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  1. 51 minutes ago, Toups said:

     

    Same here, as an outsider looking in.  Please, America, don't make the biggest political mistake ever by electing Trump.  

     

    Where you based, Toups? I'm in Melbourne Australia here, and totally #withher!

  2. 14 hours ago, Vee said:

    And watching Brian Williams make Mark Halperin eat shìt as Nicolle Wallace and Steve Schmidt watched with glee - I never thought I'd see that.

     

    Oh my god yes, when did this happen? I would love to watch this!

  3. Hey everyone, here's the last I have of January '06: 

    Sheila's Final Episode:

     

    How coincidental that it has now been pretty much exactly TEN YEARS since these episodes originally aired! Crazy times indeed!

    Here's an episode I never posted yet from September 20,1990

    I don't know if some of you guys remember, but I had only the first few seconds of this episode that came on after the 9/19/90 episode, but it turns out the full episode was available after all which I was happy to get!

    Thank you for posting this! I watched this last night, and it was a joy to watch. A few questions and observations that arose for me after this:

    • So Nikki was pregnant with Jack's baby but for some reason didn't actually want the baby (was it because she still wanted Victor?)Also, was this the baby that she lost in the riding accident that in turn caused her to become addicted to pain killers?
    • Traci coming back to claim Brad, but he was dating Ashley. So eager to find out what happened at that dinner date (did Brad and/or Ashley end up telling Traci about the two of them?)
    • Danny being set up by the drug stash - correct me if I'm wrong, but this was one of David Kimble's devious plans? Also, was it explained what was with that detective's attitude towards musicians in general? (that came across really suss to me).
    • Rex and Leanna???? They were a thing???
    • Jill, John and Kay. It was actually nice to see Jill and John trying to reconnect and reconsider getting back together. I know they eventually remarried 2-3 years later, but did anything come between them in the meantime?
    • And that conversation between John and Ashley - so beautiful to see Ashley be happy for her dad and supportive of his choices.

    Your very welcome! :) I'm working on getting some more dates as we speak......there's some more 1993 that I saw was newly listed from my usual seller that I have been wanting to get so I hope to get those dates soon! :)

    This was the baby that Nikki lost while riding the horse leading to her addiction....(I posted the October 1990 episodes showing all that) I think she wanted the baby but it was more of wanting Victor back more.....if wasn't really till after this miscarriage she developed real feelings for Jack as he had already done too....(at least for a couple years)

    I know Traci found out eventually, but I don't have any dates showing how she did.......hopefully down the road....I personally would have stayed with Brad if I were Ashley, but I always thought Brenda Epperson and Don Diamont looked hot together, LOL

    Yes David framed Danny to prevent him from going to Newark with Cricket.....He was afraid that while they were originally going there to get engaged, they were also going there to fix Nina's brooch (or something like that) that David had given Nina as a wedding gift.....the brooch originally belonged to David's first wife who he killed and I guess he figured that Danny and Cricket would uncover evidence from the Brooch that it was originally from his first dead wife, totally busting David in the process.....(I might be missing some details but it's been a while since I watched the episodes LOL)

    I'm totally with you with that detective.....ugh......he's such a smug SOB.......I know this was an example of Bill Bell showing backlash people can get, but he did it sometimes in such a way where he makes all those side characters come out like jerks....and what annoys me is that I don't think this dude even apologized to Danny after he was cleared of the charges.....not that he wouldn't still feel like he had too cause of his opinion of rock and roll (which in a way is understandable especially from that time) but he was just a prick to all of them........I don't know why but it always annoys me when you have those type of characters who always (mostly recurring lawyers/detectives) go after all the good guys and never realizing or at least the show letting them realize they have been doped by the bad guys.......This detective never knowing (at least not in my episodes) Danny was framed and then that nasty Glenn Richards guy who went after Nina for shooting David.

     

    Thanks for the reply. Always great to know some of the backstory behind these episodes!

  4. Here's an episode I never posted yet from September 20,1990

    I don't know if some of you guys remember, but I had only the first few seconds of this episode that came on after the 9/19/90 episode, but it turns out the full episode was available after all which I was happy to get!

    Thank you for posting this! I watched this last night, and it was a joy to watch. A few questions and observations that arose for me after this:

    • So Nikki was pregnant with Jack's baby but for some reason didn't actually want the baby (was it because she still wanted Victor?)Also, was this the baby that she lost in the riding accident that in turn caused her to become addicted to pain killers?
    • Traci coming back to claim Brad, but he was dating Ashley. So eager to find out what happened at that dinner date (did Brad and/or Ashley end up telling Traci about the two of them?)
    • Danny being set up by the drug stash - correct me if I'm wrong, but this was one of David Kimble's devious plans? Also, was it explained what was with that detective's attitude towards musicians in general? (that came across really suss to me).
    • Rex and Leanna???? They were a thing???
    • Jill, John and Kay. It was actually nice to see Jill and John trying to reconnect and reconsider getting back together. I know they eventually remarried 2-3 years later, but did anything come between them in the meantime?
    • And that conversation between John and Ashley - so beautiful to see Ashley be happy for her dad and supportive of his choices.
  5. I'd love to see them if it is possible!! ^_^ Ryan was more similar to Brad in a way except lacking the extra sleaze and sarcasm that made Brad memorable. 

