyg/q34tysHF6m4J
Here is the info, with personal opinions removed:
Before the wedding, Christine is standing in front of a full length mirror, in a plain white bathrobe. Nina walks up behind her and says "I've never seen a more beautiful bride."

And more info from yet another thread

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs/Wje3xujLt4E/vFrIyS9YiYkJ
Victor gives Christine away.

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Supplemental recap to same episode:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs/oFhORE4GqqM/erSurZQHUu4J

The other twist in today's story is that while Chris was getting dressed for the wedding, she checked her 'phone messages (yeah right!) and one of the lawyers for Newman Enterprises told her she was needed IMMEDIATELY because one of the deals she was working on was going sour and only she (of course) could get it back on track (pardon the mixed metaphor).  She told him that it wasn't possible - she was busy getting married in 15 minutes.

SO when Paul tells her about Liv and Nathan, Chris tells him about the legal problems; and they decide that being the responsible people they are, they should postpone the honeymoon and go off separately to save the world.  It appears that Chris has to go to Denver to do whatever.  But Paul and Chris decide they won't tell anyone what they're doing to avoid any speculation.

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info from spoilers: Wedding guests and wedding venue, and more:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs/lko6V6FjjH8/giMcNzihJ7kJ
posted 7/26/96
Spoiler: Miles and Margaret Dugan (Parley Baer & Maxine Stuart), remember Rainbow Gardens? return for Paul and Christine's wedding on August 7.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs/nk0YFT-Xuig/fM9O-Ht9ZyEJ
Posted 8/4/96
Red letter day: Wednesday August 7, Chris will happily marry Paul in a country chapel on Y&R.

 

END

 

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Posting the twitter, instagram, and facebook versions of the same clip because it's awesome!

Question about Vivica A. Fox's character Stephanie Simmons.   In that Dec 94 vid, she is dressed like Olivia and appears to be a doctor. But when I google the character, it seems she was a nurse. 

Wed. July 1, 2020 US (Tues. June 30, 2020 CDN)
#5520, December 29, 1994
 

A few minutes before Christine and Paul are about to marry each other, an unknown car runs them down.
(Of course we know now this was Phyllis).

 

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This is a new recap of watching an old 1994 video. 
Of course some of the scenes will be omitted in the 2020 rebroadcast, in order to allow for commercials.

 

December 29, 1994

 

Before the wedding:

 

At Lauren's office, Brad would like to know how Lauren feels about Paul and Christine's wedding, and Lauren replies that Paul is her friend and she just wants Paul to be happy. Brad invites Lauren to New Year's Eve later that week, and she accepts.

 

Danny has decided to leave Genoa City and spend some time in New York for a while, because he feels that it would be too painful to be around Christine and Paul once they are newlyweds. Danny knows that Katherine is grieving Rex who died a few weeks earlier, so Danny invites Katherine to come to New York with him but she declines. Danny goes over to Phyllis' apartment to tell her he is leaving town, but Phyllis is not there. The nanny Joani gives little Daniel to Danny and she leaves. Danny waits for Phyllis, unaware of what Phyllis is up to.

 

Paul and Christine are in Paul's office. They're going to get married tonight. They're very happy. They say goodbye to Lynne and leave. Alone, Lynne sheds a tear but says to herself that she knows Paul will be happy and that's what matters.

 

Everyone except the bride and groom are at the wedding venue. Matron of honor is Nina, and bridesmaids are Lynne and Lauren. The three of them are in identical black dresses. Ryan is there as Nina's husband. Mary Williams is there. No bride and groom. Everyone waits, then makes phonecalls, but the bride and groom cannot be found.

 

Meanwhile, outside Paul's office, a mysterious driver in a blue car speeds up and intentionally hits Christine and Paul. Y&R shows the license plate number but not Phyllis' face. The car speeds off, leaving Paul and Christine lying in the road.

 

 

Drucilla/Neil/Malcolm/Olivia/Stephanie

Drucilla and Neil argue about New Year's Eve. Neil tells Dru that (without consulting her first), Neil had invited people over for New Year's Eve. But Dru would prefer to be alone with Neil, so Neil agrees to cancel the party. Meanwhile, Malcolm is unaware that the New Year's Eve party will be cancelled, and Malcolm tells Olivia about the party. Malcolm asks Stephanie Simmons to come to Neil and Dru's New Year's Eve party as his date, but Stephanie feels she is too busy. Olivia tries to play matchmaker between Malcolm and Stephanie.
(Stephanie Simmons is played by Vivica A. Fox)

 

Luan/Jack/MariJo/Rick/Blade/Ashley

Background: Ashley's husband Blade has a supposedly-dead twin Rick, who is secretly in Genoa City. Mari Jo Mason (aka Marilyn) knew both twins in the past and she recognizes Rick. Ashley and Blade don't know that Rick is alive. Jack had been engaged to Mari Jo Mason. However he recently reconnected with his longlost first love, local restaurateur Luan from Vietnam, and her children Keemo and Mai. Jack has invited Luan to spend a week with him in the Virgin Islands, which will happen soon. Mari Jo kept the engagement ring and still wants to marry Jack.

This episode: Luan's daughter Mai tells Luan she is excited about her mother's coming island trip with Jack. Jack tells Ashley that he is buying an island resort wardrobe for Luan. Ashley mentions to Jack that it's romantic that Luan and Jack share a son. Mari Jo confides in Rick, Rick encourages Mari Jo to go after Jack, and Mari Jo decides to plot.
 

(Luan and Mai appeared in this episode, but Keemo was not in this particular episode. Keemo had been appearing regularly for a few months. In the Dec 29, 1994 broadcast, Ashley referred to the fact that Jack and Luan have a son. but Ashley didn't say Keemo's name.).

 

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I found the ORIGINAL recap from 1994!

 

December 29, 1994. Original recap from 1994.

 

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs/rj_sKsXx3Ts/j9qMW22OY70J 

(It took a while to find it because it was in the newly-created newsgroup "rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs" which had just split off from the old "rec.arts.tv.soaps".)

 

This recap is the same as originally posted with these minor changes:

I omitted the recapper's personal dislikes and and likes.

I corrected the spelling of character names. 
Changed from Kathryn to Katherine.

Changed from Mary Jo to Mari Jo.

Changed from Joanie to Joani.

Changed from Lynn to Lynne.
Changed from Laun to Luan.
(This is *not* a critique of the recapper. There was no google in 1994 to look up spelling, and some days the credits didn't air. The recapper did a great job.).

 

rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs
Y&R: Update for 12-29-94
(Posted 12/30/94)

Update for the Young and the Restless

 

 

Jabot Laboratory

 

Ashley is busy mixing up some no doubt incredible potion that will be a number one best seller as hand cream, body lotion, perfume, or makeup as Jack walks in. Jack is excited about his upcoming trip to the Caribbean with Luan. He'll be gone for a whole week!!! Seven whole days of basking in the sun -- no phones -- no faxes. Jack is still amazed, apparently Ashley is too, that he and Luan found each other after 20 (count 'em, 20!!) years. Ashley wants to plug Luan and tries to bring up Mari Jo, but Jack doesn't want to hear it. Jack, instead, brings up Ashley's favorite subject, Blade. Ashley says that Blade is trying, but as far as she's concerned, no trust = no relationship.

 

 

Nina and Ryan's Apartment

 

Nina is all dressed up and ready for Cricket and Paul's wedding. She is wearing a black velvety short dress and Ryan is in what looks like a tuxedo shirt (pants too, I suppose but couldn't tell for sure). Ryan thinks that Cricket (and he called her Cricket, not Chris) will be upset because Nina looks soooooo good in her dress. Nina, by the way, is the Matron of Honor (don't know if we knew this or not). Ryan and Nina remember their wedding. Nina says she was nervous, but Ryan says he wasn't. He says, "I figure once you're at the altar you'd better have made up your mind." He wonders if Cricket is nervous. Nina says no.

 

 

Lauren's Office

 

Lauren is on the phone wondering about the whereabouts of some important documents. She has a wedding to go to soon so she wants them to messenger them to her home if she's not at the office. Brad enters with something that looks suspiciously like a Christmas present. Lauren wonders if it is an early New Year's present or an extremely late Christmas present. She gives Brad some trouble suggesting that she obviously wasn't on his priority Christmas list. She gives Brad trouble about how late the gift is. Brad tells her she doesn't have time to argue, she has somewhere to go. She says she's got a wedding to go to -- she's a bridesmaid. Brad wonders who is getting married. Lauren seems surprised that Brad doesn't know (like Paul would put Brad on the guest list!!). Lauren tells him its Paul Williams and Christine Blair (both first and last names so poor little Brad won't get confused). Brad wants to know how Lauren feels about the wedding. Vapid stare from Lauren.

 

 

Paul's Office

 

Cricket is finishing some documents for Paul. She tells him all he has to do is sign and have Lynn notarize it. Paul says it will be his last official act of the year -- Cricket says it will be his last official act as a single man. Something is said about shackles, ball and chain, no more singles bars, blind dates, reading the personals. Paul wonders what he'll do for fun. Cricket says he won't have trouble finding fun things to do -- she plans to distract him like he's never been distracted. They kiss. Lynn walks in and asks if they're ready for her, sees them kissing and says "Guess not."

 

 

Roll Credits

 

 

Neil and Drucilla's Apartment

 

Neil and Drucilla are on the couch all cuddled up reminiscing about Christmas and how great it was. Neil says it was all because of Drucilla and the baby. Neil made her holiday too. They look forward to New Years. They discover they've both got plans in mind for New Year's Eve. Neil thinks their plans will be the same. Neil wants to have the "gang" i.e., Nathan, Olivia, Malcolm, over to celebrate. Drucilla had something else in mind -- she tells Neil that he was wrong when he thought she had the same plan in mind.

