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I never liked or "got" Theresa. There's a difference between a teenage vixen we root for and a psycho. Theresa was psycho from the jump. Reilly never understood that, which is why he often took Sami Brady too far as well in later years. I didn't know Lindsay could act until AMC.
I always liked Liza Huber. I wish she'd do more acting. Travis Schuldt was absolutely horrendous. So was most of the cast, really - Metcalfe, Dana Sparks, James Hyde, Rodney Van Johnson, you name it.
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Why the Michael Cohen hearing will be unlike anything we’ve seen in recent memory: He’s a witness essentially unencumbered by personal legal jeopardy (he’s already going to jail) and he will not have to respect classification restraints (he doesn’t work for the govt). Buckle up!
— Josh Campbell (@joshscampbell) January 10, 20190 -
Cummings just made clear to @jeremyherb that the Cohen hearing will be public
— Manu Raju (@mkraju) January 10, 2019Cummings says he will make sure questions don’t interfere with Mueller when Cohen appears. https://t.co/qTOV2JFkjM
— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) January 10, 2019“These people cannot go to their fathers to cover their costs,” @SpeakerPelosi says she told the President, about federal workers getting hurt by the shutdown. pic.twitter.com/F0TobhCvzh
— Garrett Haake (@GarrettHaake) January 10, 20190 -
Uh-oh!
Ex-Trump lawyer Michael Cohen has agreed to testify publicly before Congress, a major first move from House Democrats investigating the President https://t.co/H3obd7HTlz pic.twitter.com/hyWFKDa7Qe
— CNN Breaking News (@cnnbrk) January 10, 20190 -
Y'all are a mess. I gave up like 4 weeks in. It was unbearable from Day 1.
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Oh my God. No. (And I say that as a MCU fan)
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Take me now, Black Lodge:
"They say a wall is medieval—well, so is a wheel," Pres. Trump says at meeting near southern border. "A wheel is older than a wall."
— ABC News (@ABC) January 10, 2019
"There are some things that work, you know what? A wheel works, and a wall works." https://t.co/1QHVGTRFOZ pic.twitter.com/Vgs87esAmzTRUMP: "They drive, they just go where there's no security, fencing or walls of any kind, they just make a left into US & they come in and they have women tied up, they have tape over their mouths, electrical tape. Powerful stuff. Not good."
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 10, 2019
Fox News quickly cuts away. pic.twitter.com/EOrVuSRHrBA screenshot of the correction for those who don't want to click: pic.twitter.com/YdS1b2NnUU
— Laura Bassett (@LEBassett) January 10, 20190 -
Bernie Sanders: "What they experienced was absolutely unacceptable, and certainly not what a progressive campaign or any campaign should be about."
— David Wright (@DavidWright_CNN) January 10, 2019In a cab en route to the Capitol. The driver, like every driver this week, says the shutdown has devastated business. She tears up talking about it. "We are poor people. They are killing us."
— Elise Viebeck (@eliseviebeck) January 9, 2019Yikes: Air traffic controllers, who are guiding planes through the sky without pay, received pay stubs on Thursday showing a net pay of zero dollars https://t.co/uT8iNYzXEl via @samjmintz
— Sudeep Reddy (@Reddy) January 10, 2019Trump cancels trip to Davos citing government shutdown, which would suggest that he expects it to still be going on at least another 10 days.
— Peter Baker (@peterbakernyt) January 10, 2019Robert Mueller reportedly sought information directly last year from Tony Fabrizio — one of Trump's campaign pollsters who is also a former business associate of Paul Manafort. https://t.co/QIn7eaANtb
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) January 10, 2019“No wall, no deal,” Pence says in briefing at the Capitol. Repeatedly thanks congressional Rs for “standing strong” & says Democrats are stonewalling in negotiations.
