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  1. Filed under "soaps had money to burn" file:

     

    Perhaps to mark the celebration of the premiere of Santa Barbara ( and their expensive sets) and the fact that ABC soaps were on an abbreviated Olympics schedule

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    DAYS went on remote to New Orleans

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    Whereas AW's remote was in rainy Rye, New York

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    All of which is especially odd when you consider that AW spent the time and money for a remote just when Nancy Fragionne left due to a "snag" in her contract negotiations

     

     

    Also, one hopes that the reporting on Cusi Cram, Beth Maitland, and Laura Malone's weight would not be published in 2021

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  2. 34 minutes ago, Franko said:

    "(Leann's) a total pro, and knows enough to keep her personal life separate from the work we do at the studio."

    Meanwhile nobody mentions that apparently Robert Newman, Bob Woods, and Justin Deas boffed most of their co-stars

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    34 minutes ago, Franko said:

    Kim Delaney-Flohe's on her way out at AMC

    Poor Kim Delaney got caught in the Stephan Ferris (Ferrara)/Steve Blizzard (Fletcher)/Nana Visitor (Tucker)/Charles Flohe (Grant) name change pandemic of 1984

     

  3. In today's news from yesterday:

     

    Soap fans are full of questions about new guy on Capitol

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    but this fan gets straight to the point

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    JMR has the full story on Laura Malone and her "feud" with Chris Rich.  As reported above, Chris and Nancy were "cold" to Laura upon her return from maternity leave, and Chris referred to her replacement as a breath of fresh air.  Both deny actively seeking her replacement, but apparently Laura was interviewed on TV after she was let go and expressed her troubles about the backstage life at AW@will81's scan is too unclear to repost here

     

    Speaking of backstage intrigue regarding co-stars, we get this new bit of info regarding the casting of Kimberly Brady

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    Much like PC from Red Bank, NJ, I hope things work out for Meg Ryan

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    But I'm no so sure about Rick Porter's prospects (What are novelty cosmetics?)

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    And I think we all share CC's concern about AW's Sally's insta-kid, but Lynda thinks that rating justify the retcon. 

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    Finally, much like the Queen herself, Lynda has begun to refer to herself using the royal "we"

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  4. July 1984's entries were like deja vu all over again.

     

    I have always maintained that Q&A's in the soap press are fake.  However 37 years after someone confused soaps with Hemingway in this question

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    Our own @Mitch said this in the Soap You Couldn't Get Into thread

    Sunset Beach..its just played like a parody..kind of like "The Sun Also Rises," instead of a real soap. The actors were plastic, not sexy!

     

    I researched and found that the Carol Burnett Show soap parody was called "As the Stomach Turns" and the SCTV parody was titled "The Days of the Week", so I am unsure of the source of this confusion.

     

     

    And maybe JMR was so snippy about Eileen Fulton's return in this article:

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     Because two weeks earlier he published this comment

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    Finally is it possible that a young Ron Carlavatti was posing as PL from Toluca Lake when he wrote this question to Lynda Hirsch?

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  5. @Chris 2 if you thought the Alec Baldwin material was catty I thought you should see some other fan opinions of the time

     

    I'm tickled both by this fan's derision of a baby actor, and Jon-Michael Reed's admonishment that not everyone can survive in daytime

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    To be fair, Terri Vandenbosch was no Julianne Moore

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    Ryan's Hope fan were also not happy

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    And Lynda Hirsch feels its important to note that even men feel the same way

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    As always Jon-Michael and Lynda are not fans of the Daytime Emmys

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    However, when asked who should win this year Lynda went with James Mitchel. whose plot she derided for weeks prior

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    Then there's this tidbit

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    More off-screen drama - Gloria Loring and Alan Thicke are getting divorced and Tristan Rogers's divorce is messy

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    In other news they retract the Marcy Walker gossip from last week

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  6. Anyone willing to guess from the outset as to the solution to the Charlie murder mystery?

     

    Will it be (a) a Nora Fulon EON situation wherein he was killed to cover up another secret in a coexisting plot, (b) killed by mistake with someone else as the intended victim, or (c) killed by a non-contract character in order to portray Sami, once again, as being wrongly accused of a crime?

     

    Extra points to anyone who can correctly predict how long it is before we find out the killer.

     

    My main concern with any Carlivati mystery is that usually there is no investigation or clues for the audience to play along.  Ron likes to tease a mystery with an explosive start, then nobody does anything to solve the crime for awhile, and finally there is a long expository dump where the whole thing gets explained.  I think he engenders such an adversarial relationship with the audience because he always plays his proverbial hand to close to the vest.  Bell, Slesar, and Marland either let the audience in on the plot early on by showing the killer and how they got caught, or they allowed there to be red herrings and other mystery devices to maintain the suspense.  I find that I can never predict the outcome of a Carlivati mystery because we never get all of the information until the end of the plotline.

     

    In my opinion, the right scenario would be to use the mystery in order to promote the relationship of Nicole and Rafe.  Nicole could suspect her rival Ava, which could interfere with Rafe's solving the crime.  Sami and John could get over their years of animosity by helping prove each other was innocent.  The secrets of the gambling ring could be blamed for the murder and it could all culminate in a takedown of the Vittali family, creating ongoing issues for Tripp, Ali, and Claire. 

