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18 minutes ago, Dion said:

Marlena's brief bout with amnesia and homelessness with Wendy always struck me as a little weird considering how quickly it played out. Usually her perils go on for months and months and months lol.

I guess it was a dramatic way of revealing the pregnancy to the rest of the family and thus prevent her from having a secret abortion as she had planned but I'm sure she'd already decided to keep Belle just before getting mugged.

Yes. It was always so random. Marlena got mugged and knocked in the head and just forgot who she was? Was it Wendy's introduction? It seems weirdly out of place for Marlena's character and that time frame. Marlena already had a ton of story going on. Wendy kept saying she knew Marlena wasn't homeless, so why didn't she do more to help lol. Wendy is actually an interesting character. It might be the fact LV left abruptly, but she had a lot of story possibility and her and Jonah just disappeared one day without resolving any of it lol.

Anyhow, I don't really think there is any suspense in Marlena thinking about abortion. That would never had happened. Her lies to John about the conception date always make me laugh. Was she just hoping John couldn't count and it would all work out for her in 9 months? I could see saying the conception date was later than it was, but not earlier. That seems like a hard lie to get out of. It's an actual a period where Marlena is a bit unlikable, which is interesting. She's deceiving Roman, deceiving John, pretty passive aggressively ending the affair, but still keeping John around, and just letting her 15 year old daughter keep her secret. I don't think we are supposed to think Marlena is unlikable, but she kind of sucks at this point.

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9 minutes ago, Michael said:

That resolution was embarrassing, even for Days. I believe they were in a safehouse, though -- they wanted everyone to think they were dead (I cannot remember why), so they got stashed in some safehouse and spent the whole time canoodling and [!@#$%^&*]. So for a while, they were just hanging around doing nothing. It was only toward the end, when the bomb became known, that the situation was dire.

I'm not sure MarDar's stories were as interfered with as is rumored. It was, as stated above, all setup. They came in with that story of Stefano framing John for stealing employee pensions or something, and it went on for MONTHS and then just ended with, like, Stefano telling the truth and it was over between commercial breaks. Every single thing they wrote wound up like that. It's tough for me to believe there was absolute brilliance planned and then it all wound up so flat and pointless -- we all know Corday gets nervous, but I'd kill to see what these "incredible stories" were supposed to be. We were still operating within the parameters of American daytime drama in 2011-12, after all. I really liked the start of their tenure, and I do think they helped restore the core of the show after the messiness of Higley's final year or so, but it was a sloppy, sloppy show with poor balance and weird callbacks to the past that meant nothing.

I am pretty sure they all wanted Stefano to think they were dead for someone convoluted reason. Someone correct me if I am wrong. I feel like they were in that safehouse forever and were just having the same conversations over and over. I remember we would actually watch Marlena reading a book or Bo playing cards. Riveting.

That pension story was really weird. I still don't understand why that was the story that they brought back Jarlena with. It wasn't terribly exciting, you know John didn't do it, and it just ended with no pay off as you said. Plus they had Austin/Carrie heavily involved and both of them literally had to change entire careers to make it work. Austin is a forensic account now? Sure, why not. Did John ever get his money back? I have to agree with you that MarDar may not be as good as we think. The bones of that story weren't even very good, so interference or not, it wasn't an exciting idea.

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1 minute ago, Vee said:

I didn't say I still was! 😅

I thought the Ned/Alexis interplay about their families worked up to a point. After hearing it 50 times, and then watching the Qs get decimated since then and revisiting his treatment of A.J., it plays differently. It would be nice to see it examined in a script one day, considering Ned has proudly taken on the family name and role of patriarch since then.

Oh, and I remember the whole thing with Alexis somehow ending up an inadvertent sexy centerfold. I loved Nancy especially back then, but come on. No.

I actually think the Lily/Miguel stuff works on paper-it just got lost with those two. I want to say it's more on him than her, but I always thought Lily was after Sonny's peen from the get go and was just a passive aggressive, manipulative bitch about it. I might not be the most objective person on this subject though.🤣 She bought herself a husband and I am still not sad she blew up.

I liked Ned/Alexis a lot. I just think Ned was always pressed about the family and no one really asked him to take on that role. He's just that guy that takes on this role, but wants to complain all the time.

I don't really have a lot to say about Alexis as a centerfold. NLG can still get it, but she's not centerfold material.

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4 minutes ago, Franko said:

I think it was the episode where Brenda took a bath and fantasized about almost all of the available men in town (Ned, Sonny, Jagger and Jason).

Great minds. I just referred to the bathtub fantasy. That's one of my earliest and most vivid soap memories. It helps that VM reminded me of Princess Jasmine from Aladdin. (Tell me you're a millennial without telling me your a millennial ...)

