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I agree it was mostly a Dee Hall vanity project tied to her return in 1991, but it wasn't something that was going to happen at the time. It was in development forever, but people were working on it. It didn't die in 1991-it was still being talked about in mags for a few years after that. From what I have pieced together I believe it was slated to replace a struggling AW in 1994-95 ish if picked up. So from my understanding, it would have taken place after the Affair and Belle would have obviously gone with Marlena. I don't think Roman (WN) was ever tied officially to the spinoff. I think his presence was more assumed or discussed by writers/press, but Wayne didn't really have any involvement. As far as Isabella/RoJohn and John's future story-Isabella would have been dead by the time any spinoff would have happened (even if they started developing in 1991) and John/Kristen/Tony would have been the story. Obviously, the show would have been completely different, but I think the focus could have been shifted to Bo/Hope/Billie instead of John/Marlena/Kristen. I think by the time JER honed in on the Possession idea-Manhattan Lives was all but dead except in theory. Why would Deidre even want to leave when she was going to be the main star of the mother show? Anyway, I think the Aremid spinoff was either an alternative idea for an AW replacement to compete against Sunset Beach or an early pre-cursor to JER's Passions. Regardless, AW was picked up and MR left so that's that. I don't think an Aremid spinoff would have ever beaten out a Spelling backed show regardless though. Of course this is all just from things I have read over the years and not a definitive truth, but I think ML was a real concept and the Aremid spinoff was at best an idea.

I have seen Days commercials once or twice while watching other programming on Peacock.

I don't think Sarah was realistically his love interest. I perceived her more as his friend/confidant I didn't get the vibe that Jack had any romantic interest in her. Jack didn't have a lot of friends at the time and I think it was a way to tie a new character to a current cast member and flesh Sarah out a bit. The show appeared to put her in publicity shots with the 'younger' set, so I think there were plans to move Sarah into a more age-appropriate sphere. Once again though I have no idea what the Aremid spinoff was about. At least with Manhattan Lives, we got a rough outline of the story and characters. It appears that spinoff was more fleshed out.

I think JJ's Lucky has been gone long enough for GV to be fine. He played such a different Lucky, but his Lucky is better than no Lucky at all.

I don't really know what the Aremid spinoff would have been about. I only remember hearing about it in one of the mags, but I never recall reading what the premise would be lol. To this day, I have never heard any more details than who would be in it. I guess Peter/Jack/Jen and maybe Laura? would be moved to Aremid. The Parrotman, Rachel Blake, and Sarah weren't very interesting, so I don't know why they were added. I did like Jude St. Clair though.

I think Sarah was going to be part of the Aremid spinoff idea that was floated around before Missy left. I don't recall Sarah having anything to do with Carrie/Austin/Sami/Lucas although they may have shared scenes in passing. I actually don't remember Sami/Lucas even being part of Aremid.

I actually thought that was a pretty clever scene too if not too JER with the lack of subtlety.

Lol! I actually have one in the box that my mom bought for me in 1999/2000. 😬 Good to know there is a market still, but I want to say they were really expensive when they came out. Maybe even more than that lol. There is an Erica Kane one too and I think I have that somewhere as well.

Susan made it for Marlena for her wedding day to John in 2018. She even copied the 1999 dress from their wedding, so it's supposed to be a one-of-a-kind gift. Susan gave it to her on screen back then and Marlena just kept it in a box all these years. So it's odd in that it's a handcrafted doll Susan decided to make as a wedding gift, but it's not a mass market doll others can buy in Salem USA.

Billy's had that heart tat for at least a few months now. I noticed it when he was grieving Abby's death. It's distracting and not my favorite. Rachel is a demon. The actress is a cute little girl though that looks nothing like Brady/Kristen. And can we just take a minute to think about how convoluted Kristen's plan was? Spend lots of time dressing and making herself up to be Susan, pray Brady finds her before the other people living in the house do, make up an entire story about her and EJ, tell another entire story about feeling sad about Susan, and hope Brady sees her in a new light because she shed a few tears? That is so much effort for the most minimal of payoffs lol. I have trouble buying the Kristen evil mastermind narrative when she comes up with idiotic plots like this.

I would have to say 2 returns come to mind for me. Brenda on GH in 2002 and Eileen's 1st return as Kristen on Days.

This really has nothing to do with the current non-topic of Chase/Sasha, but I have been meaning to ask this. What is that creepy giant taxidermy rat in Sonny's office? Is it a Possum? A racoon? Why is it there? I was so distracted looking at it yesterday when Valentin and Sonny were talking lol.

I agree with both of you. There was still story there and it was one of the best stories coming out of that time period. I do agree Ron might have tried to make Jan/Shawn a legit couple too though! It looks like they are heading back to EJ/Nicole which I am not mad about either. That was dropped too quickly as well. I liked the twist today of Eric drinking. And Marlena/John finally working together to figure this Brady/Kristen crap out. Lol at Kristen telling Rachel to call Marlena Grandma Mar Mar!

You touch on a lot of great points on your post. I agree about Rafe. I don't think anyone here likes Rafe, but you're right-it makes Nicole look bad. Objectively, Rafe was a good husband, married her in good faith, repeatedly ask her if she had feelings for Eric, and she lied only to drop him the first moment Eric looked her way again. We all give it a pass because no one was invested in Rafe/Nicole, but it's not a good look for Nicole as a character. I think EJ/Belle got cut off more because of Ali Sweeney leaving than anything else. Shawn/Belle are clearly not a major focus for the writers, but I think Sami vs. Belle over EJ was too good to pass up. Once all those contract issues occurred with Ali (which I still don't get-I thought she was supposed to be on way more than she was) the show just let the triangle/quad die because the show had no investment without Sami.

