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A lovely clip. I will be watching a few vintage Scorpio eps this weekend in his honor. As a side note/distraction to today's sad news, we've had a lot of discussion in recent times re: Guza II, the downshifting of Sonny in those later years, his hyperfocus on Dante's ascension, etc. and how Dominic Zamprogna has been ill-treated since. I was curious if a few of us knew about this (sorry to @carolineg and @titan1978), as I stumbled on this very old anecdote while rummaging around in the GH hashtag entirely by accident: Very glad this didn't happen, but it does follow the classic arc of The Godfather Guza so adored and it fits his clear fixation on Dante.

That's from 2014, but it could easily serve as his last. A good scene.

I don't think they really have any choice. It's been awful for the show these last few years. But yes, it kind of reminds me of people claiming 1995 was too dark and depressing. Try this!

No, I totally get it and generally agree. Putting aside a few malcontents who are just here to hate, I do think there are a lot of great hopes pinned to this show and that people can get super-invested in it and therefore pretty passionate in their criticism. So I understand a lot of that because I have many of the same complaints (and then some). At the same time the reality is no soap is perfect out of the gate and BTG needs a lot of work, which is typical for almost any early daytime show. There's also a lot I enjoy and think is strong as much as I mock (and boy, there's enough to mock) while chugging along catching up on the show, and I feel there's overall good bones structurally. (I def don't think it's realistic or fair for anyone to demand the show's creator be run out on a rail in under six months though, lol.) And I am thrilled about the Barbara/Leslie twist. That kind of tie was essential for keeping her around and I felt the Articulettes saga had more to give.

I suspect it might have been twofold: They needed a nice sequence for Sasha's exit with one of her loved ones, and they likely knew Tristan might not have long and wanted to get him in once more. IIRC there was a lot of talk last year that Tristan and Emma Samms would return soon or often for Sasha, etc. after their exit, but that ending for Robert felt final and deliberate to me given his health in case that didn't happen, which I suspected it wouldn't. I am glad he got to have one more series of scenes.

I would be shocked if any of them didn't appear.

There will never be another like Scorpio. I always wanted the old man to lock in once more (Robert, not TR) and put together a cohesive plan of attack to dismantle Sonny's operation, The Wire-style. They had to neuter the character a bit to keep him viable in latter-day GH given that mob backdrop (now at its lowest ebb in a generation), they gave him a series of silly work positions or subplots, but Robert never lost the essence of who he was. Tristan wasn't ever capable of allowing that. I guess someone can always find Scorpio's master plan in a drawer one day soon. Maybe with the silly old WSB supercomputers and some shag carpeting. That is the Scorpio way.

As others have noted, I assume Kimberly McCullough's recent reminiscence of Robin on her social media is related to this as I assume she'd be back for any tribute. She's made many appearances since Robin and Patrick's exit in the mid-2010s but this will be her first in awhile; I just wish it was under happier circumstances.

Isaiah deserves a love interest who can act.

Very sad, but not surprising. A legend in his own time. Whatever my feelings about the storyline last year, GH clearly knew he likely didn't have long and gave him a HEA with Holly to tie the character up. You could tell. I'm glad they did it and that he also got a final scene not long ago with his new grandchild. To Frank Valentini's credit he often does very well with these memorials and treating the elder cast right before and after they pass, but it has been a very hard decade for GH. Let alone past five years. What Tristan gave to the show won't be surpassed. I hope Kimberly, etc. will appear.

It was Little Mo for me, but I assume she'll never be back.

Boy, do I not miss Lynne.

A feint. I get why they did it, it makes her seem like less of an existential threat than she will turn out to be.

I did not know Susan Fales-Hill, of A Different World fame, wrote on this and its finale. Yikes.

Tomas should've been canned before Day 1.

And still dressed like vintage Missy Elliott!

Impressive. Glad for them.

I've been rooting for Willow to steal Chase and bust up that Mormon marriage for ages (and then dump him from the show) so I'm all for it!

Anything that gets June and her Popeye-style acting offscreen sooner works for me.

Same. Ridiculous I had to rack my brain on several of them.

Way too many, as we've said all along. Which is why I would send away a number of them or kill others off. Charlotte would be de-Spencered, Donna would be nuked and you wouldn't see Avery, Scout, Amelia, Ace, or Bailey til 2035 for all I care lol. Aiden would have a smaller role, James and Wiley would stay little kids and please God can we rename Wiley some nickname or something.

I think the moment to make Esme star of the show has luckily passed. I don't mind her as a recurring villain should that ever happen and Avery Pohl was very talented, but there was a clear period IMO in '23 where the show was hoping to rehab her via amnesia and test the waters with NAC. Any white girl in a storm! Anyway, it's not happening. I do think you can rebuild the Cassadines with Spencer and new people (like the young characters Guza II allegedly intended to introduce before the Franco mess took over), but that would take time. It would also require IMO recommitting to Laura and her family, which FV clearly has no use for. And I would kill off Nikolas. No more.

Hudson's worst day is better than a lot of the cast AFAIC. But that's why I said I'm not resuming this Discourse!

I don't think it's propping when IMO the endgame from the beginning of the show was always going to lead back to Bill and Dani. There's a reason Hayley has barely been a cipher since Day 1. There could be a real character there but there just isn't and hasn't been outside of the show in people's heads, and KM and TD have real heat IMO. But they both have chemistry with so many people. I've said more than once that they might want to recast Hayley if they want to make more of her, but I'm not sure it would make a difference in the current situation. They give Goings very little to work with, Hayley shows up to work dressed like Nomi Malone in Showgirls, and all of that is not her fault. I enjoy a lot of the show warts and all, but the lack of dimension to Hayley (among others) has always been a weak point for me. And I say that as someone who much prefers Dani.

I would send Avery to boarding school for like 10-15 years. Bye! I'd kill Donna and let that be part of the crucible that breaks Carly down again (and opens the door to my crowbarring Sarah Brown back onto the show against the wishes of the audience that has watched Laura for 20+ years). And yeah you don't need Spixie to use Georgie. Though I would bring them back and marry them off ASAP as a big event (and then eventually break them up again).