— Julie Davis (@juliehdavis) January 10, 2019Pence pretty handily shot down the Graham effort at a deal that would pair wall $ with legal status for DACA, TPS recipients, saying POTUS has been clear he wants to wait until Supreme Court sustains his decision to end DACA to address that & other issues
— Julie Davis (@juliehdavis) January 10, 2019My only remaining take on Pence here, because he is not this stupid: He is trying to appear doggedly loyal to Trump to the last, so he can take his place when the time comes with minimal pushback.
Nancy Pelosi, just now:
— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) January 10, 2019
"I think the meeting was a setup so he could walk out."
My bet is this is correct. Everything on the wall and Mueller probe right now is about creating the appearance of manly action, the appearance of taking control: https://t.co/mgxSuUI0L00 -
Backed into a corner:
Moments ago on the Senate floor, Ben Cardin asked for unanimous consent from all senators to pass one of the House-approved bills to reopen the government.
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) January 10, 2019
Mitch McConnell objected, calling the House-passed bills "an absolutely pointless show vote." Via ABC pic.twitter.com/Ad3vWaHb59Today, the FBI Agents Association sent a petition to the White House and Congressional Leaders signed by representatives of all FBI Agent Association field offices across the country warning of the effect of the continued government shutdown on Agents and their work. pic.twitter.com/22u62CXZRp
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) January 10, 20190 -
That Raiders of the Lost Ark gag is great.
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TRUMP: "When during the campaign I would say Mexico is going to pay for [the wall], obviously I never meant they are going to write out a check. I said they are are going to pay for it. They are. They are paying for it w/the incredible [unapproved] deal we made called the USMCA." pic.twitter.com/YVCrSQty2v
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 10, 2019REPORTER: If this is a national emergency, why haven't you delcared it?
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 10, 2019
TRUMP: "Because I would like to do the deal through Congress and because it makes sense to do it through Congress. But the easy route is for me call a national emergency and do it." pic.twitter.com/Hg9vuYO5BwREPORTER: Mr President, there are pictures this morning showing steel barrier wall being sawed right through. What good is it?
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 10, 2019
TRUMP: "Well, that's a wall that was designed by previous administrations. There is nothing that can't be penetrated, but you fix it." pic.twitter.com/fpPwP9A759Trump says he thinks "there is far more pressure" on Democrats than him to end the shutdown because "the people of our country want security." pic.twitter.com/VBkmdfH41x
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 10, 2019TRUMP: "The Democrats, which I've been saying all along, they don't give a damn about crime... They don't care about gang members coming in and stabbing people and cutting people up." pic.twitter.com/N2D4xnQqZI
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 10, 2019TRUMP: "The buck stops with everybody."
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 10, 2019
"The Democrats don't care about crime. They've been taken over by a group of young people that frankly, in some cases, I think they're crazy." pic.twitter.com/h46zuAAfcNTrump says he "didn't know anything" about his former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, sharing polling data with a person connected to Russian intelligence pic.twitter.com/wgbHsTh3vD
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 10, 20190 -
LOL:
AP has now issued another statement about that "two to tango" tweet: pic.twitter.com/n8NLqgxBRS
— ErikWemple (@ErikWemple) January 9, 20190 -
Democratic Leaders emerge from WH saying Pres Trump slammed the table and walked out of their meeting, when Pelosi said she won't agree to a border wall. "Then we have nothing to talk about," Schumer quoted the president as saying. pic.twitter.com/f3CpKILugm
— Mark Knoller (@markknoller) January 9, 2019And now, Trump's expected avenue for escape and failure while claiming 'victory':
Been discussing this off-ramp awhile. POTUS has been pulled in a few different directions, including by conservative supporters who don’t think this is a good way to go. https://t.co/QaX9Qcfe00
— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) January 9, 2019Trump thought he was “getting Roger.” @katierogers and @maggieNYT on the man he has: Bill Shine. https://t.co/jufbWMbNzd
— Annie Karni (@anniekarni) January 10, 20190 -
Trump on the political implications of caving on shutdown: "If I did something that was foolish, like gave up on border security, the first ones that would hit me are my Senators... The second ones would be the House. And the third ones would be frankly my base."