 

 

Mari Jo's Office

 

Rick, or is it Blade, interrupts Mari Jo daydreaming -- interrupts her with kisses on the neck, must be Rick. Mari Jo gets mad because Rick doesn't seem to understand yet that it is dangerous for him to come a callin'. She gets up to close her office door as Rick asks how she knew he wasn't Blade. You kissed me on the neck, moron (Blade would prefer to slit it, as we all know). Rick wants to know how she is. Well, she's lousy (remember she just found out about the little trip Jack is planning with Luan). She says all of her plans blew up in her face. Rick tells her to "pour your heart out to me baby" as he snuggles her from behind.

 

 

Luan's Apartment

 

Luan and Mai discuss Luan's upcoming trip. Mai tells her some about the Caribbean. Mai says she's seen pictures -- it's beautiful. Luan says "sounds very interesting" (although she doesn't sound very interested). "Interesting?" Mai is incredulous. She reminds Luan that this could be the trip of a lifetime. Mai is excited for Luan but wonders that Luan doesn't seem too excited. Luan says she is excited in her own way. Mai says the trip really sounds like a honeymoon to her. Vapid stare from Luan.

 

 

Jabot Laboratory

 

Jack wants to know what Ashley wants from Blade. Ashley wants Blade to tell her the truth. Jack decides he better stay out of it. Ashley turns the conversation back to Jack. She wants to know if he's all set for his trip. Jack is on his way to see Lauren Fenmore. He's asked her to help him put together a wardrobe for Luan for the trip. Ashley says Jack is sweet and Luan will love it. Jack talks about how Luan has been solidly focused on building a restaurant all these years. He thinks she's probably never been on a vacation. Jack prepares to leave. He's got a million things to do (guess he wasn't invited to the wedding either). Ashley wishes him a great trip. Jack says he is nervous and excited.

 

 

Nina and Ryan's Apartment

 

Ryan questions Nina about Cricket. They talk about how Cricket thought she and Danny were the perfect pair. Ryan reminds Nina that all that was Danny's fault. Nina says Cricket understands that but can't help wondering "as a woman" if she failed some way -- "as a woman." Nina tells Ryan to forget it, he wouldn't understand. Ryan asks if Nina knows where Paul and Cricket are going on their honeymoon. Nina doesn't know. Ryan talks about the honeymoon he promised Nina. She says it's okay that they haven't had their honeymoon. She has school, after all, and he is busy at work. Ryan says they should make time for a honeymoon. Nina agrees. Nina brings up their wedding again about how Ryan did the right thing because she was pregnant. Ryan admonishes her that there was more to it than that. Nina seeks more reassurance (anyone surprised?). Ryan says "it was the best thing that ever happened to me." Nina is delighted. Blah, blah, blah, they go on… kissing.

 

 

Lauren's Office

 

Lauren wonders why she should care that Paul is marrying Cricket. Brad reminds Lauren that she was married to Paul once. Lauren says she and Paul are close friends and the Cricket will make him very happy -- they're very compatible. Brad gives Lauren a look. Lauren insists she's thrilled for Paul. Brad thought Cricket and Danny would get back together. Lauren says Danny is looking elsewhere these days. Brad suggests Danny is looking Lauren's direction. Lauren says you never know and decides that Brad is jealous. Brad says that Lauren hears what she wants to hear and calls her "cupcake". Brad gets down to the real reason for his visit. He asks Lauren out for New Year's Eve. Lauren looks coy (I suppose). Brad asks if Lauren thinks he's been taking her for granted again. Brad also says that it's just an invitation, she doesn't have to accept, but she does. Seems her plans changed. She was supposed to be out of town. But now, she'll be with Brad. Lauren prepares to take off for the wedding (what happened to her meeting with Jack???). Brad tells Lauren to wish Paul well. Lauren thanks him for the late Christmas present. They kiss, Brad leaves.

 

 

Neil and Drucilla's Apartment

 

Neil asks what Drucilla wanted to do for New Year's Eve. Dru wanted to stay in with just Neil. Neil wants a party. He begs. Dru says it'll be the last chance for them to spend New Year's Eve alone (I guess, they've never heard of sending the kid off to Olivia and Nathan) -- what with the baby on the way. Neil admits to Dru that it would be fun, but, you see, he's already invited everyone. Dru is mad and she tells Neil that she doesn't like it that he planned it without consulting her.

 

 

The Chancellor Mansion

 

Danny has come to visit. Katherine hopes he's not worried about her. He says no, he just wanted to see how she was holding up. Danny is amazed that Katherine is doing so well. He tells Katherine that he came to tell her he's going to New York. Katherine wants to know why. He won't tell her. He asks her to come along. Katherine is stunned.

 

 

Paul's Office

 

Lynn gets Paul and Cricket's attention -- remember they are kissing. She is there to notarize the papers. Cricket asks Lynn if everything is ready. Lynn assures Cricket that everything is in place. Cricket says it looks like all she has to do is finish packing. "Finish packing!!!! You haven't finished packing?!?!?!?!" Paul exclaims. Lynn asks Cricket if she knows where they are honeymooning. Cricket doesn't know. Paul tells Cricket to sign the document. "This will be the second to last time I sign my name Christine Blair." Lynn looks upset.

 

 

Outside the building where Paul's office is

 

We see cars covered with a light dusting of snow -- except for the black, idling, DWL-5R8 license plate car. Zoom in on the exhaust pipe -- exhaust coming out.
[note from 2020: License plate was actually DLW-5R8]

 

 

Luan's Apartment

 

Mai asks Luan if she doesn't agree that Jack intended this as a honeymoon. Luan says she doesn't think about such things. Mai insists and describes what they will do. It will be the most romantic time of Luan's life. Luan is pleased with the descriptions and Mai's enthusiasm. Luan says that it is best to wait to see what happens. Too much anticipation can lessen one's enjoyment of the event. Luan sends Mai back to work. Mai wants Luan to enjoy this. Luan is overwhelmed by the thought of the trip but promises Mai she will enjoy it. They hug.

 

 

Mari Jo's Office

 

Mari Jo admits to Rick that Jack is not under her control, that things have gone wrong. She reminds him of the ski trip she planned? She tells Rick the "Vietnamese Woman" is taking priority right now. How, Rick wonders. Mari Jo tells him of Jack and Luan's upcoming Christmas gift trip to the Caribbean. Rick is astounded -- "even though you're wearing his engagement ring?" and Mari Jo tells Rick that Jack doesn't want it back. Mari Jo is afraid that Jack is falling in love with Luan all over again. Mari Jo is depressed. She finally meets someone she really cares about. Rick wonders about where he fit in, back in her past. Mari Jo is serious. Jack is everything she admires -- smart, funny, kind, and he cares for her, or at least he did. Mari Jo insists that if it hadn't been for Luan, she and Jack would be married by now. She doesn't know what to do. She doesn't want to lose Jack. She doesn't want to be pushy, doesn't want to not push. What to do?? What to do?? Rick tells her to not quit. If she wants him bad enough, go for it. Mari Jo looks unconvinced.

 

 

Neil and Drucilla's Apartment

 

Neil tries to apologize. Dru says not good enough. She wants to know who he invited. Well, let's see, there's Malcolm, Olivia -- Dru still doesn't want a party. Neil says he'll call it off if that's what she wants. Dru is pleased. She makes Neil promise he won't be mad. They kiss.

 

 

Olivia's Office

 

Malcolm shows up. He's looking for Stephanie. Malcolm admits he's crazy about her, but she's a tough woman to deal with. Malcolm says Stephanie better be careful or someday his ship just might set sail. Malcolm wants to invite Stephanie to Neil's for New Year's Eve. Stephanie walks in. She is surprised to see him. He says he's been looking for her and invites her for New Year's Eve. She says no -- he makes it clear she'd be his date when she says she wasn't invited to Neil's. Olivia steps in and asks Malcolm to go get her some coffee. He goes. Olivia tries to help Malcolm's cause. Stephanie insists that medicine comes first with her, not dating. Olivia tells her to reconsider, but all Stephanie wants to do is get Olivia's opinion on a patient.

 

 

Paul's Office

 

Cricket signs, and reminds one and all that the next document she'll be signing is her marriage certificate. She prepares to leave. Lynn asks Cricket if she needs a lift. Paul says he'll take her (I want to know how she got there in the first place), he's got no last-minute details to see to. Paul thanks Lynn for all the extra work she's done in the last week. Lynn tells Paul good-bye, gets weepy-eyed and she and Paul hug. Paul and Cricket leave, Lynn cries.

 

 

Mari Jo's Office

 

Rick suggests Mari Jo is getting soft in her old age -- in the old days, she'd never have given up. Mari Jo agrees that she won't give up and thanks Rick for the pep talk. Mari Jo asks Rick, again, why he is in Genoa City. Rick won't tell and leaves wishing Mari Jo luck. They kiss.

 

 

Olivia's Office

 

Malcolm returns with coffee. Olivia is alone. Malcolm says he got the message -- he'll leave Stephanie alone. He goes on and on and on about not taking that crap -- he'll go find someone else. Olivia interrupts his tirade -- "You have a date." Malcolm, "Say, What?" Olivia got Stephanie to agree to go with Malcolm on New Year's Eve.

 

 

The Chancellor Mansion

 

Katherine can't imagine going to New York with Danny. Katherine won't go. Katherine wants to know if Danny is going back east for good. Danny doesn't know, he just wants to leave for a while. He'll keep in touch. Katherine asks another question -- are you running away -- what Rex would want to know. Danny says it's just too hard for him to be around, what with Cricket getting married and all. Going away will be good for him. Katherine comforts him and wishes him luck. They hug. Katherine is teary-eyed as they say good-bye. Danny leaves.

 

 

Luan's Apartment

 

Mai is sweeping the floor when Mari Jo shows up. Mari Jo asks about Christmas. Mari Jo asks for Luan. She wants to wish her a Happy New Year. Mai tells Mari Jo that Luan is in the restaurant. Mari Jo didn't see her. Mai goes to look in the kitchen. Mari Jo mutters she is very anxious to give her my best.

