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Nadine did get a small funeral, or maybe at the burial, I think it was outdoors. There was a flashback or two. I remember SOD called the show out, saying that Nadine was connected to others in Springfield, but the Coopers were the only one's there. I hated that they killed off Nadine, as much as I hated them having her and Jenna attached to Buzz's hip. I also hated watching Brent kick her body in the river, knowing her body would be decomposed once resurfaced. I will say having her predict her murder was inventive, and knowing there is usually a cast purge when a new EP/HW comes in, raised the stakes in the Brent story, wondering/worrying about who might be next. Crazy thing though, I wondered if the show would pair her with Cutter, and Brent killed him right after her

The actual postscript was that he was let go

I'm not sure about Will but I think Anderson/Mandettti created Sonni. This is 1987 so forgive me for not remembering details, but while they were still there, I remember Josh having a nightmare of a woman falling, possibly off of a cliff. I knew Long was returning so paid attention to see when she would be credited. I think Anderson/Mandetti's last episode was Reva finding out Josh was married in Venezuela and Long's name first appeared in the next one, in which Reva confronted Josh about his marriage and ended with Reva putting on her red dress and red lipstick to go out, as Sarah told her to tend to crying Mariah. When Sonni did appear, Michelle Forbes looked like the woman in Josh's nightmare falling, but I don't remember. I also remember reading at some point that the show bought the Sonni story from the previous writers. If true, Long most likely made changes to fit the story she wanted to tell. In that case, I don't know who created Will, but he appeared before Sonni. The writers strike hurt the show, but given what the show gave us in previous years, the Sonni story was my favorite story in years, especially because other stories came from it, like Reva/Alan, and Alex and Phillip's takeover of Spaulding. No matter whose idea it was, the stupidest part of it all was Marah's paternity. When Reva first became pregnant, she reminded Josh that if Kyle was her father, they would've found out she was pregnant when she got hit by a car after leaving Kyle at the altar. How they now believed he was the father was preposterous. Sorry. I forgot what thread i was in lol I just read the Frank article. Does anyone remember when Will was introduced vs Frank, because it feels like there was a gap for Frank to get created because he lost out on Will. I've always heard of the Todd Bauer story

Didn't Dorie have a relationship with Dinah when they were introduced? Another missed opportunity

Thanks for all this info! With all this to work with, ignoring/forgetting about her is all the more worst

I remember SOD ran an article previewing the remote in the Keys, and Long said the Keys was chosen because it had something that would involve Reva's exit (it was most likely the bridge). I don't know if a new interview is being referenced, but the one should gave during GL's last week, she said she was gone before Reva's exit. Not only was she there for a few more months, but a lot of new stories came from it. I don't know how she could forget, but for me the show was must see tv. How do you not give yourself credit for it lol

Very true. I haven't seen the episode since it aired, but didn't they mention why Mike and Hope either couldn't make it to the funeral or had to leave right after?

I don't know if it was ever stated, but I always assumed that Maureen told at least 1 family member over the phone after she left the Bauer House, and that member told the others. It would never make sense that her family returned off screen so we were cheated out of all the confrontations with Ed. We were also cheated out of Mike telling Ed that because of the cheating and drinking, he became their father

Thanks! I appreciate it!

I don't remember what was going on when the show beat GH, but I'm wondering if it was around the time Darcy held Beth and I think Alexandra hostage. One of the guys in school brought it up when school restarted and a girl brought it up a year later during my first summer job. I think they watched during that time but stopped watching sometime after

I remember SOD was shocked he won in 95, because they thought Maule should've won, I think in the aftermath of B.J.'s death and Maxie getting her heart. They said a hush fell over the place when he didn't win. I didn't watch GH but Maule did get acclaim from the soap press. I don't remember if it was the press or a fan who said something about a lack of respect as Deas didn't show up. I think the only time he did show up and won was 1994. I'm sure he didn't show up for his ATWT win, but I'm not sure about his Santa Barbara win

You're welcome Yes, Frank dated Dana, but I'm not sure how long it was before she was murdered

I remember SOD interviewed writers about the mess they had to clean up once the strike was over. Long said she asked producers who Blake had those mysterious phone calls to and they told her they didn't know lol Yes, I read this in different interviews Long and Curlee gave

Blake was originally a new character. When Chris Bernau became too sick to work, they wanted Michael Zaslow to take over as Alan, but Michael suggested they bring Roger back instead. The TPTB said no, because no one would believe that he survived the fall off the cliff. Curlee knew Roger and pushed to bring him back, so they did. Someone came up with the idea of turning Blake into Christina afterwards, which opened up potholes (like Ed not recognizing her). Then they decided to bring Holly back for a visit, but Maureen's performance inspired Long to bring her back full time

During their youtube interview with Alan, Curlee and Demorest briefly brought up the numerous EP and HW changes in the mid to late 80's, but Alan interrupted and that ended the conversation. I always wondered had chaotic the changes were for the staff writers.

