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  1. 5 hours ago, KMan101 said:

     

    I also think a part of it was that, it just seemed like, on-screen, Nancy was "over it", at least that's how sometimes it played out to me. I can't blame her but ... and the writing for Jo didn't help.

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    Totally. The show had run its course at that point. Combine Pippa and all those flashback-type episodes. It was clear the well of ideas was dry, but after nearly a decade, that's completely understandable. Marrying off Jo seemed like an easy way out to fade her away, especially sending her three-episode husband offscreen on a business trip (or a music trip? I forget). With Geoff coming back for Tootie, I always thought it would have nice to see Eddie return for Jo, maybe not as a boyfriend, but to see him again since he was her first love and they devoted a lot of time to him in the earlier years. 

     

    That said, learning later how private Nancy McKeon is and what she wanted to do in life, I get her wanting to move on.

  2. 21 hours ago, KMan101 said:

     

    And personally I didn't love Jo in the later years. Nancy was so much more natural and happy earlier on. It felt like she was over it for a long time. IDK. I know why they had Jo acting the way she did but it often felt "all about Jo". Jo from earlier and Jo from later feel like such different characters to me. No one else felt that drastically different. It's hard to explain, I guess.

     

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    I know exactly what you mean. In the episode where Natalie loses her virginity to Snake, and he doesn't call her for a while, Natalie asks Jo for advice. Jo brushes it off with some philosophical quote, and Natalie calls her out on it, saying something to the effect that Jo is only clucking out platitudes. When pushed, we finally see a glimmer of old-Jo. It was only momentary but noticeable. I love Scott Bryce but marrying Jo off and essentially having her as a background character, making a face here and there, for the rest of that final season was a shame. The essence of Jo was lost -- rough around the edges, blunt, but with a heart of gold.

  3. For anyone interested, both Mindy Cohn and Kim Fields have posted part of their eulogies at Charlotte Rae's funeral to their respective Instagram accounts. They wanted to capture the words for the many lives Charlotte touched.

     

     

  4. Oh no :(  I didn't realize she had cancer. Thanks for everything, Charlotte. Mrs. G was such a special part of my childhood. I can just hear her saying, "Girls! Girls!"

     

    How wonderful that she and the girls reunited at a number of events over the past few years. 

     

    Getting an error message when trying to embed social media posts, but some lovely tributes from Kim and Mindy.

     

     

  5. 41 minutes ago, Khan said:

     

    Actually, mango, I think changing the setting from a gourmet shop to a novelty store was a smart idea.  A store like Over Our Heads lent itself more to visual/gag humor, whereas with Edna's Edibles...well, it's tough, IMO, to make quiche and croissants funny.  

     

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    That's a great point. The store grew up, as the girls grew up. One scene that stands out to me is after the fire; Jo buys Blair the stuffed green frog to replace the one that was disfigured in the blaze. Edna's Edibles was destroyed, everything was burnt, and yet there was this coloured stuff animal that opened the door to the next chapter of the show.

  6. 31 minutes ago, Khan said:

     

    Oh, and "Tootie Drives," in which Tootie, well, drives.  Some HUGE laughs in that one.

     

     

     

    "Look to the left, look to the right" :) 

     

    I think you've listed all of my favourite episodes, Khan, along with 'Take My Finals, Please'. An honourable mention to the Debarge episode (the name escapes me), mostly due to Blair whipping out the Julie Andrews and those quintessential 80s outfits. There aren't too many post-Edna's Edibles episodes that I care for though.

     

    Sorry for derailing the thread. I now want to get my DVDs out and watch again.

  7. Could we see Scott Bryce? :) 

     

    FOL is one of my guiltiest pleasures. I could probably recite the episode where they stay up studying all night word for word. The show just makes me so happy.

  8. 50 minutes ago, Mitch said:

    so you hear Emma taking a mean crap (and you KNOW she did) while eating the "Hubbard Squash.." or whatever it was. I have always wondered why they didn't incorporate the bathroom into the eavesdropping storylines with someone taking a dump and as they wipe they hear who their real daddy was!

     

     

     

     

    My day has officially been made :lol:  Thank you for this! 

  9. On the topic of Marie Masters, her Wikipedia page says she was on Kate & Allie. But, I can't find it on her IMDB page. Does anyone know if it's true? And if so, which episode? I can't recall seeing her and feel I would've remembered. She and Susan Saint James do look alike. Maybe that's where the confusion is.

  10. 1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

     

    Steven Weber seems to just do the same thing in every role. I didn't mind him on Wings, he was a good contrast to Tim Daly and gave some energy to the proceedings, but you don't look at him and think you're witnessing a great work. 

     

     

    Funny you should mention that. Twenty-ish years later and that vibe is still there on Mom with the sparring brothers, this time opposite William Fichtner.

  11. Just now, dragonflies said:

     

    Eh IMO she's overrated

     

    Maybe it goes back to the SNL days? Not sure. I've got a soft spot for her.

     

    51 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

    No one talks about Mad About You (in spite of reboot discussions), Wings, Suddenly Susan, Caroline in the City, Boston Common, NewsRadio, The Single Guy, Jesse, Just Shoot Me, Veronica’s Closet, or any other of the interchangeable upscale, urban ensemble sitcoms of the ‘90s. Most sitcoms of any era are trash.

     

    And damn. I forgot about half of those shows. NBC, in particular on Thursdays, tried to throw anything to see if it could stick for Must See TV. They wanted something to catch on between Friends and ER. During the second season of Friends, one night they gimmicked having David Schwimmer on The Single Guy while Lea Thompson was on Friends. 

     

    Without Googling, I'm trying to remember the show with Michael J. Fox and Heather Locklear (?). And then Charlie Sheen showed up. Things are fuzzy. And maybe that wasn't even an NBC sitcom.

  12. 11 minutes ago, SoapDope said:

    I will just go ahead an be honest. I don't get the love for Friends. I watched the first couple of years, then got bored. It's not one of my favorites and I get sick of it being on just about every channel in syndication. There are probably 20 channels rerunning in blocks and marathons. I wish it fade into the past.  

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    Oversaturation is definitely part of it. Once the cast starting becoming household names, they were everywhere, and it took away from the chemistry and strength of the writing. Magazines, talk shows, some movie duds (Matt LeBlanc with the monkey who played baseball!). There were a lot of gimmick guest stars, too. Some were out of the park good, like Christina Applegate and Paul Rudd, others not so much.

     

    It's a shame because some of the early episodes, the poker one in particular for me, were well-written and displayed the strength of each actor, who were still finding their niches. There was an innocence in that first season that epitomizes the mid-90s to a tee.

     

    As I got older, certain things started to annoy me more and more... the continuous dumbing down of Joey, trying to force a Joey/Rachel pairing, Phoebe being so mean and losing the essence of the character, Ross becoming a total horndog.

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