 

 

Phyllis' Apartment (which looks like a makeover of Nina's old place)

 

Joani (the nanny) is there and lets Danny in. Danny wants to see Phyllis. She isn't there and Joani doesn't know where she went or when she will be back. Danny decides to wait.

 

 

Outside Paul's Office

 

Cricket and Paul are walking on the sidewalk. They stop to hug and talk about the vows they are about to take. They kiss. Cricket is still trying to find out where they're going on their honeymoon. Paul won't tell. They stop to kiss again.

 

They walk in the street instead of on the sidewalk. Zoom in on a bright red tail light!!! Ominous music begins.

 

Paul realizes he left something in the office and gives Cricket the car keys (I still want to know how she got to the office in the first place). He tells her to get in the car and turn on the heater -- she's cold -- and he'll be right back. Cricket starts across the street. A car tire squeals. Paul looks. We see the car -- no headlights, just barely the top of someone's head is seen over the steering wheel. The lights come on. Cricket is blinded in white lights. Paul is yelling, "Chriiiiiiiiiiisssss!!!!" He runs to save her. He is ineptly unable to get Cricket out of the way and they are both hit and fall to the pavement on opposite sides of the speeding car. The car disappears and Cricket and Paul are lying on the pavement as passersby come up -- someone yells "Call 911."

 

 

END

I have watched only a few clips recently of Kurt and of the twins Blade/Rick - I hadn't seen those characters before, or if I did, I had forgotten them. I agree that they are uninteresting.

 

I've watched a lot of old clips in the past two months that happened to contain Cole.  Good lord I find Cole boring! I literally doze off watching him.  The actor is fine looking, but the scenes I've watched have very little passion.  What on earth did firecracker Victoria (Heather Tom's version) ever see in Cole?

Mon July 29, 2020 is 9/21/1994.

Still trying to figure out what happens in that episode.

Paul proposed to Christine at the end of the 9/20/94 epi --

when Paul simply put an engagement ring on her finger and then said will you marry me. But she hadn't expected it, and she had not yet said yes or no when the epi ended. 

*Speculation* ... 9/21/94 is a continuation of the 9/20/94 proposal scene and now she says yes.

I don't know what happens 9/22/94.
On 9/23/94, Christine drops by Nina's to show her the engagement ring.

On "rec.arts.tv.soaps" in 1994, someone was posting highlights of the "Pure Soap" show ("Pure Soap" appeared on the "E" network daily and it discussed the soaps).
I compared the Y&R scenes described on Pure Soap, with actual recaps and playlists of Y&R. 
"Pure Soap" would tell what happened on Y&R the day before.
Here is the relevant post:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.tv.soaps/cnnS-clmk3c/TYBG7ePDwdcJ
rec.arts.tv.soaps
PS: Thursday (Sept. 22) -- Pure Soap highlights
Posted 9/23/94
PURE SOAP highlights for Thursday -- 22-SEP-1994
UPDATES:
Y&R.  Nina has never felt too comfortable around her husband Ryan's ex-wife.  But now, courtesy of Victoria's centerfold, she knows more about her rival than she ever wanted to.
[Insert clip of Nina and someone? (her mother (?)) talking about the centerfold.  Nina says Victoria's the last person on earth she would've expected to appear in such a magazine.]

--
^ That 9/22/94 episode of Pure Soap described what happened on Y&R 9/21/94.

 

So therefore these two things *probably* happen on 9/21/94:
Christine accepts Paul's marriage proposal.  Victoria had recently appeared as a nude centerfold in a magazine, and now Nina comments to someone that Nina would not have expected Victoria to do that.

21 minutes ago, Dylan said:

https://t.co/SgLCFp428b?amp=1 what do you guys want for the last classic weeks in a month?

 

Big soapy reveals.

 

Nov 25, 1991 is amazing.  Paul arrives in the middle of Dina and John's wedding with info that Jill hired Paul to research, and Paul just found in Switzerland -- info that Dina has been lying.  A lot happens and you don't need prior epis to understand.  Dina has been WAY over the top lying. She was not in a secluded Swiss sanitarium for two years recovering from tuberculosis. She was partying all over Europe with rich playboys and came back to Genoa City for John because she ran out of money.  I watched recently and it's an awesome epi.

Edit to add: It concludes the investigation begun in the classic epi being rebroadcast June 25, 2020.  And it concludes the whole arc Oct-Nov 91 arc of Masquerade Ball, Traci worrying about miscarrying, Traci getting married, and the one airing this week.

 

Reveals like that.  What soaps are great at.

 

Danny revealing that he had secret other simultaneous paternity test done and he now knows Phyllis has been lying for three years (that one sounds good on paper but I haven't seen it in decades so I don't remember how it looks).  It follows up on the epi of Olivia/Malcolm wedding where Phyllis was doing something with Brian (they edited it out of the rebroadcast that she was trying to fix the paternity test).

9 minutes ago, janea4old said:

from Global:
US Tuesday June 30, 2020 (CDN Mon June 30, 2020)

#5509, original US airdate Wed Dec 14, 1994.

 

My typo.  It should say:
US Tuesday June 30, 2020 (CDN Mon June 29, 2020)

from Global:
US Tuesday June 30, 2020 (CDN Mon June 29, 2020)

#5509, original US airdate Wed Dec 14, 1994.

 

I found a recap! finally!

 

NOTE: The reason "An American Custom" is capitalized by the recapper is because the recapper was referring to the fact in the recent episodes' dialog, characters *frequently* mention that Luan and Keemo are learning American customs. They were saying it in Sept 1994 episodes, and here it is December 1994 and it's still written in the dialog.

 

Here is the recap as written. I fixed the spelling of "Luan" which the recapper could not have googled in 1994.

(I omitted the recapper's personal dislikes/likes).

 

rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs/AaYGePRwoE0/TfYhfoPHmtQJ

 

Y&R Wednesday 12/14 Update (fwd)

Posted 12/19/94

Here's what happened on Wednesday.  It was great!

 

Abbott Home
Jill and John Silva are discussing the Jabot Spa offer.  While John thinks it's too good to be true, Jill maintains that it's John's way of admitting arterial defeat, with the added bonus of getting her out of his hair.  They leave the house, but John S. has to file some documents at the courthouse before he can meet Jill.  He warns her not to sign on the dotted line until he sees the contract.

 

Jahhhbot
John Abbot and Jack are very pleased with their soon-to-be-coup.  John didn't think it would be so easy, but Jack reminds him that they are appealing to Jill's most primal urges:  status, glamour and money. 

 

Ranch
Nikki is needling Victor about his paying for Sharon's Mom's surgery.  She is adamant that Victor keep this a secret from Nicholas for fear that he would interpret Victor's deed as a stamp of approval.  Victor notes that he was quite impressed with Sharon (which earns him a "Men!" from Nikki).  Nikki remarks that sometimes smart men can be so dumb.

 

Hospital Room
Sharon is packing up her Mom's stuff, remarking that it is good to be going home.  Doris agrees, adding that she could have kissed the doctor when he told her she was released.  Sharon teases her mother, suggesting that the doctor might be single.  They continue to exchange smiles and pleasantries (no kidding, I mean really!)

 

[Roll Theme]

 

Cricket's Pad
Cricket is digging in her purse.  Knock at the door - while Christine thinks it might be Lynne, unfortunately it's Paul.  Cricket reminds Paul that he's not welcome at her bridal shower, and he offers to hide in the closet (didn't know he had it in him!) She asks whether his Mother is coming.  He doesn't think so.

 

Jahhhhbot
Jack and John are hopeful.  They believe they're the best influence on Billy.  Jill arrives.  They quickly get serious.  She's anxious to sign, and is beaming.

 

Ranch
Victor reminds Nikki of her roots -- she was once very much like Sharon, quite interested in wealth.  Nikki balks at this.  They agree not to agree, and Victor goes to leave.  Nikki calls him back, and invites Victor and Hope to a special family Christmas Dinner.  Victor grumbles and softens.  He would really like to be there.

 

Cricket's Apartment
Nina, Olivia, Gina and Lynne arrive with the decorations.  Christine is gone to work.  They've got decorations, food, gifts, etc..  The girls giggle at the fact that Cricket thinks it's only going to be a lingerie party.  They hope that Mary Williams isn't coming, 'cause this is gonna be a triple-X party.  They set about decorating.

 

Jahhhhhbot
Jill explains that John Silva is on his way.  John and Jack explain the terms of the contract.  Jill is taking the bait.  She asks if she can look the contract over.  Poker faces watch her read.

 

Cricket's
Drucilla, Lauren and Luan arrive.  The place is all decorated with balloons (purple, green, yellow, pink, red).  Luan hasn't ever been to a lingerie shower.  They explain that it's (you guessed it) An American Custom.  Lauren asks whether Mary is expected.  They all say no, and a general sigh of relief is expressed all around.

 

Ranch
Victor asks whether Victoria and Nick would like anything special for Christmas.  Nikki brings up the Collins thing again.  She compliments Victor on his compassion, but pleads with him not to tell Nick.

 

Sharon's Home
The place has all been decorated.  Doris thanks her for preparing the place for her arrival.  Sharon remarks that some good came out of all the bad things that have happened, since Doris got the surgery she needed.   Sharon vows to repay Victor somehow, someway.  Doris remarks that it was very nice of Nick to bring flowers, and Sharon agrees that he's really a nice guy.

 

Tacky Room
Victor goes to the door, and it's opened by Nicholas.  Victor wants to talk to him.

 

Jahhhhbot
Jack and John A. point out that the offer represents a substantial salary increase over her present one, and there are ample opportunities for her housing.  Her responsibilities will be enormous, and if this is successful, they will open more spas in the vacation hot spots and Europe.  Jill is thrilled.  Jack produces a pen.