     

    Not sure if it was Bergman's clause or not or had started under Lester. Of course in the '80s it seemed that pregnancy on Y&R often resulted in disaster anyways: Patty's miscarriage, Patty being the cause behind Traci's miscarriage with Tim Sullivan's kid, Jill's miscarriage, Faren's abrupt miscarriage, Lauren's miscarriage while buried alive, Ashley's abortion, and Traci's miscarriage in the wake of Brad's disappearance. 

     

    I figured as much a character like John III/Jack Jr. would be more like Victor and hence a rival to Nick than anything else. I actually almost wish Stephen Lassiter and Ashley would have had a kid together just so Ashley would have had another kid. 

    *Patty* caused Traci's first miscarriage?? How did this happen? I love this thread because it reveals so many little details that we usually don't read about in general synopses...

    And OMG @ Lauren's while buried alive - that must have been totally gruesome to watch!

  6. It's funny cause of the Eve/Julia,Victor,Nikki scenes are already on youtube (I think posted from that same montage) but this is the most of Deborah Adair Jill I have scene.....I didn't even know they had brought a young Phillip back so he could meet his mother's new husband.....In the next set of clips is a scene where BD Jill calls a slightly older Phillip wanting him to come home for Christmas but he refuses....It was a sad scene yet understanding as you could see Jill clearly did not want her own son around during that time...

    I do believe that was Leslie's final scene which was a surprise to see! I think I read that she was the last Brooks sister to leave the show that time, though Stuart still stuck around a little after the show's 10th anniversary....

    I always have that same thought about Danny, that I can't believe he was on that many years.....

    I always wonder why Jill felt so detached from her son like that in the early years... Very heart breaking to watch at times.

    I'm also guessing that Lorie's departure was when Leslie and Lance got engaged and she went on that cruise that Victor organised?

    Eve and her boyfriend Max were trying to kill Victor, he figured this out and with Julia faked his death to trap Eve. This was around 1983. Max died and Eve got sent to a mental institution.

    • Lorie Brooks and Vanessa Prentiss! And the courtroom scenes! So full on! Poor Lucas though :( Was Lance still on at this stage?

    Yep Lance was on and he went back and forth on believing Lori's innocence so Victor sneakily took over Prentiss as revenge

    • All the scenes with Dina, particularly against Brenda Jill. But the stuff that really stood out for me here was Dina and Ashley. Geez, Ashley HATED her mother with a passion, particularly that hospital room scene (I'm guessing Tracy was in the bed? What was the story there?)

    Yes Ashley hated her mother, especially for the way she felt she treated Traci, who always felt like the ugly duckling, and felt Dina was harsh on her because of her weight. Traci tried to get thin on slimming pills (this was when she and Lauren were fighting over Danny) and Overdosed. That's why she was in the hospital.

    • Speaking of wedding ceremonies, lovely to see snippets of Victor/Nikki #1. Side question: had Ashley become involved with the storyline by that stage?

    Not really. I don't really remember that well, but her involvement with Victor really began after she lost her mind from finding out John wasn't her father, they may have been friendly before this though.

    • And lastly, Jill's car accident and Jack coming to her rescue - was that the lead up to THE hook-up scene with the Lindsay Wells photo and ensuing Katherine blackmail?

    Yep that was the lead up, the whole scene is on YT, or was and part of the aftermath.

     

    Thank you for all those answers above! A lot of pieces are starting to make sense now :)

    It was interesting when Deborah returned for a week or so during one of Brenda's  ' illnesses' and had to play Jill's divorce from John,She immediately brought more depth to the character.

    :lol:

    All the Abbott kids took Dina's absence really hard but Dina's abandonment was particularly tough on Ashley because when Dina left Ashley was JUST old enough to really miss her AND because it nearly destroyed John.

     

    Brenda's second run had had a lot of problems.

     

    She was NOT happy about Jill's divorce from John nor was she thrilled about being part of an ensemble (both of which affected her on screen performance).

     

    Those two issues coupled with Y&R wanting Jill to be their version of Alexis Carrington effectively killed Jill as a character until Jess arrived.

    I would LOVE to see the storyline with the reveal of Brent Davis as Ashley's father, particularly the interactions of Ashley and Dina (that would have been dynamite to watch at the time, especially from Eileen Davidson).

    When you say "being part of an ensemble" in this context, do you mean that Brenda just didn't like being a team player?

     

    Incidentally I am curious to know whether Deborah Adair and Jamie Lyn Bauer had any scenes together on Y&R in the early 80s. As many DOOL fans here would know, they played enemies in the early 90s in the form of Kate Roberts and Laura Horton (and I loved that storyline BTW, even though it was a complete retcon of an earlier storyline).

