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4-18

Just ugh!!! What is Danny and Christine still doing in town? The more the writers stall on them going on their trip...the more the Giggly Heffa is going to mess it up. Speaking of her, I giggled at her not knowing NONE of the Newmans' business with Claire and Jordan. And really giggled at Nate checking her about being nosy about C-W business.

I...am liking Scorned Lily. Even if it blows up in her face, I admit that she's giving people the business. Because I too was tired of (even if he's right) Billy making it all about himself. 

I was happy to see an Ashley sighting this week because this week is not feeling at all as great as last week's 'masterpiece.' I guess it says something when one A story is better than the 'other' A story. Because the Harrison drama has been just as good, but perhaps it's the last of beat hitting for me or more off-screen happenings. 

5 minutes ago, BoldRestless said:

Amen. You can feel Adam and Devon's visceral hate when Billy walks into a room. I feel the same way. Dude walks around pretending to give everybody therapy because he's so screwed up and thinks he can pass along life lessons. I wish he would STFU. I can't stand him.

OMG yes! I couldn't care less for Adam, but even I was Team Adam when he basically told Billy to GTFO when he and Chelesa was about to talk to the doctor about Connor. And I don't even like the Connor story, but that story too feels like 'must give Billy something to do'

Well, JG definitely loves to give all the stories Sharon SHOULD be having to HIS heroine Chelesa. 

9 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Obviously lol.

Yeah, I hated the slanted writing for Carly vs. Nina.   I do believe Carly does know both Jason and Sonny better than most women and does understand them.  Instead of letting Carly watch the whole Nina/Sonny romance implode like she knew it would,  Carly always had to be 'right'.  Nina was always the designated loser.

It also doesn't help that Sonny acts like he's never know love like this before with EVERY love interest.  

Brenda coming back and Nina slowly losing it would have always been a great story.

lol.   And I trust her ability to get MB to play that particular beat, too.

God, yes. Before Sonny was found, they used to have such great scenes. CW and LW have great adversary chemistry dating all the way back to their GL days. So I was sooooo looking forward to it. And even when Carly stayed losing things to Nina after Sonny returned, the writing was STILL not on Nina's side. And given it's been mentioned in these threads about BTS writer stuff...that makes sense to me now why it was so slanted. Like you, Carly does know Jason and Sonny so well...something the current writers clearly know and see thankfully. But Nina being in town as long as she has been would not just sit there and take Carly's abuse when she would have surely heard all of Carly's history. Nina would be throwing it in her face. Fingers crossed moving forward that happens. 

Oh, no question. If 'All One Has to Do is Nothing and Look Fabulous' was a person...that would be Brenda with her multiple ties to the canvas. Nina would sooo see Carly is a paperweight to the storm that would be Ms. Barrett and lose it, giving CW another award. 

1 minute ago, Contessa Donatella said:

I suspected both Brennan & Valentin being behind it but not carrying it out. 

That was what I thought as well. Pikeman for sure. I would have thought it was Brennan until that conversation him and Val had in the van, but I think now I'm misremembering. 

21 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

The fact is, JM did happen.

He suuuure did. Hottest during the Amensiac story for me. 

20 hours ago, kalbir said:

The real hotness of mid-1990s Y&R was Shemar Moore.

ALSO true. lol.

19 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

Are there any actual fans of this Chancellor-Winters “business” story? It’s completely unwatchable. Not even having Jill and Mamie making appearances can save this story from being a sinking stinker.

Not since Billy joined no. It was a clear case of 'nothing for Billy to do so let's put him in the middle of this story.' The real story is Jill vs Mamie and the repairing of the Winters rift...which Mamie already did. And Jill isn't going to make more big moves in the story then they can let it drop. Cuz Billy is just making it about himself and I rme.

4-19

Yay!!!! FLASHBACKS!!! I was wondering if they were going to do that with Deacon/Lauren.

Though I admit...I am conflicted...isn't that scene from 2005/6 when Tom had Lauren/Sheila trapped? And didn't Sugar come later on because Sheila went to the surgeons at the end of that stint?

20 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

Steffy was thirsty for those hot abs.

She wasn't alone.  

3 hours ago, carolineg said:

I mean, I know Sonny/Nina have some fans and it isn't the worst Sonny pairing, but did ever think it was an endgame pairing?  

Yeah, the story has barely started.  I am just not a fan of the idea.  Execution is key here.

In a word...NO. But you know me well enough to know if GH was cancelled tomorrow what's on my wishlist for Sonny.  And I expect him to BEG.  

In fact...one thing I was hoping for back then was that when Sonny/Nina got together that they would really play that Nina/Carly rivalry versus the slilted writing that came out of it leaning in Carly's direction. During and before Nixon Falls, I felt every scene that was a Carly vs Nina scene, it was even between both of them which is part of the reason I LIVED for their scenes. 