 

Party Central
Cricket arrives.  Gina brings snacks, Luan pops the cork on a bottle of champagne.  Drucilla refuses champagne, and everyone asks if she's pregnant.  Dru finally admits that she's "got one in the oven".  They make a toast.  Nina:  "To my best friend in the whole wide world, who will soon have the best underwear."   The all laugh and drink to that.

 

The camera turns to the hallway outside the door.  A headless body emerges from the elevator, holding a large, pink-wrapped box.  Sheeee's Heeeerrrre!

 

Tacky Room
Victor stopped by to see how things were going for Nick.  He asks about school, social life.  Victor asks about Amy.  Nick tells him he likes Amy a lot, but it's Sharon Collins he'd prefer to be with.

 

(commercial)

 

They sit down.  Victor tells Nick that every man at some time in his life experiences rejection.  Victor encourages Nick not to give up.  Nick tells him it's of no use, and relates the hospital scene, where Sharon gives him a cold shoulder.

 

Bridal Shower
Cricket is holding a blue satin bra and panties thing up to herself, with a devilish grin.  It's from Gina.  Mary rings the doorbell.  Nina is unpleasantly surprised and allows Mary to enter.  Meanwhile, Cricket is unwrapping a red lace bra.  The girls ask her whether she's going to model it, but Cricket says she'll save it for Paul.  Mary overhears this and screws up her face and lips.

 

 

Jahhhhbot

Jill takes another read.  The pressure's on, but Jill wants to wait.  She thanks them for the wonderful opportunity and their faith in her.  She looks at her watch.  She sees that the contract is very clear, and doesn't see anything that John Silva would question.  She signs.  John signs, Jill beams and takes her copy.  She thanks them and leaves.

 

Outside the office door, Jill smiles and struts away.  Back inside the office, John and Jack high-five.

 

 

Shower

 

Gina is making Cricket's hat (out of the ribbons - glad to see someone else gets an ugly hat!).  Meanwhile, back at the doorway, Nina is asking Mary if she's sure she wants to be there.  Mary asks whether she's making them feel uncomfortable, and Nina tells her that her concern is just the opposite.

 

Meanwhile, Cricket opens Luan's gift.  It's a purple see-through lace teddy thing with a skirt bottom.  She loves it, and (you guessed it) compliments Luan on catching on to American Customs so easily.  She loves the purple thing so much that she leaps up from the couch and swings around to show everyone.  As she looks through the lacy underthing, she spies Mary's sourpuss and mutters "oh-oh".  Nina announces Mary's arrival.

 

On cue, Mary hugs Lynne, and introduces herself.  Many uncomfortable looks all around and Nina suggests that Cricket open Mary's gift next.  Great idea.  Nina whispers to Lynne that it's probably a chastity belt (LOL).

And..... Guess What!

It's a toaster!  Mrs. Williams points out that it heats up in less than 30 seconds (collective "Oh!" from the group, and many smiles).  Mary apologizes for being late and encourages Chris to continue unwrapping.  Mary asks whether Lauren is there.

 

Nina looks nervously up the stairs and all eyes turn to see Lauren modelling a hot white peignoir set with garters and stockings.  She announces her arrival by describing how perfect it will be to keep Cricket comfy 'til she's between the sheets with Paul.  Lauren removes her robe as she descends the stairs, to reveal a short nightie.  When she reaches the bottom of the stairs, she removes the nightie to reveal a white teddy, just in time to notice Mary.  She whips the nightie back on and runs back up the stairs!

 

Gina flies in with a tray of desserts, but Mary's seen enough.  Cricket begs her to stay for tea and dessert.

 

In the background, Dru and Nina giggle at their gifts, which they didn't let Cricket open in Mary's presence.  Dru's is a black leather bra with matching garter, and Nina's is edible panties -- in seven different flavours.  They go into fits of laughter at the thought of Mary's face when Cricket would have opened the gifts.

 

Tacky Room
Nick is discouraged, but Victor isn't so sure he should be.  Victor decides not to tell Nick about paying for the surgery right yet.

 

Ranch
Nikki dials the phone.  Amy answers the other end.  Nikki invites Amy over for Christmas Dinner or to visit sometime during the day.  Amy thinks her for the invite and beams.  She'll check with her Mom.

 

Tacky Room
Nick thanks Victor for being interested.  They bond a little more.  Nick leaves.

Cricket's Place
She's alone, when Paul comes a-knockin'.  He says he's the panty police.  Cricket asks if she's under arrest.  They smooch.  He wants a complete report.  Cricket says there's not much to report:  it was your typical lingerie ORgy (she likes the word a lot and gives it special emphasis).  She adds that unfortunately the naked men didn't show up.  Paul offers to oblige.  He asks if he can see any of the goodies, but Cricket won't let him until they're married.  He asks whether his Mom showed up, and Cricket tells him that they are the proud new owners of a toaster:  but not just any toaster - it's a four-slicer, that heats up in under 30 seconds!  Paul says he's got that beat by 20 seconds!

 

Jahhhhbot
John thanks Jack profusely.  John Silva calls from the stock Y&R phone booth.  He's been involved in a minor traffic accident, and he will be delayed.  John Abbott tells him not to hurry:  the deed's done.  John Silva is really p-ssed off.  John and Jack are really pleased with themselves.

 

Collins'
Doorbell rings and Sharon opens the door to find a vase of flowers in the hallway by their door.  The flowers are from Nicholas.  Doris remarks that Nick is a thoughtful boy, and that it was a lovely thing to do.  Sharon holds the card to her heart and smiles.  Nicholas watches from outside the window, with a smile that could light up all of Genoa City.

 

The end.

 

On 6/19/2020 at 9:23 PM, DaytimeFan said:

it's really good - be sure to watch the scenes with Victor, Nikki, Katherine, and Cora...now THAT is some amazing acting from Dorothy McGuire who played Victor's mother. 

 

Yeah Dorothy McGuire was awesome.
I just looked her up. wow.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothy_McGuire

On 6/22/2020 at 9:33 AM, Soapsuds said:

Danny and Cricket are dumb and dumber. Instead of calling 911 they are talking to each other  and figuring out what happened...

 

I know right? This aired 36 years ago, but still I'm yelling at the TV "Call 911"

 

Why was there no PSA for suicide phone hotlines and online crisis support chatrooms? Even if the original airing didn't have one, why didn't CBS add one in?  Traci talking about all the very real feelings of worthlessness that people can experience -- they should have put a PSA for a crisis hotline.  Not everyone has a person available to rescue them with an insta-marriage.

It was especially jarring to see 2020 Beth Maitland cheerily closing the show saying how nice it was to air the old epi, or something like that. It would have been perfect for her to do a PSA there.

 

Tim Sullivan talking with Stephanie Williams' character Amy Lewis, he said Amy was Traci's best friend.  I didn't know that.

from rec.arts.tv.soaps and rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs

 

(exclamation points are from the poster)

 

Y&R:Sneak Peeks/Spoilers Dec wk 3 !!!

Posted 12/6/94

 

Spoilers!

 

1/ Nick finds out about Doris' operation accidentally and wonders why he wasn't told!

 

2/ When Amy tells him she heard Victor paid for the operation and that Matt told her this, Nick calls Matt a liar!

 

3/ Cricket and Phyllis face off at Rex's funeral!

 

4/ Kay breaks down in Danny's embrace!

 

5/ Victor and Victoria wonder why Nikki doesn't like Sharon!

 

6/ Blade wonders about Ashley's mental state!

 

7/ Rick hides in Marilyn's closet listening to a conversation between Blade and Marilyn.

 

8/ Phyllis goes the lingerie route to impress Danny but gets no response!

 

9/ Paul and Phyllis have the same agenda - keep Christine and Danny apart!

 

10/ Jack weighs his future concerning Luan!

 

11/ Despite Dru's best efforts, Malcolm and Stephanie still strike out!

 

12/ Jill is offered a big job for Jabot - out of town - by Jack determined to get rid of her!!!

 

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Y&R:Sneak Peeks/Spoilers Dec wk 4++ !!!

 

Posted 12/14/94

 

Spoilers!

 

1/ Cole gets off to a bad start with his new editor!

 

2/ Victoria is happy at her job at Jabot!

 

3/ Victor sees a similarity between Nikki and Sharon in regards to wealthy men!

 

4/ Matt gets more aggressive with Sharon to the point where she is in danger of getting raped!

 

5/ Jill gets tricked by John and Jack into showing where her priorities lie!

 

6/ Keemo prepares a special evening for Christine but she reminds him that she is getting married!

 

7/ Set off by a sexy bridal shower, Mary Williams questions Chris about commitment!

 

8/ With Victor wanting to celebrate Christmas with his children, Hope asks Cliff if she can spend the holidays with him and his wife!

 

9/ Cliff agrees but neglects to tell her that there is no wife!

 

10/ Kay rejects the temptation of the bottle!

 

Next week...

 

Sharon is in over her head!!!

 

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Fyi:
Late Nov 1994, Rex Sterling is shot.
Dec 1, 1994. Rex dies in the hospital.

 

Y&R: SPOILER: 12/5/94 - 12/9/94
SPOILERS AHEAD!!!

Posted 12/4/94
Malcolm senses Dru's changed attitude towards him.  Nick discovers that Sharon's mother had an operation.  Matt warns Amy that Victor paid for the operation.  Kay bids her final farewell to Rex and breaks down in Danny's arms.  Paul and Christine argue about Danny and Phyllis.  Mai asks her mother if Jack is going to marry her.  Keemo asks Ashley about Mary Jo.

 

Y&R: SPOILER: 12/12/94 - 12/16/94
Posted 12/11/94
SPOILERS AHEAD!!!
Cole is assigned a new editor to handle his new book.  Victoria begins her work at Jabot assigned to be with Neil.  Doris worries about Sharon dating Matt.  Hope decides to spend Christmas at the farm while Victor remains with his family.  Mourning Rex, Kay considers falling off the wagon.  John and Jack negotiate Jill's contract.