I'd be okay with Chase/Sasha. I like Sasha a lot and feel she's been mostly wasted. I like Brooklyn/Chase, but this is a case where GH took so long to get there I was almost over it before it began.

Yeah, like I said in last month's thread-today's Eric/Nicole scenes were fantastic. I don't think they get the best writing, but I do think they get some of the best written scenes. I thought their marriage break up was well done too. It's clear someone BTS (or script writer) is a fan. I have a hard time believing Jada got an abortion too, but her emotions seem real. Obviously, I don't think she'd tell Kate the truth, but I didn't get the feeling she was lying. It would be so GH for Days to blow such a big potential storyline though lol. I have to say Shawn/Belle's time really passed about 15 years ago. I don't see them ever being more than secondary characters. Obviously the writers aren't interested and MM and BB are pretty dull. Shawn didn't even get to be on Beyond Salem 2 with his own damn parents lol.

He is, isn't he lol? Since Eric being a priest is a large part of the character I wish they would let him talk about it. It's not clear why he even became a priest or how he feels about the Church. I still feel like it's out of character for him to even enter a casual sexual relationship with Jada without any guilt or at least some reflection. As far as today, the Eric/Nicole scenes were great! They touched on a lot of issues I have had with Eric/Nicole-i.e. nothing about either has really changed since they broke up the last time. I am glad Nicole didn't get full blame for Jada's decision. Nicole was manipulative but she doesn't bear the responsibility of another grown woman's decision. I am not sure how I feel about Kate/Jada's friendship. It's an interesting choice, but random. I do feel someone like Kayla would be a better choice. The Chanel stuff is not great. Sloane is being played as such a villian. It's hard to feel any sympathy for her when she has no redeeming qualities. And, man, Allie can be really pushy and obnoxious lol.

Yeah, I immediately though she was still pregnant just by the last scene yesterday. I don't get the feeling Jada necessarily wants Eric or wants to manipulate him exactly. If she is still pregnant she is just doing that old self-sacrificing trope to protect everyone as the reason for her deception. If she is still pregnant it would have been a less inflammatory choice for Jada to say she had a miscarriage. I think this is Days trying to be edgy or progressive here. The show didn't seem to be going there over the right to choose to begin with. Eric instantly accepted it was her choice, but he didn't like the circumstances or how she went about it. I thought there would have been a little more push back from Eric too. I find Eric's beliefs and behavior rarely line up with the Catholic Church. In fact, Eric doesn't seem particularly religious lol.

Ben aside, which agreed. He did ruin her. The way Ciara would dress would take me out of her scenes a lot and made me almost dislike VK because I felt it was her choice to look that sexy when the scene didn't call for it. That actually makes me kind of petty, but I don't need to see her boobs to know she's beautiful and hot lol. Marci Miller was the opposite-dressing super dowdy and prairie. Everything MM, CB, and VK wore/wear are on trend, but they don't fit the character they are playing. I think Chloe and Chanel are two characters that dress very on trend but still appropriate for their characters.

Well, I don't know how it would work on GH with people coming back from the dead. I don't think logic can apply in this scenario since it really isn't something that would happen very often or ever in real life lol. Again I only know what the people that handle my 401k tell me about stocks, but is it possible the public trading of the shares just gets smaller instead? Since Edward said all LIVING grandkids it is a bit different than Caroline Kennedy having to give up money because JFK specifically named her in his will not any living children that might pop up. So if baby Monroe Kennedy appeared Caroline wouldn't have to give up anything.

Gabi usually looks okay. She's on the sexy side, but Ciara was another level. Even her 9 months pregnant maternity outfits were super short and low cut lol.

I am excited for the confrontation too. I still think Nicole is going to get way too much blame. She was wrong and ridiculous, but if Jada was that easily swayed to have an abortion by one conversation with someone she doesn't like or respect it's clear Jada wasn't fully committed to the pregnancy. The thing about Gabi is she was wearing a weather appropriate, cute coat, so I am not sure how the dress/tunic/shirt she was wearing got past wardrobe. The dress is not only seasonally off it's completely skimpy and ugly. It's not only ridiculously short, but completely open with some sort of lingerie showing lol. Even if CB is dressing herself-someone should have stepped in BTS even if it wasn't costuming lol

I know Nicole will get the brunt of the blame (and she deserves some), but the whole situation was handled poorly by all parties involved. I know it was early in the pregnancy and things were changing quickly, but Eric wasn't communicating with Nicole properly nor did he really have a plan. And of course Jada is making a bunch of quick decisions without telling Eric (I assume she's still pregnant though). Frankly, if Nicole/Eric were planning on being together the three of them should have just sat down together and discussed the pregnancy and plans before any decisions were made. But that wouldn't be soapy, so I guess we are on to break up 1 million for Eric/Nicole.

Now that you said that you say that I remember Sam selling the stock lol. Poor Ned. He's in and out as CEO so often no wonder he didn't let it happen again.

Was it a dress? It legit looked like a top with a bra hanging out? Lol