Juliajms

Is it me, or did it take people longer to turn in season one? I swear it took hours for Andrea's sister to turn. Now it seems like they die and turn instantly.

AH. Normally, I don't look at spoilers for this show, but that's a good one.

I wonder if Carol will be a part of the spin off show? I haven't read much about it, but in her interview, I didn't get the impression she was finished.

I think Rick would have taken Carol back to the group, if she insisted on being judged by them as a whole. They both knew that wouldn't have ended well for her. I get that impression because even when she said she wanted to take the girls with her at first, he didn't just shut her down. He told her why that was a bad idea and she basically assented. Not sure if this EW interview with Melissa was posted. http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/11/04/walking-dead-melissa-mcbride-carol-rick/

My feelings are so mixed, but I get why Rick doesn't trust Carol anymore. If you have to lose your humanity to survive is it worth it? Can you trust someone who values survival over everything else? That would be hard to do when they are going rogue.

She did say that they were drowning in their own blood, so I think she also rationalized it as a mercy killing.

I don't even see how something dead could have the flu in the first place, never mind being contagious. I guess the answer is that in a world where the dead can walk anything is possible. That doesn't mean Bob is right though. Not sure how I feel about Carol. If Rick had let her stay, I think it's true that TY would have killed her or demanded her death or banishment anyway. Even if Rick could have kept the secret it might have come out another way. I would have liked Carol to be on the show longer, but I'm ok with how she's leaving. Maybe she'll be back down the road. I hope she does find another group and show people how to survive. I like how many loose canons are on the show. Rick, Bob, Ty all have compromised judgement. God knows what they are going to do moment to moment. Bob is probably more dangerous than Carol, so it's going to be interesting to see what comes from that.

And the way they kill of characters, they aren't going to have the high costs that seasons 8 and beyond often entail for other shows. I keep waiting for NCIS to be crushed for that reason, even though it's the number 1 show, depending on how you look at it.

A few episodes ago they showed us that he didn't like to kill the Walkers at the gate. I agree that they haven't shown us enough of Ty, but I did feel for him and Sasha when they were turned away from the prison last season. Rick was out of his mind, but it just felt so wrong for him to turn decent people out, when it was practically a death sentence.

When she went in and got that picture of Laurie for Carl that changed everything for her character. I think that's when she opened her heart to becoming part of the group and Carl did the same for her.

I think when a black man has a legitimate reason to be angry, he should get to play that whatever stereotypes may exist. I mean, it's not like TY is pissed for the hell of it. Carol killed his GF. Personally, I get where Carol is coming from. These people are living in the end times. I can see where she decided to make the call to try to stop the contagion, even if she didn't have the right. Hell, I can even see how she thought she did have the right. I think she and Hershel are toast this season though. Carol has stepped into Shane land, even if her intentions are much more honorable. I do think she thought she could stop the contagion with those two. It was obviously far too late. I don't think she's going to try to do it again, she probably thought those two were going to die anyway and she might be able to stop the spread. A desperate act doomed to fail and I do think she will die or be shunned for it. It's too bad, she was just getting really interesting.

Rick is the one who really lost control more than Ty. I'm glad the Rick is recovering, but they haven't made it a full recovery, as if nothing had ever happened to him. I didn't realize that Carol was the killer until she knocked over the water barrels, but I believed she was capable of it. I also thought it could be Sasha. Both of them seem like they could be pragmatic enough to try to save the majority by killing.

How is this astonishing in any way? No one in any government is legitimately astonished. The only thing that surprises me is that we haven't been spying on the German Chancellor longer. Allies spy on each other. The U.S. has been caught red handed spying, so now our allies can demand concessions, but they spy on us and we spy on them and that's the way it has been and always will be. I'm getting a big kick out of all of these governments pretending otherwise though. http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/29/politics/nsa-hearing/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

I like the idea of the ACA, but I'll admit I'm concerned about how this is going to play out. If the government hasn't even done enough planning to make the website work, I have to wonder about how the actual implementation of ACA is going to work. You have to figure that there has also been no or little planning for all the extra health care workers we are going to need. I suppose the Republicans would say that it will all come out in the wash. Increased demand will lead to increased supply, but I can't help but think we have gone about all of this in an assed backwards way. The government is mandating an increase in demand, but it's the private sector that is responsible for supply. I guess we can hope that there won't be a true increase in demand, since when someone had an urgent need for care they were getting it, just not using insurance, but I'm not entirely convinced. When I was in my 20's without insurance, I just didn't see anyone for preventative care. I'm glad other young or poor people will get that now, but I also wish that we had planned for it in advance by encouraging medical schools to train more primary care physicians and PA's and such. Since the government can barely manage to stay open, it's probably too much to hope for advanced planning for this type of policy. I do wonder if we are going to regret not going with a single payer system down the road though. I dismiss the idea that we should have stuck with the status quo out of hand. Having people use the ER as their first line of treatment was not working.

I think it's wise to get them comfortable with using weapons at an early age, even if they can't save themselves with the weapon right now. Might as well learn self defense from the cradle in this world.

Yes, that made me cry. She was trying so hard to hold Judith away from her, but Michonne couldn't deny the poor thing the comfort of being held even though it was breaking her heart to give it. Carol has really become hard in certain ways. She's completely right, I think, but it's just interesting to see how she's changed. I think when these characters hit the mental wall they either come back stronger or break completely.

I know what you two mean, in terms of GL being over before it was truly over. I wouldn't want a return to Peapack, but I would take something along the lines of PP. It doesn't look like that's going to be an option though.

I'm having this weird delayed reaction to GL's cancellation tonight. F*ck! I miss this show so much. It's my own fault for refusing to grieve when it ended. I'm like a loved one who refuse to go to the funeral and then freak out a few years later. I just can't accept that I'm never going to see these characters again.

I agree. I actually find the zombies kind of boring, except for scenes like the roof falling in where the characters I know are in direct jeopardy.

That's one thing that makes Carol interesting to me. She's become a very different person. I can't even imagine her standing back and letting her husband beat or bully her now. I thought for sure that she would crumble when Sophia died, but she took it better than Andrea who basically chose to die after her sister's death. Oh, and I'm on board with a Rick/Michonne pairing. I think they might be floating the possibility. Seeing how fans react. I love that she is on the hunt for Phillip. I just pray that when she finds him, she comes out on top.

Yeah. I very much doubt I would have the fortitude to survive the breakdown of society even without Walkers. I used to watch Revolution and I never thought I could make it in that world either. I can only imagine how bad women would have it, especially a pretty young thing like Beth or Maggie. Hell, no!

Yeah. I couldn't see leaving that woman to die as a mercy. It's not like she'd have any real idea that she was with her Walker husband anyway. Damn. I can't blame Rick either though. He was meat to be a good guy. Shane was right about that much. Having the Walkers fall from the roof really brought home the idea that you are never safe.

I had that same thought. Why not shoot out of mercy? Maybe it's just too hard on people to keep killing those they know. Didn't Rick leave that lady alive like she wanted? I wasn't watching carefully, since I found that scene particularly disturbing.

I agree this show could use a bigger budget. AMC financially screwed TWD and Breaking Bad for Mad Men, which I find laughable. Even more so when Kurt Sutter rants about it on Twitter. I actually enjoy Med Men, but it's so obvious that they backed the wrong horse financially. I'm guessing that HBO rethought their policy at some point, after turning down TWD. Just a guess.

When Michonne has her sword at the governor's throat, I just want to scream do it!! So much trouble could have been saved if she had run him through right then and there.