 

Y&R: SPOILER: 12/19/94 - 12/23/94
Posted 12/18/94
SPOILERS AHEAD!!!
Nina invites Victoria and Cole to spend Christmas with her, Ryan, and Philip.  Hope asks Cliff about Susie, his new wife, but he evades the question.  Mary argues with Paul about Christine being the wrong woman for him.  Sharon is in shock after Matt rapes her and reacts when Matt threatens to kill Nick if he ever sees them together.  Blade suggests to Ashley that they go away for the holidays but she is not interested.

 

Y&R: PREVIEW: MON 26 DECEMBER (SPOILERS!!!)
Posted 12/23/94
On Monday 26 December:
Sharon goes to doctor for HIV test. Doctor figures out that she was raped, suggests that she should report it. Nick visits Mrs. Collins, to talk to her about Sharon. Cricket, Nina, Lauren and Lynne try on dresses. Nick sees Matt trying to seduce girl in coffee shop.

 

I HAVE IT ON GOOD AUTHORITY THAT...... 
There will be a hit and run involving two characters on the show, week of DEC 26!!!

 

Y&R: SPOILER: 12/26/94 - 12/30/94
Posted 12/25/94
SPOILERS AHEAD!!!
Phyllis spots Danny kissing Christine and decides to take drastic action.  Paul and Christine head home to change for the wedding but never arrive.  Sharon admits to the clinic doctor that she was date-raped.  Brad warns Ashley not to vacation with Blade.  Mary Jo shows off her engagement ring to Luan and boasts of Jack's commitment to her.
 

15 hours ago, YRfan23 said:

(on the 9/26 episode it's confirmed the party already happen, so I'm wondering if the actual party aired between September 16, September 19, Sept 21-22)

 

The 9/19/1994 recap is here:
https://boards.soapoperanetwork.com/topic/57902-yr-to-air-classic-episodes/page/145/?tab=comments#comment-1675424

and that recap doesn't have Sharon's birthday party.

 

That leaves Sharon's 1994 birthday party happening on Fri Sept 16, Wed Sept 21, or Thurs Sept 22. Or it could have happened off-screen.

 

Soapcentral bio for Sharon says her birthday is Sept 17, but I don't know where they got that from. (Sept 17 was a Saturday in 1994)

 

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US Monday June 29, 2020 (CDN Fri June 26, 2020)
#5450, original US airdate Wed Sept 21, 1994.

(This is what we've been trying to figure out).

 

new from Global:
US Tuesday June 30, 2020 (CDN Mon June 29, 2020)

#5509, original US airdate Wed Dec 14, 1994.

 

In early Dec. 1994, "rec.arts.tv.soaps" newsgroup did a split.

CBS daytime soaps were to be in "rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs"

But Y&R posts appeared in both of the groups for a while.

I checked both newsgroups.

Posts indicated that Matt Clark raped Sharon in the car, on the episodes of Friday Dec 16, 1994 and Monday Dec 19, 1994. 

 

One poster posted on 12/15/94 "Sharon raped by Matt -- could they have been more obvious? Could they have been more obvious about this happening? I've been fairly sure that this was going to happen for about a week, I hardly needed to watch."
I don't know if the rape aired 12/15 also, or if that poster saw it early in Canada.

 

I found nothing at all about Wed. Dec 14, 1994.

 

There was a daily TV show called "Pure Soap" which had soap news, episode updates, and sometimes actor interviews.

 

A recapper on "rec.arts.tv.soaps" tried to post recaps when possible. The recapper said the show had lots of info and there was too much to recap, so therefore she(the recapper) was was able to recap some highlights but not everything. 

 

The show was hosted by Shelley Taylor Morgan.

 

Here is the Y&R portion from Sept. 7, 1994 through Oct. 5, 1994

Note, sometimes Y&R was not recapped (either because the recapper was not able to get everything or perhaps Pure Soap did not mention Y&R that day).

 

I don't know if the clips and updates on Pure Soap are dated the same as when they aired on Y&R, or if Pure Soap is ahead or behind by a day or two. 

 

(Posting to give some context to the Sept 21, 1994 episode that will be rebroadcast soon.)

 

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rec.arts.tv.soaps 
PS: Pure Soap highlights for Wednesday -- Sept. 7, 1994
9/7/94
PURE SOAP highlights for 07-SEP-1994
UPDATES:
Y&R's Victoria might not be Miss America but she can certainly sympathize with what Vanessa Williams went through when her Miss America title was stripped away after Penthouse printed some old photos of her in a compromising position.
[Insert clip of someone loading magazines onto a news stand and then opening "the" magazine and checking out the centerfold.]

 

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rec.arts.tv.soaps
PS: Friday (Sept. 9) -- Pure Soap highlights
9/11/94 (posted two days after Pure Soap aired)
PURE SOAP highlights for 09-SEP-1994
UPDATES:
- Y&R's Dru is convinced her child belongs to husband Neil but her sister Olivia has her doubts.  After all there was that time a heavily medicated Dru thought she was making love to Neil but it might have been Neil's brother Malcolm.
[Insert clip of Dru and Olivia talking about the possibility.]

 

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rec.arts.tv.soaps
PS: Pure Soap highlights for Thursday -- Sept. 8, 1994
9/8/94
PURE SOAP highlights for 08-SEP-1994
UPDATES:
Y&R's Victoria seems to be living by the motto, "when the going gets tough, the tough hit the road."  Last summer she became a waitress in a greasy spoon.  This summer she's Miss September...but not if her father and husband have anything to say about it.
[Insert clip of Victor and Cole confronting a couple of men about the magazine.]

 

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rec.arts.tv.soaps
PS: Monday (Sept. 12) -- Pure Soap highlights
9/12/94
PURE SOAP highlights for 12-SEP-1994
UPDATES:
[Today's focus:  soap triangles]
- Y&R's Danny, Chris, and Paul are starting to be involved in a triangle as well.  But...there was a triangle before and Chris didn't even know she was involved in it.
[Insert clip of Danny telling Chris that he has a son.  He says he's sorry and she tells him to leave.]

 

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rec.arts.tv.soaps
PS: Wednesday (Sept. 14) -- Pure Soap highlights
9/14/94
PURE SOAP highlights for 14-SEP-1994

UPDATES (episode updates for several soaps but Y&R not mentioned)

STM ==> Shelley Taylor Morgan, bubbly host of PURE SOAP.

IN-STUDIO GUEST:  Y&R's Sharon Case (Sharon Collins)

- STM says Y&R just couldn't settle on an actress to play young Nick Newman's wannabe girlfriend this summer but they finally seem to have gotten it right by casting a soap veteran:  Sharon Case.

- She recently played Debbie on ATWT.  Before that she played Dawn on GH.  STM asks how she handles moving back and forth from one coast to the other.  Sharon says she always thought she'd live in NY so she grabbed the chance when she was offered the part on ATWT.  She loved living there.

- STM asks for some hints of what's coming up and [predictably] Sharon says she really can't say much.  She is involved in the trio with Nick and Amy.  There will be some very exciting storyline coming up between the three of them.

- GH was a great show to work on.  She says it was her first job as an actress so maybe that's why she has such fun memories of it.  

- Working with the ATWT's cast was great...they rehearsed a lot more for that show than they do some others so she really got to know her castmates very well and they all became friends.

- A caller wants to know if she has a hard time playing someone so "unwholesome" since her looks are so innocent.  Sharon jokes that it is hard and she's trying to find some "evil" hairdos and makeup for her character.

 

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rec.arts.tv.soaps
PS: Thursday (Sept. 15) -- Pure Soap highlights
Posted 9/17/94
PURE SOAP highlights for 15-SEP-1994
(Y&R not mentioned.)

 

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rec.arts.tv.soaps
PS: Monday (Sept. 19) -- Pure Soap highlights
9/19/94
PURE SOAP highlights for Monday -- 19-SEP-1994
UPDATES:
- Y&R.  What a coincidence that Jack suddenly starts remembering his heretofore unmentioned Vietnam experience the same week a Vietnamese family rides into town.
[Insert clip of Jack telling Chris… the woman that owns the Saigon Shack reminds him very much of a girl he knew in during the war.  He says not many people know he was in Vietnam and he wants to keep it that way.]

 

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PS: Tuesday (Sept. 20) -- Pure Soap highlights
9/20/94
PURE SOAP highlights for Tuesday -- 20-SEP-1994

STM ==> Shelley Taylor Morgan, bubbly host of PURE SOAP.

UPDATES (The recapper mentions episode updates for GH, AMC, GL, AW, but not Y&R)

IN-STUDIO GUEST:  Y&R's Elizabeth Sung (Luan Volien)

- The Volien family's story features the heartbreakingly painful tale of an immigrant mother and the son she was forced to leave behind.
[Insert clip of Luan telling Keemo she prefers not to cling to bitter memories.  Instead, she prefers to remember the special times...the happy times.  She thinks of those times often when she looks at a picture of her G.I.  Keemo's upset that she wants to remember anything about the man.  He can't believe she still keeps a picture of a man that used her and then abandoned her.  She insists the man didn't know about his son but Keemo says he knew about her.  She says he may have been killed and Keemo says he hopes so.  He asks what he ever gave her but misery and hardship.  She says "he" gave her the most precious gift of all:  Keemo.]

 

STM = Shelley Taylor Morgan, bubbly host of PURE SOAP.
ES = Elizabeth Sung (Luan Volien)
    
- STM comments on how Elizabeth's character seems so much older (gray streaks in her hair, little makeup, etc.) that much of the audience probably wouldn't even recognize her.  ES says she thinks it's just part of what happens when any new character is introduced on a show...they have to search for the right look.