— Ryan Struyk (@ryanstruyk) January 9, 2019Trump’s message to Senate Republicans, per Rubio, was “Stick together.” POTUS also said declaring a nation emergency remained an option
— Seung Min Kim (@seungminkim) January 9, 20190 -
The GOP negotiating position on the wall debacle is getting really pitiful. "Please negotiate. Please get us out of this. We need to help President Trump out of this." pic.twitter.com/S3tBw6ZBXI
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) January 9, 2019Asked @AP about that much-criticized tweet promoting a fact-check on the shutdown and got this statement from a spox. https://t.co/B1ywSIWY4D pic.twitter.com/tASfHjZW33
— ErikWemple (@ErikWemple) January 9, 2019And the unkindest cut of all for Donald:
Last night’s Democratic response (9:15-9:30) outrated the POTUS address (9-9:15) by +26% on CNN, +15% on MSNBC, +3% on ABC.
— Michael Mulvihill (@mulvihill79) January 9, 2019
POTUS speech outrated Dem response by +3% on CBS.
The two rated equally on NBC, FOX, FNC.0 -
Will Kevin McCarthy, a California native and close Trump ally, step in here? History suggests no. https://t.co/OUg1WRRub3
— adam nagourney (@adamnagourney) January 9, 2019Acting Sec Def Pat Shanahan, Boeing alum, is supposed to be recused from matters relating to his old company. But he’s praised Boeing and dumped on rival Lockheed Martin in high-level Pentagon conversations, two people who’ve heard the remarks tell us - https://t.co/reyLp13qjB
— Eliana Johnson (@elianayjohnson) January 9, 2019— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) January 9, 2019
Among the many federal employees who likely won't get their paycheck on Friday: the U.S. Marshals guarding El Chapo. @LeonardGreene https://t.co/5bjcSEe38j
— Stephen Brown (@PPVSRB) January 9, 2019Big problem for White House right now: Cracks multiplying in GOP ranks on Capitol Hill over shutdown and Trump’s wall demand. https://t.co/1yg4CO4ob6
— Philip Rucker (@PhilipRucker) January 9, 2019“... low energy.” https://t.co/2gWf13TkZ1
— Michael Kruse (@michaelkruse) January 9, 2019New warning signs for Trump and the White House as Senate Republicans offer tepid support for WH strategy, and clear warnings of a revolt if shutdown lasts indefinitely. Capito calls shutdown “useless” and says "that pressure is going to build." https://t.co/sX2dfhAl34
— Manu Raju (@mkraju) January 9, 2019wow lots of incentive for Democrats to play ball here https://t.co/fp6eHUvNhc
— Simon Maloy (@SimonMaloy) January 9, 2019Hello.
— (((Yair Rosenberg))) (@Yair_Rosenberg) January 9, 2019
A Nazi took a photo of a baby, put a swastika on its forehead, made a Twitter account for it, and called it my son.
Twitter says this isn't targeted harassment and doesn't violate its terms of service. pic.twitter.com/QfAIFIzfhrAaannd it's suspended. Good to know that all it takes to get a Nazi posing as your kid suspended is a Twitter account with 60k followers and a public shaming campaign. Seems like a reasonable system. https://t.co/queiay8hQj
— (((Yair Rosenberg))) (@Yair_Rosenberg) January 9, 2019Adam Kinzinger, who voted against Democratic efforts to reopen government last week, says today: "If it's an agreeable bill, I'll open as much government as we can," railing on the "stupid shutdown idiocy cycle" and calling on both sides to cut a deal pic.twitter.com/sha5cax1XY
— Manu Raju (@mkraju) January 9, 2019While he wanted to hear more from Trump, Boozman added this about federal workers caught up in the standoff: "We don't need to hold them hostage." Rubio said he wants to see how the bills are structured first, but said he “potentially” could back opening govt with no border deal https://t.co/uLOKm85Mfx
— Manu Raju (@mkraju) January 9, 20190 -
The memes about Chuck and Nancy were plentiful, yes, but that didn't stop the coverage of Trump from being brutally negative. Bottom line: He failed in his last hail mary.