I loved Brenda's little fantasy scenes. It's a fun, whimsical thing soaps don't do anymore.

1 minute ago, Vee said:

I always loved Miguel tbh. Ricky Martin was so hot, I didn't care about anything else lol. I even liked him and Lily! I was like 12.

I liked Ned, because he was witty, Wally's dry delivery was priceless and I enjoyed him with Lois. (I also came in just as the period when he was apparently a true turd was ending.) But it was just embarrassing to watch them try to put Dad Jeans Ned over as a rock star in that particular period in pop music; I can't imagine anyone buying it, and it got worse when the Eddie Maine story kept going with him and Alexis later on and they started hitting a different age demographic, in the late '90s. And then the endless speeches about the evils of the Qs, A.J., etc. got old. I enjoy him much more again now.

The music thing was especially glaring when you looked at OLTL regularly playing serious pop and rock/grunge music on a recurring basis, gritty stuff, and then at 3 PM we're all getting out of school and Ned is trying to pretend he is my mom's old Steve Winwood tapes.

I think you are the only Lily/Miguel fan and I don't judge you. Ricky Martin is a gorgeous man and I was sad he had anti-chemistry with Vanessa. I don't know if I am a total weirdo, but I loved when Miguel/Sonny used to fight in Spanish.

I loved, loved Ned/Lois so I am not going to judge that too harshly. The Eddie's Angels thing lasted way to long, but I like when WK sang at the Nurse's Ball. His singing is fine for a hobby, but he's no rockstar. I also hated the gatekeeper [!@#$%^&*] with Ned/Alexis. Like no one ask you to be that guy Ned....

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Just now, Vee said:

I thought they tested them at least once before that? I know the car scene was also a test.

They had a scene when Jagger was on the run? and she was in his room and Sonny was slightly coming on to her. They also had the docks scene where they 'officially' met. The show was obviously was considering it, but I think testing if it's was too creepy.

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Just now, Franko said:

For better or for worse, it is cool that Labine wasn't married to any one outcome, that she could adapt based on how things were going.

Agreed. I think they were keeping a lot of options open for Brenda, which was wise. I remember that bathtub fantasy and she had like 5 love interests. She was young and fun, so why not?

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5 minutes ago, Vee said:

I am rewatching a lot of '94 and I remember thinking Ned's music was extremely corny even then. Granted I was a kid, but I did not know how he was supposed to take America by storm in the age of grunge. Maybe I just haven't heard enough of it and he was hitting the Michael Bolton ballad zone, idk lol. Ned was an attractive guy and I liked him, he was witty and fun, but WK seemed old and square even then!

I think WK is a good looking guy, but I don't think him and his leather pants were taking the world by storm. Idk, his singing is decent but I think this was when the show was really leaning into musical acts. Ricky Martin's hips don't lie, but WK is not exactly on the same level. I am not embarrassed to say "Don't Stop Now" by Miguel Morez is kind of a jam lol. The video is cringe though.. Vanessa Marcil can do almost anything but dancing might not be in her wheelhouse.

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March 22, 20224 yr ·

Edited March 22, 20224 yr by carolineg

17 minutes ago, Franko said:

A.J./Brenda lasted from the tail end of 1993 into 1994, after Julia left Port Charles. Brenda and Ned also faked a relationship to make A.J. jealous. By February, Brenda moved onto Sonny.

Yeah, I sort of misspoke. I knew the two "relationships" didn't overlap but it was a little close enough to be icky.

7 minutes ago, Vee said:

Sean Kanan and Vanessa had chemistry, I remember that much. I wonder what spurred that, and when they knew they were going for it with her and Sonny.

I assume the plan was actually to pair AJ/Brenda and they just hit pay dirt when Vanessa and Maurice sparked. I always thought Brenda was meant to be with either Jason/AJ because the moved her into the Q mansion.

I believe Labine said the car dealership scenes were supposed to be a one off, but it got such a great response they went with Sonny/Brenda.

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6 minutes ago, Vee said:

God, that's so DAYS. For years running. I just do not understand how this show functions. Every advance has another five steps back with dumb shít like this happening at random on any day of the week.

I don't think these characters would just sit around making out and canoodling instead of trying to help themselves. Well, actually John/Marlena probably would, but Bo and Hope are smarter lol.

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Just now, Khan said:

Exactly. And even if they had, we all had been at that rodeo enough times to know that TPTB would have just resurrected them later. "It's DAYS -- Just Go With It!".

"PLAN TO SAVE DAYS!! JOHN/MARLENA DIE A FIERY DEATH!" *Stay tuned for a November sweeps shocker! They LIVE!!

1 minute ago, beebs said:

I still say Noah's secretly Rafe's, but then that would tie his smug ass to the canvas forever, and I just don't have the spoons for that.