- ES says her first choice in the performing arts is dance.  She was able to tour all around the country after graduating from Julliard because of dancing and she loved it.  STM asks if she still dances and she says she's too old...her back hurts too much.  She does milder things like yoga for everyday exercise, now.

- She also worked as an assistant production designer on a movie that was filmed last year in Shanghai.  The job dealt with making sure the look of the film, the costumes, and making sure sets that need to be built get built.  

- ES was born in Hong Kong and didn't move away until she finished high school.  

- One of the jobs she had was working with her sister last year to coordinate a fireworks display.  She worked as a translator (Chinese to French) for the Frenchman in charge of the display.  She got to see all sorts of fireworks factories and had a great time.

- STM says it's amazing...ES does everything!  ES laughs that she doesn't do windows!

 

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rec.arts.tv.soaps
PS: Wednesday (Sept. 21) -- Pure Soap highlights
9/21/94
PURE SOAP highlights for Wednesday -- 21-SEP-1994
UPDATES:
- Y&R.  Drucilla's pregnant but is her husband Neil the tyke's father?
[Insert clip of Neil reacting to the news that Drucilla's pregnant.  She says it's a big step having this baby...she's not sure she's ready.  He assures her that they'll make wonderful parents.]

 

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rec.arts.tv.soaps ›
PS: Friday (Sept. 23) -- Pure Soap highlights (Y&R not mentioned)
9/24/94 (this episode posted to the newsgroup the day after it aired)
PURE SOAP highlights for Friday -- 23-SEP-1994
(Y&R not mentioned)

 

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rec.arts.tv.soaps
PS: Monday (Sept. 26) -- Pure Soap highlights
9/26/94
PURE SOAP highlights for Monday -- 26-SEP-1994
UPDATES:
- Y&R.  Jill has a problem.  She loves her husband John...and she especially loves her husband's money.  But, she's sleeping with her contractor Jed and her housekeeper Mamie knows all about it.
[Insert clip of a police officer taking Jill's report about her car being stolen as Mamie listens disapprovingly to the details of the circumstances in which Jill's car was stolen:  she was parked at Jed's office at 9pm and hadn't bothered to turn on the car's tracking device.]

 

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rec.arts.tv.soaps 
PS: Tuesday (Sept. 27) -- Pure Soap highlights
9/27/94
PURE SOAP highlights for Tuesday -- 27-SEP-1994
(Y&R not mentioned)

 

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PS: Friday (Sept. 30) -- Pure Soap highlights
9/30/94
PURE SOAP highlights for Friday -- 30-SEP-1994

SOAP NEWS:  
- TV's largest advertiser, Proctor & Gamble, the sponsors of ATWT, AW, and GL has threatened to pull $500,000,000 in advertising if the networks preempt those shows for O. J. Simpson coverage.

UPDATES: [episode updates for OLTL and DOOL. Y&R not mentioned.]

IN-STUDIO GUESTS:  Y&R's Tricia Cast (Nina McNeil) and Scott Reeves (Ryan McNeil)

- Tricia says Nina's very worried that Ryan will leave her if she tells him about losing the baby.  Scott says Ryan could do *anything* and Nina would never leave him.  Tricia says she's a lot less gullible in real life.

- Tricia started acting professionally when she was 11; and was 18 or 19 when she started on Y&R.  She's been with the show for 8 or 9 years.   She loves the closeness she feels on the set.

- Tricia's recently split up with her husband Jack.  She says she still loves him and has nothing but respect for him but they just see things differently.

- [Insert clip of Nina getting a phone call from Ryan.  She's crying but manages to keep him from realizing it.  He says he tried to call earlier but didn't get an answer.  He asks where she was and she says she was just out with Cricket.  He tells her he misses them and hopes to be home by tomorrow night.  He asks about Phillip and asks her to give him a hug.  He says he's got to go and she tells him she loves him.  He says he loves her too and promises to be home soon.]

- Scott blows some bubbles on the air for his daughter Emily.  Too cute.

- A caller says she likes Nina and Ryan together but wants to know what happened to Nina's relationship with John Silva.  Tricia says she doesn't really know but she never questions anything Bill Bell does.

 

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PS: Monday (Oct. 3) -- Pure Soap highlights
10/3/94
PURE SOAP highlights for Monday -- 03-OCT-1994
(Y&R not mentioned)

 

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PS: Wednesday (Oct. 5) -- Pure Soap highlights
10/5/94
PURE SOAP highlights for Wednesday -- 05-OCT-1994
UPDATES:
Y&R.  Jack once kept his service in Vietnam so secret that none of the viewers or the actors who played Jack knew anything about it.  But now that a new Vietnamese family has settled in Genoa City, it's time for all those repressed memories to come flooding to the surface.
[Insert clip of Jack telling Chris about getting shipped out after being injured.  He says he tried to get in touch with "her" but she was gone.  All his letters to her were returned...and he still has them. Now he's got a chance to see her again and tell her how much she meant to him...how she brought hope and love to a very frightened young man from America.]

 

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3 hours ago, BoldRestless said:

So comparing the spoilers to the recap of 9/19 posted by @janea4old and the summary of 9/20 posted by @YRfan23 pretty much all of the spoilers for the week already happened by 9/21:

 

John Silva warns Jill that John would not allow her to keep working at Jabots once she files for divorce.  Mary doesn't like the idea of Paul marrying Christine.   Later, he proposes to Christine. Victoria finally understands why Cole is upset with her (assuming this is about the centerfold).

 

This is the only thing that hasn't happened, and it doesn't sound very important (is Marilyn Mari Jo Mason?): Ashley asks for Paul's opinion about Marilyn's signature and the one on the painting she received as a wedding gift.   

 

 

Someone at rec.arts.tv.soaps asked about 
Blade, Jack, Mari Jo, Ashley, the painting, and the signature,
and there was a thread of replies:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.tv.soaps/6W1FMzHigm4/nZ_37RHji0UJ
(That is a thread.)

 

The initial post, dated 9/16/94 was a bunch of questions, and here are the replies:

 

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reply dated 9/17/94

>What is the connection between Blade and Jack's fiancé (I think her name is Mary Jo)?
Reply:     Mary Jo used to be involved with Blade.  But at some point in the relationship Mary Jo slept with Blade's Brother (no name yet).  When Blade found out he proceeded to break up with her, and he got in a fight with his brother on the docks.  Supposedly, after Blade punched his brother to the dock floor, his brother fell off the dock into the ocean and drowned. Blade claims he did not hear his brother's cry for help, but Mary Jo claims that Blade heard his brother, but simply ignored his cries for help.

 

>What is Mary Jo hiding?
Reply:     She has not told Jack her really name yet or the fact that she and Blade were once involved with each other.  Basically, her whole past is being hidden from Jack.

>Why would Jack and Ashley be so upset by this information?
Reply:     Who knows. I guess they (the writers) figure that Ashley and Jack would be mad that they were not told about the previous relationship between Blade and Mary Jo.

 

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Reply dated 9/19/94

> Jack's fiancé. Who is she?
Reply:     Mary Jo was Blade's old girlfriend.  She sort of "hunted" him down.

 

>What is Blade's mysterious past? (any new revelations over the summer)
Reply:     Blade had a twin brother (read: his "evil twin").  He got into an argument with him over Mary Jo and Blade killed him..  (Mary Jo slept with his brother while engaged to Blade)

 

>What is the connection between Blade and Jack's fiancé (I think her name is Mary Jo)?
Reply:     Mary Jo saw Blade kill his brother (Blade didn't know that she was watching).

 

>What is Mary Jo hiding?
Reply:     Her real relationship to Blade

 

>Why would Jack and Ashley be so upset by this information?
Reply:     Mary Jo and Blade were involved in the past.

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Reply dated 9/22/94
(This reply gives corrections/clarifications to the one before it)
 

Earlier comment:
Blade had a twin brother (read: his "evil twin"). He got into an argument over Mary Jo with him and Blade killed him. (Mary Jo slept with his brother while engaged to Blade)

 

Another poster in reply (clarification-correction) to that comment: 
Blade said it was an accident. He pushed his brother into the water and did not hear his brother yell that he couldn't swim and thus … drowned.

 

Earlier comment:
Mary Jo saw Blade kill his brother (Blade didn't know that she was watching).

 

Another poster in reply (clarification) to that comment:
Blade did not know his brother couldn't swim. 

Why didn't Marilyn help him out of the water? Marilyn=MariJo

 

Original question: I also remember an episode a while ago where Blade and Ashley received a wedding gift -- it was some sort of painting. Was this painting a gift from Mary Jo? What significance did it have?

 

Reply to the question: She gave the painting to them as Marilyn. Only Blade knows who it's from. Ashley received the gift in the mail with no name on it, only (MM) in the corner.  

 

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Reply dated 9/22/94

 

Mari-jo/Marilyn was Blade's fiancé, she slept with Blade's twin brother. Blade and his brother had a fight on the wharf.  Blade hit his bro, who then fell down.  Blade turned around and left.  The brother then FELL into the ocean and drowned.  Marijo sent Blade and Ash the painting for a wedding gift to tell Blade that she knew where he was.  Blade told Ashley he didn't know who Marilyn is.  Then Marilyn showed up in town (presumably to terrorize Blade), accidentally bumped into Jack and they became an item. Marilyn has been taunting Blade by telling him that she "heard" them fighting from her apartment on the other side of the wharf. And when she saw the brother fall into the water she ran to help..."I never saw him again"...SOB!

 

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Reply dated 9/25/94

 

Question: I also remember an episode a while ago where Blade and Ashley received a wedding gift -- it was some sort of painting. Was this painting a gift from Mary Jo? What significance did it have?

Reply: The painting depicts the dock upon which Blade and his brother fought over Marilyn/Mary-Jo. Marilyn sent it to Blade as a reminder of his deed.