Another thing I was hoping for was that yes, Sonny/Nina would be together for a while. And that the one thing that could break them up...no question...IS BRENDA. Not that she would be around. But I could see Carly giving Nina the Sam-in-an-Elevator Special because it would play on Nina's insecurities and something Carly would do and use. Only for Brenda to FINALLY appear. Or at least that was what I hoped for back when we were getting frequent VM teases. 

I agree re: Heather's redemption. Execution is going to be key. And I have liked the fact they are playing the beats....again going back to mentioning upthread how new writers tend to just do it already, but these writers are slowly threading it into the canvas. Laura and Heather's conversation about the past. People for Heather. People AGAINST Heather...Portia's monologue coming to mind. If the cards are played right, it could be its own umbrella storyline that could actually divide the town. 

Again...I would love to see Heather in a more cunning villainess role because currently there is not one. 

25 minutes ago, Khan said:

And we haven't even found out who killed Austin yet, lol!!

I mean wasn't it made clear that we found out who did that? Though it might have been rewritten by this point. 

2 hours ago, Aragorn said:

The goal is a Hardy-Webber clan revival. Elizabeth will get involved in the Laura-Heather interplay. This is what Liz will be doing after Finn leaves her.

Totally down for that. 

1 hour ago, BetterForgotten said:

They seem to be chem testing Drew with everyone, today with Jordan. Not sure he’s worth this much effort…

Oh, yeah. Nina. Jordan. Willow. His presence around other woman NOT Carly has totally increased since the new writers started. Though it is funny given that the more Jason spreads his wings around town in places that Drew was in (and have done before), how pointless Drew is growing.

1 hour ago, carolineg said:

Idk, I can see some logic in 'redeeming' Heather, but I feel like at this point the character is pretty far gone.  It feels more like a Days of Our Lives story than a GH one.

Well I am not sure about kooky cousin, but I've been saying in the 'redeeming' Heather that she could very well be pulled back toward being cunning again and not over the top. 

Time will tell.

2 hours ago, carolineg said:

t this point,  I can't believe any audience member can invest in Sonny's love life.  I know Sonny/Nina have a few intense, vocal fans, but even the most clueless viewers couldn't possibly think that marriage was going to last.  The energy and screentime for that could have been focused elsewhere.

But I liked Sonny/Nina!!  Though they were (well Sonny was) more interesting post-Nixon Falls because the duality that MB was doing with Mike/Sonny was all over him and clear to see no matter how Sonny tried to hide it. It was fascinating to watch for sure. 

I continue to love the arc and easter eggs they keep pulling from given I was collecting for years and know what they are touching on.

So I gotta mmmmm OZT when I saw the picture.

1 hour ago, Soapsuds said:

Damn!!

Now I am going to have to watch!

Ha!!!

Though his abs have been on display a looooot lately. 

2 hours ago, carolineg said:

Thanks!  The last appearance thus far for my Brenda!  Also probably the best scene of the entire return.  It made no real sense with the story but when you can just feel the illogical longing and love it still gets me.  Also 11 years ago makes me feel old.

Wow. It really has been a loooooooooooong time hasn't it? 

15 hours ago, dragonflies said:

Van Etten apparently pitched the poisoned hip story and PM loved it

I could see that. I feel like PM is going to 'redeem' Heather somewhat. Or least have her be cunning vs just silly cray cray.

Well as long as TSJ keeps that shirt off, it's an experience I don't mind having.  

8 hours ago, NothinButAttitude said:

Y'all heard about the alleged beef between Lisa Barlow and Mary Cosby that Page Six supposedly released? Production or Lisa leaked that Mary called Lisa's youngest son the "r word." Mary put out an IG post saying that Lisa spoke about her son first, which suggests the comment was retaliatory. 

These women are going to end up like Dallas. Season 5 and done. Idiots. All because you have too many people trying to be the top dog. 

I heard! And they quickly moved past it.

And I saw what you did there re: Lisa leaked.

I also feel you are RIGHT. 

4 hours ago, NothinButAttitude said:

TVDeets is saying that these five are returning. Nneka is out. Keiarna isn't being offered a flute. Shooting is supposed to start next week. I say take this with a grain of salt...

I think Keiarna being out was confirmed earlier today. That saddened me because she has seen like a good new addition. 

I can't believe they would aggressively start again (outside of getting to the DUI mess with La Dame) after the backlash from this just-ended season. And not to mention how rare a 5 member HW cast has worked. 

52 minutes ago, 1974mdp said:

I think Nick works better when he's the Newman son who's NOT involved in the family business but has other stuff going on.

Agree. 

4-16

Wow. The introspection of it all. 

I know it's been mentioned, but I've enjoyed all the discussions going on. Easily the highlight has been Laura/Jordan and Maxie/Felicia. 