Ugh...I think GG does really good work with kids though. That's probably his acting comfort level...I loved that little kid that played David that was always telling Rafe "no" regardless of the context of the scene. He was adorable.

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1 minute ago, beebs said:

Apparently they were "hiding behind a makeshift bomb wall" that Shane had suggested via walky-talky, to try to protect them from the blast, so they were hiding behind the crappy IKEA couches, presumably, while Rafe professed his undying love to Carrie while tripping over rugs.

I mean, did anyone ever think they were going to kill off John, Marlena, Bo, Hope and Carrie? Lol. People may have been hoping for Rafe to die but we would never be so lucky. I kind of liked Carrie/Rafe so I am going to hide underneath a makeshift bomb wall in shame for now lol. It's like the only person I ever thought Rafe had chemistry with.

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17 minutes ago, beebs said:

I distinctly remember this. I remember Stefano had locked Marlena, John, Rafe, Sami, Austin, Carrie...I'm NOT sure who else, in a cabin somewhere, and rigged the doors and windows, so that if they opened them to try to leave, the cabin would blow up. They spent the whole time panicking that they were all about to die, then about 10 seconds before the timer went off, Rafe tripped over the throw rug, and revealed a trap door, which all of them somehow managed to escape through before the bomb went off. It was...probably one of the most embarrassing things I've seen on this show, and that's saying something.

ETA: Okay I'm not hallucinating. This actually happened.

https://www.soapcentral.com/days-of-our-lives/recaps/2012/120507.php

Bo/Hope were there too. I remember it being pretty funny because they all were resigned to dying and not actively trying to help themselves. Like all the couples were making out and saying goodbye to one another instead of trying to do something about the situation. Didn't they pretend they were dead for a minute as well?

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1 hour ago, Franko said:

Yup, the Jason/Karen/Jagger triangle (and eventually quadrangle with Brenda) was 1992-93. Double-checking the summaries, but I don't think A.J. was involved with that storyline. He was too preocupied with Nikki.

ETA: A.J. wasn't directly involved with the story, but he didn't like Karen for hurting Jason and because she was part of the conspiracy to keep in him the dark about Alan bribing Nikki to leave Port Charles.

I think A.J. was very peripherally involved because he did "date" or try to date Brenda for a minute before she hooked up with Sonny. Wasn't he hooking up with Julia around this time as well?

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38 minutes ago, Vee said:

I doubt they'd have gone there since wasn't she heavily tested or in a triangle with both Alan's sons in '92? Trying to play spoiler to her and Jagger.

OMG! I am stupid. I totally forgot she was hooking up with Jason🤣 I don't think she was ever tested with AJ though. It was just random that Alan/Rhonda had all those scenes.

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2 minutes ago, victoria foxton said:

Days went on location for Bo & Billie's LA adventure. I thought the same thing about Taylor too.

Taylor would always be hanging around. I haven't watched the full show from that era in years, but she randomly pops up all the time in John/Marlena/Roman edits. And she seemed to have a crush on both Roman and Bo, but I always assumed she would hook up with a scorned Roman post affair. I want to say the actress changed a few times as well. I can't find any info on her because it obviously defaults to Taylor Walker in any search, but I think the 'main' actress did a pretty long interview with SOD complaining about her lack of story. Anyway, this is probably for the Days Classic thread. I just always thought she was going to be more important than she was lol.

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1 hour ago, Dion said:

Probably should be in the classic Days thread but I wanted to reply to this

Billie was placed in Bo's orbit much earlier than Curtis' death. Cash - who I think was Billie's dealer - was harassing Billie and Bo defended her. Then Lawrence blackmailed Taylor into helping him set up Bo with a Bo lookalike named Mitch (lol) and Mitch beat up Cash, who named Bo as his attacker. Billie helped Bo through that situation. This was around the same time that Marlena and John were having hot springs shenanigans and then pregnant Marlena had that brief bout of amnesia where she looked after by Wendy who at that time was being played by Lark Voorhies. Anyway Taylor ended up dead (not sure what happened to Mitch in the end).

Shortly afterward Vivian's schemes to frame Carly for a series of killings at the hospital kicked off which eventually resulted in Carly being buried alive. And Billie pretty much swooped in the minute the funeral was over to comfort Bo. Then Billie discovered that Curtis was alive and was the shooter that had shot Rebecca (aiming for Kristen I think?). Curtis then went off to LA but Bo figured out that the shooter had gone to LA so Billie went off to LA in an attempt to warn Curtis before Bo got to him. And so Bo and Billie ended up having an LA adventure whilst Carly had now been dug up but had amnesia and thought she still loved Lawrence. Eventually Bo found out Carly was alive but she left with Lawrence. And then a couple of weeks after that Curtis was murdered.