 

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Edit to add: there was one more reply on that rec.arts.tv.soaps thread, dated 9/17/94
That reply said:  "I think they said Blade's brother's name was Alex.  (Or was that his real name?)".

[NOTE: Soapcentral didn't exist back then, but now the soapcentral bio says:
Blade's full name was Alexander Bladeson.  His twin was Rick Bladeson.]

 

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That catches us up to the week of the episode we are wondering about.
(But we still do not know if any of this is in the Sept 21, 1994 episode.)

 

Here is more context from August 22, 1994 - October 21, 1994.
Spoiler items from rec.arts.tv.soaps.
(Only spoilers, so no real details).

 

Source is these two links:
 

Spoilers Sept 23, 1994 - Oct 21, 1994
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.tv.soaps/tM7Z3igZTqY/HNQ0bo1_yhsJ

 

Spoilers Aug 22, 1994 - Sept 19, 1994
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.tv.soaps/lEbp40XNavc/oDGpOveeH5kJ

 

Originally posted to rec.arts.tv.soaps with the most recent weeks first.
Posting here with the oldest weeks first.

 

   Spoiler for week of 08/22/94 - 08/26/94
Luan finds a picture in her drawer that resembles someone in Genoa City. Blade gives MariJo an ultimatum to leave town or else. The publisher looks over the first copy of the photos of Vicki's centerfold. Dru is shocked to find out she doesn't have the flu and pleads with Olivia not to tell Neil.

 

   Spoiler for week of 08/29/94 - 09/02/94
Dru is shocked and upset to learn that she is pregnant. Jack surprises Mary Jo with a special present. Jill decides that a divorce from John is inevitable. Nikki kisses Jack but he tells her that he is involved with another woman. Nick confides in Hope the story of his failed romance with Sharon. John Silva invites Lynn to dinner. Paul guesses that Keemo has a crush on Christine, but she denies it.

 

   Sneak Peak for week of 09/05/94 - 09/09/94
After Esprit De Corps magazine comes out with Victoria as the centerfold, Victor, Nikki, and Cole freak. Eric Forrester looks at the magazine and finds his New model and Vikki will jump from Genoa City to L.A. Victor flies to NY with Cole and John Silva to confront the publishers. Chris and Danny come face to face. Olivia is suspicious about Malcolm and searches for the truth. Jill confides to Jed that she is not in love with John anymore. Nick makes a decision that is certain to affect his future.

 

   Fall Sneak Peak
Jack's Past threatens his future with MariJo. Mamie interferes with Jill's plans for her future. Christine accepts a marriage proposal. Nick's relationship with Sharon threatens his life and freedom. Dru learns she is pregnant. Someone from the past puts complications on Ashley/Blade and MariJo/Jack's relationships.

 

   Sneak Peak for week of 09/12/94 - 09/16/94
Paul is pleased when Christine tells him she made sure Danny knows there is no hope of a reconciliation. Ashley reads Mary Jo's penciling in her driver's license which reads Marilyn Mason. Malcolm begs Olivia not to tell Dru about the night he made love to Dru but Olivia spills the beans. Victoria is nonchalant about the publishing of her nude centerfold. Sharon invites Nick and Amy to her birthday party.

 

   Sneak Peak for week of 09/19/94-09/23/94
[Quoted verbatim and without permission from the Chronicle CityLine of San Francisco (415) 512-5000, Category Number 7505] 
John Silva warns Jill that John would not allow her to keep working at Jabots once she files for divorce. Ashley asks for Paul's opinion about Marilyn's signature and the one on the painting she received as a wedding gift. Mary doesn't like the idea of Paul marrying Christine. Later, he proposes to Christine. Victoria finally understands why Cole is upset with her.

 

   Sneak Peak for Monday 09/19/94
Ashley is getting suspicious of Mari Jo and asks Jack some questions. Luan and Keemo fight about the fact that she still has a picture of her GI, and Cricket comes in and bawls Keemo out and he melts as usual when she speaks. Hope tells Jack that she is pregnant. Victor and Nikki talk, or shall I say he again attacks her.

 

   Sneak Peak for week of 09/26/94-09/30/94
[Quoted verbatim and without permission from the Chronicle CityLine of San Francisco (415) 512-5000, Category Number 7505] 
John plans a surprise party for his wife while she finalizes their divorce papers with John Silva. Ashley confronts Blade about his romantic involvement with Mary Jo and demands the truth or she will never trust him. Nina goes into labor. Victor asks Hope to keep an open mind about terminating her pregnancy.

 

   Sneak Peak for week of 10/03/94-10/07/94
[Quoted verbatim and without permission from the Chronicle CityLine of San Francisco (415) 512-5000, Category Number 7505] 
John retains Mitchell Sherman as his attorney and asks him to be sure Jill does not get custody of their son. Keemo tells his mother that until Christine marries Paul, he still has a chance with her. Jack is shocked to learn that Luan is Mai Yun, the woman he once cared for in Vietnam. Nikki questions Douglas about some tension in Victor and Hope's marriage.

 

   Sneak Peak for week of 10/10/94-10/14/94
[Quoted verbatim and without permission from the Chronicle CityLine of San Francisco (415) 512-5000, Category Number 7505] 
Rex orders Kate to stay out of Jill and John's marital problems. Nina decides that she must tell Ryan about losing the baby. Nikki and Jed make love again. Sharon is upset when Nick fails to show for their date, unaware that Amy has thrown him a surprise party. Cole and Victoria make love for the first time since the centerfold incident. Blade tries to smooth things over with Ashley but she is not interested.

 

   Sneak Peak for week of 10/17/94-10/21/94
[Quoted verbatim and without permission from the Chronicle CityLine of San Francisco (415) 512-5000, Category Number 7505] 
Luan admits to Christine that Jack is Keemo's father, but swears her to secrecy. Jack confronts Mary Jo about her deception. Gina gives Danny a room above the restaurant. Paul suggests to Christine that they get marry over Thanksgiving but then backs off. Hope and Victor receive the test results. Victoria guesses that Nikki is hoping Victor's marriage fail.

 

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28 minutes ago, BoldRestless said:

Is Marilyn Mari Jo Mason?

Yes Mari Jo's real name is Marilyn.

 

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Sharon's birthday party isn't mentioned in any of those spoilers. I don't know why.

 

29 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Thank you @janea4old for finding that...and thank you to the recapper, wherever you are now, for NOT having cutesy, clever nicknames all over your recap, as so many did.

 

I haven't been following the '90s  episodes much as the ones that @YRfan23 shares are enough for me, but as this one is "new" and the needlepointing scene sounds hilarious (it's the type of thing I probably would have laughed at back in the day) and it's a good Dru episode, I may DVR it. It's a shame it has Nina's miscarriage story as that always upset me.

 

It sounds like this is still when Sharon was a bad girl too. (this wasn't Sharon Case yet then?)

 

I sure miss Nina and Dru...

 

Yes Amy needlepointing pillows with Nikki is an interesting contrast to
... Victoria showing her (Victoria's) nude pictures in the magazine centerfold ... to her brother Nick(!) and then commenting well our mom Nikki was a stripper so what's the big deal.

 

But that's the Sept 15, 1994 recap, so I don't know how you would DVR that. (I'd love to see that too)
What's airing next week is Sept 21, 1994, and we have not (yet) found a recap for that.

 

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Per the recap, on Sept 15, 1994, Sharon tells Doris that she's having a party at their apartment sometime soon. Amy thanks Sharon for inviting Amy and Nick to the party.

 

I recently watched the Sept 26, 1994 episode. Sharon and Doris discuss the birthday party, which has already happened. Sharon mentions that party happened at the Newman ranch. Doris asked how it went. Doris wants to know if anybody figured out that it really wasn't Sharon's 18th birthday party, but instead it was actually Sharon's 19th birthday party.  Sharon says nobody has figured it out and everyone thinks she just turned 18.  The conversation implies there is a missing year that Sharon and Doris are keeping secret -- but it did not hint why in that episode.

(Of course we know now that this was the year of Sharon's pregnancy with Cassie and Mariah).

(There is more in that 9/26/1994 episode but I'll stop there).

 

My point is that Sharon's birthday party happens after the Thurs Sept 15, 1994 episode, and before the Monday Sept 26, 1994 episode.

From recaps and playlists, we know it doesn't happen Sept 19, 20, or 23.

So that leaves .. . Sharon's birthday happening on Fri Sept 16, Wed Sept 21, or Thurs Sept 22.

(I suppose the party could have taken place offscreen but that seems unlikely).

The soapcentral bio for Sharon says her birthday is Sept 17th, which was a Saturday in 1994.

Sept 15, 1994 recap, for more context:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.tv.soaps/3CKoe50wNKE/A7rm3jEhyU4J

rec.arts.tv.soaps 
Update 9/15
(posted late on 9/27/94)

From the "better late than never" department, here's the Thursday, September 15th update for Y&R. 

 

Dru at the doctor's office
Dru is visiting a (new) doctor, seeking to end her pregnancy.  He asks her why she came to see him specifically, and she replies that she wants to see a doctor that she didn't know.  [seems that dr-patient confidentiality is a problem in Genoa City -- especially judging by Olivia's conduct as of late].  She is very upset and wants an abortion.

 

Jed's office

Jill and Jed are dancing cheek to cheek to elevator music (how convenient).  She says that dancing with Jed reassures her that she is making the right decision (to divorce John).  She needs a man who knows how to make a woman feel alive.  She thinks they're still married because of Billy.  She says it's ironic that when she told John about her pregnancy, John was so upset, and now he is really taken with the baby.  She's absolutely determined to divorce John, no matter what.

 

Coffee House
Matt comes over to see Nick and starts talking about how Victoria is one hot babe.  Nick looks puzzled.

 

Nina's place
Nina's on the couch.  It's been a few hours since she felt the pains.  She tries to reassure herself that nothing's wrong.  Phone rings.   It's Ryan, who forgot something in Phillip's bedroom (he's away on business).  He asks whether she could bring the file to his secretary at his office.  She says she will, and doesn't mention the pains.