  7. 1 hour ago, FrenchBug82 said:

    Not quite the same skill set.
    I am not defending cue cards; I think soaps should hire people who can do the above over giving them crutches. But the comparison with theater seems unfair to me.

    Agreed

     

    I think it is unfair to judge all actors who used cue cards with the broad stroke of being lazy.  As I mentioned on the prior page, soap scripts were notoriously rewritten at the last minute.  The single take nature of soap production may have relied on cue cards to maintain an efficient production.  Actors who deride cue cards in interviews are generally not talented enough to be able to read and act at the same time.  And, most soaps could no longer afford them as a luxury, so it is not a contemporary issue.

  8. Its a shame that no writer was able to successfully integrate Silver into a long term character.  Con artist Silver was so great at playing an All About Eve storyline with Erica, and while the long term potential as a thorn in Erica's side was intriguing, at some point there would have been a detente, which would have weakened both characters, making her redundant with the role that Kendall played in Erica's story later in the series.  Then, we had mousy Silver aka Noelle.  She was interesting contrast to Erica because she was so earnest while Erica was so flamboyant.  However, that contrast was later played out with the adult Bianca.  Finally, we had the recast Silver, who went from victim to psycho on a dime and could never sustain as a character over time.

     

    I like the idea of Silver in terms of what Erica might have been if she was not raised by Mona.  Silver had the capacity to be all of the self-centered parts of Erica, that wouldn't have been tempered by the relationship with Mona.  Mona was so intriguing to me because despite her patrician exterior, she had a history on the cabaret circuit, her best friend was Nick Davis (who, if I remember correctly, Mona suspected might have been Erica's actual father), and she wound up married to one of the richest guys in Pine Valley without really trying.  She was critical of Erica, but also she understood that her daughter was living out the life that she may have wanted for herself, if she had not been hurt by Eric.  The constant finger wagging kept Erica in line and reminded her that she deserved more than just being an object of men's desires.  Silver grew up with Goldie, who was never able to achieve a successful relationship after Eric Kane.  Goldie was such a narcissist that she named her daughter after herself, and then used her as a means of scoring an inheritance that she wrongly felt she deserved.   Silver should have been an interesting contrast to what might have been if Erica was left to her devices. 

     

    In the end, I guess most of the likely stories for Silver got played out by Bianca, Kendall, and even Brooke/Barbara.  But, I can't help but think about the lost potential of Erica having an ongoing sibling rivalry. 

  9. @will81's Tumblr The Soaps of Yesterday is so juicy I thought we should have a place to discuss these older news stories (both personal and professional) - https://thesoapsofyesterday-blog-blog.tumblr.com/

     

    1.  Remember when soaps had money to burn?  Weddings in 1984 were very expensive affairs with $10,000 to $20,000 spent on the dresses alone!

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    2.  But off-screen marriages did not go as smoothly for Marcy Walker or Alec Baldwin

     

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    I think Janine Turner's southern accent was real

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    3.  I had always though there was more to this story

     

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    But, apparently it coincided with an overall cast exit from SFT

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    4.  And finally, one of my favorite soap gossip stories of all time

     

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    @Franko I hope this is the beginning of a beautiful threadship

     

  10. 23 minutes ago, FrenchBug82 said:

    Having him just go would have done a disservice to what was a great love story with Greenlee - couldn't simply end it like that and leave; it needed to be dramatic - and having him be just out there would have sabotaged any future relationship Greenlee may have on the show before it even began.

    I agree, one of the great unknowns in soaps is which characters who were one part of a supercouple could survive on their own.  For example, in my opinion, DAYS Hope really suffered as a character without a resolution regarding Bo, whereas GH's Felicia went on to a number of successful pairings after Frisco left town. 

  11. 1 hour ago, AbcNbc247 said:

    And some random guy just showed up at her apartment and turned her into Stan.

    I guess that makes more sense, given that Sami is certainly not a makeup expert.  I had forgotten that detail.  Sometimes the recall abilities of other fans causes a "Roseanne Rosanadana Moment" (ha)

  12. Regardless of the writer, you have to admit that it is pretty impressive that Sami Brady, a woman with no formal education or training, could create a disguise that intricate.  I mean even Stefano and Rolf had to resort to hiding in the shadows.  They wish that they could have gone undercover with such good makeup and prosthetics.  

  13. 49 minutes ago, ghfan89 said:

    Lars goes overboard after a fight with Palmer, falls in the water with an American flag toward the end of the video

    That was just as silly as the critics at the time complained about.  Palmer's motivation in that plot makes no sense.  I think Daisy was using Lars as a romantic rival, but it hardly warranted Palmer going to South America with Erica to investigate on his own (given that Palmer had never previously been a man of adventure).

     

    Why would he host an engagement party for Jenny and Tony?  Why wasn't Nina invited?  What's up with the stunt doubles who were two feet taller than the actors?  What was Lars's plan if he won the fight, there are a dozen other people on board (mostly younger and more virile that Palmer), would he take everyone hostage and try to navigate that small yacht all the way back to South America?  And who directed Jack Betts to use that bizarre facial expression when he fell off the boat? 

     

    Given all that, it is hard to believe that anyone allowed AMC to revisit the subject of Nazi art years later, only this time Palmer was dealing in contraband.  If Courtland Electronics needed some extra cash they should have sold the yacht.

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