I know it's been mentioned in here about Laura talking about Sonny. But it was just for me how she articulated herself. It was different. Perhaps it's because I love Laura so I enjoy moments that are just HER. Not her new brothers. Not even plot. But...her. How she's thinking. How she's feeling. Like Anna declaring war on Sonny which made sense even though they had gotten closer in the last few years, Laura just talking about it was just good. There's this one moment that really rang true for me, and that was when Laura said if it had been anyone BUT Sonny...yeah she would have thrown the book at them. And now she just might. I found that refreshingly true. And GF did so well with that. 

Meanwhile, Maxie/Felicia felt more like a mother/daughter conversation than a 'let's get people up to spend on stuff' conversation. And seeing Maxie express how she thinks...how she feels. Again refreshing.

Perhaps it's just because they have been background for so long. And now they have a point of view.

I even liked the TJ/Gregory talk. And it did what I mentioned earlier that I liked...two people I should have realized are connected and then it hit me. Duh. Molly and Alexis. It was just a cute and organic moment. 

Trina sighting! That said...I liked what she said. though I felt it was wasted on Dex and Joss. Speaking of Dex...is that the first time he didn't have his dog tags on?

26 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

Damn!!!

Mmmm Brandon....

Oooo...they are going there!!! Yass!!

5 hours ago, BetterForgotten said:

#WeddingMassacre

lol.

Just now, Soapsuds said:

You're welcome!

4-18

I swear...B&B stay using Y&R characters better (and they look better) than they do on Y&R...LOL!!!

I've been liking this stuff with RJ vs Zende. I guess I can say the actor might look silly, but at least he is trying. And he did seem angry to me. Thought there's been a few moments when ironically he echoed RM's Ridge. For better or for worse. I don't like that it appears that RJ is now going to turn this around on Luna though. But least...movement.

And going back to my first comment...HELLO, LAUREN!!! I was just about to get annoyed that this was a fly-in cameo regardless of next week promos. But I liked how they did Lauren's appearance. They set it up with her checking in on Eric...which I forgot about his being deathly ill. So of course she would come and see. And she got to figure out what was going on. Then she saw Deacon and called him out. And then I realized...duh...Lauren had some history with Sugar...whether the writers acknowledge it or not heehee...so her being the cliffhanger was cool. The fact LAUREN was the cliffhanger. All Deacon has been doing has been hoping to figure out who Sugar is...and now he has someone. Movement.

Well done.

1 minute ago, BoldRestless said:

So male stripper? Haha.

LOL!!!! I didn't mean it and I feel like @Khan would have a better joke using that situation than I, but I still hollered all the same.

1 minute ago, Khan said:

Ladies and gentlemen, you've heard of "Magic Mike"?  Well, now, feast your eyes on "Nick the Stick," lol!

1 minute ago, BoldRestless said:

JM would have worked in the Paul Williams hero archetype. He was good fighting off Cameron and Jordan. A career change at this point wouldn't be credible so they're kind of stuck.

Yeah, I did like the twist of Nick being in on Victor one-upping Jordan and imprisoning her in that room. 

And Genoa City could use the hero type since Chance has left that throne to play work politics. 

2 minutes ago, Khan said:

I wouldn't necessarily do anything different or drastic with Nick, but I would have others in Nick's life gradually realize what we have known for years: that Nick, as played by JM, is, at best, a manchild; an "overgrown frat boy" who's never gonna be the sort of solid, mature businessman and patriarch that his father is/was, but who nevertheless has qualities that others respect and even admire.

That almost sounds like Billy without the low self-esteem issues Billy tends to get...even though Billy is at least a solid businessman.

Oh but that exposure would be delic. So yeah, probably not happening.

2 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

I would love to know what people would do with Nick if they had the power. Fire JM and recast with a more versatile actor who’d be credible as a father to Noah and Summer? Stick him back with Sharon and play him in “Dad to the rescue” stories, maybe with Faith back full time? Drug addiction/traumatic brain injury? Career change? Lean into JM’s fratbro goofiness with more comedic stories? Or just ditch the character entirely or send him away for a while because he’s just not that interesting? 

Y&R doesn’t seem inclined to do any of those options, so they float him in repetitive leading man/business stories are DOA simply to appease JM’s fans. He’s obviously not going anywhere but he feels like dead weight to me. 

An interesting question. 

I personally like seeing him in Dad mode, but even I would be hard pressed to think of anything outside of that simply because any time they have tried to do something with him...it gets walked back. 

Given that he takes after Nikki like Victoria takes after Victor, I would think there is an idea there where a story could be sprung, too. Outside of that, perhaps if Dad Nick actually took a firm dislike to one of his kids's significant other and trouble starts? 

2 minutes ago, Khan said:

Who's to say this - meaning, the recent romp w/ Nina after months of enmity, the possible hooking up with Willow down the road, etc. - isn't all part of Drew's master plan (conceived while imprisoned, perhaps?) to get even with Nina for turning him and Carly into the SEC?

Well...payback is a...has scruff. hehe.