 

Coffee House
Matt tells Nick about the centerfold -- everyone's talking about it.  Nick gets miffed, and threatens Matt.  Nick's speechless when Matt produces the magazine.  Nick takes off, but not before Matt rubs it in that he and Sharon are a hot item again.

 

Jill & Jed
Jill says she has to be careful, because she hasn't a hope of getting through the divorce unscathed if John finds out about her affair.  She hopes she can get John to file for the divorce.  Jed thinks this is just wishful thinking.

 

Coffee House
Some guy and Amy talk.  Amy just returned from a dental appointment.  She runs into Sharon.  Amy tells Sharon that she's having the most incredible summer, and that she gets along really well with Nick, and his mother, who couldn't have been nicer to her.  She thanks Sharon for inviting Nick and her to Sharon's Birthday Bash, because it'll be their first "together" party.  She leaves.  Sharon looks pissed off.  [comment from recapper: by the way, Sharon has recently had a french manicure -- guess the bills include personal grooming:  we have to have our priorities in order, don't we?].

 

Abbott Home
Jill gets home.  John greets her, and asks where she was.  He was anxious to see her.  He offers her a cocktail.  She's not in the mood, she says.  John offers to help Jill "unwind" but she cuts him off, asking where Billy is.  Seems Mamie took him to the park to give them some time together (sweet Mamie!).  Jill rejects more advances and is fuming about Mamie taking the baby out when she is expected home.  She's saved by Mamie and Billy's return (it started to rain and they had to come home early).  Jill berates her.  John takes the baby and plays/talks to him.  Jill looks like she feels a little guilty for the impending breakup.

 

Olivia's Office
Neil comes over wanting to know what Olivia's not telling him about Dru's condition.  When's the fatigue going to end?

 

Dru at Doctor's 

The doctor's policy is never to perform an abortion before finding out more about the case.  He assumes she's not married.  When Dru corrects him, he questions her motivations for not telling her husband.  She says that her husband must never know.

Ryan's Office
Nina brings the files to Linda (Ryan's secretary).  Nina stays behind to leave a note for Ryan to get when he returns.  While she's looking for some paper, she comes across the magazine with Vicky's pictures in his desk.  She looks at it.

 

Sharon's Place
"Girl"'s mom rolls out and complains that Sharon didn't put the iron where she could reach it, and she couldn't iron today.  Sharon rudely brushes her off, tells her she will do the ironing herself that evening (OK?), and BTW she's having a party at the apartment sometime soon  She says this will be a very important party for her.

 

Ranch
Nikki is needlepointing.  Doorbell rings (Miguel, I'll get it).  It's Amy.  It seems Nikki invited her over to help out.  Amy brought a pillow that she did.  Fancy work.

 

Tacky Room
Victoria is pretending to make iced tea.  Luckily Nick drops by.  He confronts her about the centerfold.  She's pretty down to earth about it.  She asks his opinion of the pictures.  "Helluva spread, Vic" 

 

Olivia's Office
Neil continues to pump Olivia for information. 

 

Other doctor's Office
Dru is really confused and upset.  She tells the doctor that she's unsure of the baby's paternity, asking whether there's a way to tell the exact moment of conception.  The doctor suggests a physical exam.

 

Tacky Room
Nick says Victor must've flipped.  She tells Nick about the buy-out of the issue, the acquisition of the company and firing Glenn and Alec.   They both agree that this is in keeping with their Dad.  Victoria says she can't understand his reaction, since their Mom was a stripper and THAT was ok.  Why not this?

 

The Collins'
Mom asks about the party and who's being invited.  Sharon tells her that Amy and Nick have been invited.  The mother sees through Sharon's plot to get Nick nearer.  Sharon denies anything underhanded.  Sharon comes across a letter in the mail that her mother is quite anxious she not read.  It's from the insurance company.

 

Ranch
Nikki and Amy are needlepointing.  Amy tells Nikki that she learned how to do it from her mom, and that she and her mom are very close.   Nikki remarks that Amy's lucky to be close to her mother, since not everyone has that sort of relationship.  They talk about Nick's return to school.  Nikki says that she insisted that he go back.  She then pumps Amy about Sharon.  The party comes up, and Nikki counsels Amy not to let Nick out of her sight at the party.

 

Tacky Room
Nick says he's more concerned about Cole's reaction to the centerfold.  He hopes Vicki and Cole can work this thing through.  They talk about Switzerland.  Vicki asks about Sharon.

 

Nina's House
She takes a long hard look at the centerfold.  "How could Vicky do this?"  "Why does Ryan have the magazine?"

 

Olivia's Office
Olivia says Dru's overstressed and tired.  She promises Neil she will keep a close eye on her sister.  Neil makes her promise to tell him is there's anything he should know.

 

Dru & doctor
The doctor tells Dru her pregnancy's early.  He can't confirm the exact date of conception.  She wants to abort asap.  He says that there's one more thing she should consider before making her final decision.  It's a miracle that she's pregnant at all, since she has chronic pelvic inflammatory disease.  This will probably be the only child she'll ever have, because there's a lot of scar tissue surrounding her reproductive system, probably due to undiagnosed recurring infection.  He urges her to reassess prior to aborting.  She asks whether it's some sort of miracle that she even conceived.  He says yes.  She asks herself whether it's a miracle or a nightmare.  She cries beautifully and the scene closes with her teary eyes.

 

The end.

 

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I found a recap for Sept 19, 1994 (two epis before the one that will be rebroadcast)

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.tv.soaps/-FagxPDyI4c/TrrtKFW6JecJ

 

rec.arts.tv.soaps
Y&R:Update for Monday, 9/19/94
Posted 9/20/94

 

 

Jill shocks her new lawyer:

Jill goes to see John Silva and requests that he represent her during her divorce from John Abbott. John is stunned. Jill is adamant nothing can save the marriage. Jill begs John to represent her. Her demands are simple, she knows she'll keep the 20% of Jabot stock (from her first divorce from John), so in addition she wants support for baby Billy and her job at Jabot. John cautions keeping the job might be difficult. John agrees to prepare the preliminary divorce papers.

 

 

Katherine wants the dirt on Jill:

Katherine stops by to talk to Mamie about Jill's affair with Jed. Mamie admits she thinks Jill has been unfaithful. Katherine warns Mamie they must share information to nail Jill and save John. Katherine says Jill and Jed are definitely in "heat". Katherine suggests they set at trap for Jill, for little Billy's sake. Mamie is reluctant to help and trust Katherine...

 

 

Keemo blasts Luan's memories:

Luan has fond memories of her "GI". Keemo doesn't share the same feelings about this "user of a man". Keemo rejects his natural father vehemently. Luan leaves in tears and Cricket reads Keemo the riot act for his insensitivity. Cricket tells Keemo he doesn't have the market cornered on pain. Cricket's words get to Keemo and he apologizes for his harshness...

 

 

Hope and Jack catch up:

Jack shares his engagement with Hope and she shares her pregnancy with him. They are happy for each other.

 

 

Neil and Nathan wonder what's up with Dru:

Nathan warns Neil that something is going on. They agree to work together to determine what's up. Meanwhile Dru is seeing Olivia demanding Olivia schedule a D&C. Olivia informs Dru she has it scheduled. Nathan stops by Neil's apartment with Little Nate and the men bond about fatherhood.  Neil coos to Little Nate that one day he wants a son just like him.  Dru watches this tender scene in emotional turmoil...

 

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[The Sept 20th episode continues ... Dru is watching (from the doorway) Neil talking to Little Nate].

 

20 hours ago, YRfan23 said:

Ughhh...horrible list for next week!   (For B&B that is)

 

https://daytimeconfidential.com/2020/06/18/emmy-winners-on-tap-for-young-and-restless-and-bold-and-beautiful-classics

 

The  description says for Friday June 26 says:
originally aired January 2, 2018
Liam discovers Steffy slept with his father Bill after he learns she had a paternity test on their baby. An emotionally distraught Steffy begs Liam not to leave her as reality sets in that his wife betrayed him by having a one-night stand with his dad. 
 

JMW's Emmy reel (2019 award ceremony for 2018 airdates)
contained clips from all of these epis:
Episodes: #7745, #7746, #7852, #7754, #7888, #7896
Air Dates: Tuesday, January 2, 2018 | Wednesday, January 3, 2018 | Monday, June 4, 2018 | Monday, January 15, 2018 | Tuesday, July 24, 2018 | Friday, August 3, 2018

source:
https://www.soapcentral.com/emmys/news/2019/0422-emmy_coverage_clips_lead_actress.php

 

But I just watched 7745 (Jan 2, 2018) and 7746 (Jan 3, 2018)
and it's one scene over two epis.
Liam learns of the paternity test and Bill in 7745, and Steffy begs Liam not to leave in 7746.

So which one are they airing June 26?
7745 fits the announced date of Jan 2, '18, but it seems like 7746 better fits the description they announced.

On 6/17/2020 at 5:18 PM, janea4old said:

I understand Neil had a secretary in 1984.  Does anyone know the character name and/or the actor name?

 

 

2 hours ago, Legacy said:

Ive never heard of This before lol, was this Secretary appearing often enough in 1984?

When did neil fenmore first appear i never really seen much scenes from him.

WHOOPS.  I meant to say Neil had a secretary in 1997!   I had several tabs open and was looking at something from 1984 on another tab.

 

I intended to talk about Neil Winters in 1997
(not Neil Fenmore in 1984).

Sorry about that!

Neil Winters first appeared on Feb.14, 1991.

Neil Fenmore was on Y&R approximately 1983-86, I'm not sure.

 

So sorry I made such a confusing post with the wrong year!

 

Let me start over....

I understand Neil Winters had a secretary in 1997.  Does anyone know the character name and/or the actor name?