Thank you for filling in the blanks! I go off memory a lot and am wrong often lol. Literally, none of this rings a bell for me, but I do remember Taylor and thinking the character was going to be more important than she was.

The show seemed to hang on to Carly/Bo longer than necessary and it seemed everyone was tired of it.

I remember Marlena getting mugged going to the abortion clinic and Wendy. Random lol.

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1 hour ago, Vee said:

Speaking of Scott the other day, the Karen twist has always seemed odd to me. Didn't Labine do it at random as Cari Shayne was exiting the show, months after Kin left? Was there even any hint of that before? What was the purpose? Not that it wasn't good for the characters later on, but still.

I thought they were possibly going to make Karen Alan's daughter. They spent a bit of time on Rhonda/Alan and Alan offered to pay for Karen's schooling lol. I am not sure why the rewrite happened but I think Cari Shayne left because ASJ did. I believe it might have been earlier then when her contract was actually up because she only stayed on the show for 2 years and most newbie contracts were 3 back then. Idk, but I think Labine had plans for Karen/Jagger that weren't realized. The show married them off quick and you would assume the plan was to keep them around for Stone's death. So I think there was an actual idea for Scottie/Karen it just got derailed by actor departures.

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5 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

This story is really bad. Johnny devil is cringe worthy. All the fuss to get into the room when he could've turned into Shawn but why bother when everything in the room that was happening was done outside the room. Just stupid as hell! Makes zero sense!!

The best part was the close up of Chandler Massey's hot a$$!! and the make out scenes with Sonny and Will. @Faulkner

The Abby, Chad and Leo scenes were so badly acted.

Craig is just dumb beyond words. Who in their right mind falls for Leo?

I think it's been said that Carson Boatman isn't exactly Marlon Brando, but it has to be hard for even the actors to follow this [!@#$%^&*] show of a story.

I think Deidre and Drake are just good vets and read their lines and say [!@#$%^&*] it, but it's probably hard for newbie actors to understand this mess.

I don't know why Craig would ever fall for Leo. He's gay. He hasn't lost complete sense of his personal taste. Anyhow, I don't feel bad for him. He deserves what he gets.

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48 minutes ago, Vee said:

Does anyone know what exactly the deal was with Ian Buchanan's debacle of a character? Didn't the big reveal of him supposedly being Stefano's 'real son' (and not E.J.) only happen a day or so before McPherson and Thomas left, and then immediately got undone? It all seems so bizarre and unnecessary. I seem to recall some talk of IB being intended as a replacement on the canvas for the ailing Joe Mascolo (good luck!), but I still don't understand what was originally planned there or at what time.

Wait...what? I don't remember this at all. All I remember is him being married to Madison and giggled at the fact Duke/Carly were a former couple.

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This Possession story makes me want to go on a rant about how the initial Possession was high quality art. And I hate the Possession, but there was a story told from beginning, middle, to end. This apparently is my low bar because I don't think any story is being told like that today.

I can't even blame MM for this being bad. Belle's "Possession" should be epic and it's so dull.

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1 minute ago, Gray Bunny said:

Maybe she's got a bunch of those Mattel Marlena Barbie dolls collecting dust in storage that she gives out to new members?

I already have the Marlena barbie and I am not even ashamed to say that lol. It's on display in my dining room like a boss. My family just ignores it. 🤣

It looks like I can get an autographed cook book for 30 bucks from Dee? Nothing about her screams top chef but it's an option lol.

1 minute ago, Soapsuds said:

Awww..the kiss Will gave Sonny on the cheek.😘

So no one is noticing how happy Johnny is during Belle devil talk?

I feel like everyone is ignoring the obvious with Johnny, but Marlena/John are trying to perform an exorcism without religious help so I guess they are distracted.

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March 21, 20224 yr ·

Edited March 21, 20224 yr by carolineg

Yeah, I still don't know why Sonny/Will care this much. It's 2 adults in a relationship now being messed with by 3 other grown men. It seems like a lot of effort for something that's not really that big of a deal. Maybe if they were working with Nancy or something it would make a little more sense?

ETA-the thread title got changed back. I guess we have to talk about current days now.

I guess I will just google how to join Dee's fanclub and the swag she gives out in the meantime lol.

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1 minute ago, AbcNbc247 said:

When RKK took over, Bo was involved in the whole Rafi Torres saga (which I admit, I don't know that much about)

The faux Bo thing happened in the lead up to the Cruise of Deception

The Torres family stuff is generally very boring. Idk if the show had an idea about John/Marlena having an affair back then, but it was basically an excuse for Roman to undercover in a variety of wacky costumes and for Marlena to be pissed at him and to explain Bo's absence. I think the show wanted to make the family the new big bad guys, but the entire family was forgettable.

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