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Roger Ailes was a sleazy, evil, sexually deviant piece of human excrement. He was also was a genius at the medium of television. The new subscription service Fox Nation, that looks like closed circuit TV from the 70’s must have him rolling in his coffin in Hell.
— Kenneth Jimenez (@MrKennyJimenez) January 9, 2019Reuters/Ipsos poll
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) January 9, 2019
• 51% blame Trump for the shutdown
• 32% blame Democrats
• 7% blame Republicanshttps://t.co/x8RHCqqO2JAnd this is before paychecks stop coming, etc.
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Does anything capture the weakness of Trump’s hand on #BorderWall better than a first term D from a previously R district in suburban Dallas, not LA or CHI, feeling comfortable opposing it this firmly? https://t.co/uOj5xdGrDl
— Ronald Brownstein (@RonBrownstein) January 9, 20190 -
WATCH: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez delivers impassioned response to President Trump’s address: “The president should be really defending why we are funding [ICE] at all … right now, what we are seeing, is death.” pic.twitter.com/4Al4GLWUvB
— MSNBC (@MSNBC) January 9, 20190 -
HOLY [!@#$%^&*] >>> "Mr. Manafort asked Mr. Gates to tell Mr. Kilimnik to pass the data to Oleg V. Deripaska." https://t.co/ZeNqv0i2F6 pic.twitter.com/83NHmUf6G3
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) January 9, 2019I'd say this dramatically ups the ante https://t.co/b9Tu91dyw8
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) January 9, 2019I think the full meaning and impact of the Times revelation about that polling data hasn't sunk in yet. Trump's campaign manager was secretly sharing confidential campaign polling data with oligarch closely tied to Vladimir Putin. Probably bigger than Trump Tower meeting.
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) January 9, 20190 -
Toldja:
Trump didn’t want to give the speech tonight and told TV anchors at lunch today that his planned trip to the border is a waste of time. https://t.co/GFnpFnH8Tt
— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) January 9, 201914 minutes ago, DRW50 said:I think it's less about the public being won over and more about the Republicans staying in line and the media doing their usual handstands.
This isn't going to keep the GOP in line. It wasn't good and they're already defecting. The media is mostly unimpressed.
From the above:
Yet privately, Mr. Trump dismissed his own new strategy as pointless. In an off-the-record lunch with television anchors hours before the address, he made clear in blunt terms that he was not inclined to give the speech or go to Texas, but was talked into it by advisers, according to two people briefed on the discussion who asked not to be identified sharing details.
“It’s not going to change a damn thing, but I’m still doing it,” Mr. Trump said of the trip to the border, according to one of the people, who was in the room. The border trip was just a photo opportunity, he said. “But,” he added, gesturing at his communications aides, Bill Shine, Sarah Huckabee Sanders and Kellyanne Conway, “these people behind you say it’s worth it.”
I knew he'd do this, but I didn't know he'd do it preemptively. The next 48 hour will be full of public and private disasters because this went bad. He's so predictable.
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As long as she keeps learning I'll give her another chance. She did well on 60 Minutes for the most part (and won over my mother, who had her fill of the radical fringe when she was one of them in '68).
Meanwhile, Bernie's ego-grabbing speech focused largely on (wait for it) economic inequality.
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I can't stop thinking about Jared Kushner personally calling House Republicans today telling them that public opinion was going to sweep in the Wall's direction after Trump's speech. https://t.co/6gar3js2wy
— Ezra Klein (@ezraklein) January 9, 20190
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The way to stop it is clear: Trump declares an emergency to get his wall, the Democrats immediately sue (as they've said they'll do) and it gets tied up in court while the government reopens and no wall ever is actually made.
That is Trump's only out: He loses, but tells his base "it's coming" and that he didn't lose. It's what has been circling the table for several days and any second now he will likely do it. Either way, he's lost.