     

    The child actor who played Chuckie was miles ahead of David Hasselhoff. I wonder why Bell never thought to bring back Chuckie in the '90s to give Jill some nephew she could control. 

     

    It also brings to mind whether there was still any acknowledgement of the sibling relationship between Snapper and Jill at that stage (early 80s). David Hasselhoff and Deborah Adair would have been fascinating to watch. Even Hasselhoff and Dickson to another extent.

  7. Here's another Compilation with various scenes from 1980-1985, also includes some rare clips of Deborah Adair as Jill!

    Merry Christmas! :)

    This is a crazy set of clips! Thank you so much for posting these! Some things for me that sprung to mind when watching (and also some questions that popped up):

    • All the stuff with Eve Howard! I had no idea Julia Newman was involved in this as well! Quick few questions... What was going on with Victor's supposed "death" in those clips? Was he faking it for some reason? I loved that confrontation between Nikki and Eve - that was pure soap.
    • Lorie Brooks and Vanessa Prentiss! And the courtroom scenes! So full on! Poor Lucas though :( Was Lance still on at this stage?
    • On a related note, a farewell scene between Stuart and Leslie. Was this Leslie's final farewell from Y&R?
    • The scenes with Jill and little Phillip - you could see the seeds being sown already for all the late 80s stuff with him, Cricket and Nina. Sounds like Phillip already hated his mother a great deal even as a young kid. It was implied that Jill had had a few boyfriends prior to that - was that actually the case? As an aside, very bizarre seeing Deborah Adair playing Jill here - quite understated, very human in fact (compared to what we would later see in the compilation with Brenda Dickson).
    • Still on Jill for a moment - what was the story behind her and Stuart Brooks?? And also really fascinating to compare 70s Brenda with 80s Brenda in those clips?
    • All the scenes with Dina, particularly against Brenda Jill. But the stuff that really stood out for me here was Dina and Ashley. Geez, Ashley HATED her mother with a passion, particularly that hospital room scene (I'm guessing Tracy was in the bed? What was the story there?)
    • I also had no idea that Danny Romalotti was even on back in those days - and in storyline with Patti Williams?? I must admit I had a big WTF moment when I saw that clip with Michael Damian and Andrea Evans.
    • I gather it was Andrea's Patti that shot Jack. But it looked like it was a different Patti that married Jack in the first place (and was that Danny looking on wistfully in the crowd during the wedding ceremony)?
    • Speaking of wedding ceremonies, lovely to see snippets of Victor/Nikki #1. Side question: had Ashley become involved with the storyline by that stage?
    • Nikki cradling Victoria after she fell down the stairs - so sad! And with Jack coming to the rescue afterwards!
    • And lastly, Jill's car accident and Jack coming to her rescue - was that the lead up to THE hook-up scene with the Lindsay Wells photo and ensuing Katherine blackmail?

    Once again, a mega thank you for all these clips! Amazing to watch :)

  8. Yes, Billy's attitude toward Reva was to cover up his feelings, however, even in real life if your ex wife tried married your elderly father you would have problems. Reva in her first appearances was more of a crafty trashy manipulator then the good time girl with a heart of gold she quickly became.

    That is indeed true, but at the same time, let's not forget that HB essentially bribed Reva into marrying him as he saw she was getting too close to Josh and he wanted her for himself. In saying that though, I believe HB is the only Lewis that accepted Reva for whom she truly was as a person (flaws and all) and did not judge her like everyone else did.

    Also, the impression I got from the late '83/early '84 stuff with Reva was that her character was intended to be a caricature more than anything else, however she gained so much popularity with the audience (not in the least due to Kim Zimmer's amazing work in bringing Reva alive) that the writers started to flesh out her character and past with the Lewises a lot more. There is one awesome scene from the Valentine's Day Masquerade Ball in Feb '84 where Reva and Vanessa teamed up to lock Billy's date away in the storage cupboard. I personally got a kick from watching that, and later observed a number of really heartfelt scenes between those two, particularly when Vanessa was starting to drift away from Billy due to his obsession with getting rid of Reva.

    Did Reva and Vanessa interact much together after that initial period of '84/'85?

  9. Hey there, first time poster here (but long time lurker)!

    Been watching a lot of the 1984 GL clips on YouTube recently, particularly the storyline with Reva and the Lewises. One thing that struck me while watching the clips was how nasty and vitriolic Billy (and Mindy to a lesser extent) was toward Reva, especially when she and HB got married. There were a few instances where it actually got uncomfortable for me to watch at times, he was that nasty to her.

    What I'm trying to figure out is when exactly Billy eventually softened towards Reva, as there aren't really any clips of that on YouTube showing that conversation. Would it have been when Reva had her miscarriage after Vanessa ran her over, or was there something else that I completely overlooked?

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