Does anyone know the show's plans for Roger/Holly/Amanda and the arrival of at least 1 Black Spaulding before Zaslow and then his replacement were let go? Did anyone find a definitive answer in regards to whether characters moved from Selby Flats to Springfield or if the show magically changed locations? I realized Fran Myers was there, and if she's on social media, she'll know the answer

GL Brent, for reasons some of u have already said. Killing Nadine was never ok, especially when he kicked her body in the river, and of course I knew that once her body surfaced, she would have to be identified by dental records or DNA, not something you want to happen to a beloved character. However, we knew that when new writers/producers come in, people would be written out, so there was a sense of most any character could get killed off, which heighten the drama. Him switching Lucy's hiv test to positive was never ok. I also remember Buzz making fun of how ugly Marian looked, and this was him believing she was a woman. The story was dark and disturbing yet I'll admit that I was glued to the screen

Not only did he not mention Julie, but he ends up with Dinah, who killed Julie's first love Hart, and not a peep from her. She needed a short term return, which would've added realistic complications to Dinah and Mallet. Even more had Dinah's siblings had learned their sister murdered their uncle, while trying to kill the mother of their cousin RJ. And Peter returns, not just mad at Dinah, but also Dinah's mother Vanessa who helped her escape justice. The same Vanessa sharing custody of Peter with Bridget. And having 1 or 2 of Dinah's siblings turning against her makes her realize that she should focus on being a great older sister to her sibs, which would help undo some of the damage Rauch did to her turning her psycho. All of which causes more complications for Ross and Blake, more realistic than a romantic triangle. The show had so many lay ups but instead of going for the easy basketball shot, they decided to play football instead

I remember we were told that Grant Aleksander was let go, then blind items ran about a recently fired actor whom some of his leading ladies had issues working with him. I could swear Beth Chamberlain and another actress said that what was said about him wasn't true. And then when who killed Philip ran on for eternity, Carolyn Hinsey said in an article that it seemed as if the show always planned to bring Grant back, but didn't tell it to him at the time so when they told him that he was rehired, he said no thanks, and the show didn't know what to do so they continued the story, which wasn't supposed to run that long. Someone if not her said something about Days firing people, killing off their characters, but then were unfired and they all returned, but GL did it with one actor and he didn't return. Don't know if it's true but I read somewhere that they wanted to keep him in villian mode and it was part of the problem. I wonder if a lot of what Alan did was supposed to be Philip

With the backlash the show received after killing off Maureen, the best way to get angry fans watching again would've been bringing back Mike and Hope Bauer. They'd ease back in while helping Ed and Michelle deal with Maureen's death, and helping wayward grandson/son Alan Michael. Mike and Ed would talk about how Ed became their father Bill. The press, while covering Maureen's death would bring up Ed cheating on her in the past, which leads Michelle to learn she is Claire and not Maureen's daughter (I believe she was only a toddler when Claire left), and Blake helps to comfort her by telling her that she was led to believe Ed was her father for years, and would really move into the role of her older sister. Mike checks up on Lilian, making things more uncomfortable, the brief revisit of Ed/Holly/Roger, goes on longer, Ed tells Nadine that she owes Bridget for taking advantage of her in regards to baby Peter, and Nadine's redemption begins there, as she is also in the Bauer sphere. Alexandra returns and she and Mike becomes chummy again, and then position everyone where they need to be for Alan's 1994 prison release. Also, had Alan Michael and Gilly ended up together, after a slow build and them really having time to become a couple, the arrival of Victoria and a son, could've ultimately led to a triangle, with that son possibly still coming to terms with having white blood inside of him, and him and Gilly being treated differently by some, clashes with his mother over this, and too many Spauldings and Vanessa engaged in power struggles over Spaulding enterprises is a hell of a lot better than what we actually got. Part of the problem in 1993 is the stunt casting. Joe Lando was part of that. SOD named him being on the show, worst limited run I think. They began the article by saying whoever thinks stunt casting is the way to get ratings up, do not know soaps. I figured the writers would have stories carefully plotted with characters we love, but Jill telling them that she just hired so and so, this is when they begin, contract length, and when to write them into scripts, so the writers would have to throw together a character, story, and possibly toss a carefully plotted story. Curlee did an interview a number of years back where she said she didn't have time to develop Tangie And finally, Beverlee McKinsey was right about Alex/Nick/Mindy going on too long. Alex would've said, that she knew about Lujack, but only had about 2 yrs with him b4 he died. Now with Nick, she wants the time to get to know him and have a relationship with him, so she would not try to break up him and Mindy. Of course she'd tell Mindy that she knows Mindy will mess things up herself, and when Nick dumps her, she can not blame her. I wonder if they had anything more long-term with him minus the triangle. With both characters gone, Nick was boring. With the roles recast, Nick was still boring. Beverlee and Simms were that story's big draw. I stand firm on my opinion that Mindy never should have had a miscarriage. Imagine how permanently messy things would've been had Mindy given birth to Roger's son. And delay the it hitting the fan had Mallet convince Mindy to let him pretend to be the father, with Roger highly suspicious that yet another woman is letting another man raise his child? Calhoun, Curlee and Co made a major mistake with this one

RIP 😥

Beyond sad 😥

Such heartbreaking news. RIP

I don't remember the months, but Curlee left for maternity leave in 92, and Lorraine Broderick took her place. Curlee returned sometime in the fall when Reilly left for Days. I'm pretty sure she wasn't there when McKinsey and Simms left, but I think she said she gave her husband the idea of having Bridget's hairdryer cause the blackout, though she wasn't writing at the time. The maternity leave announcement is when I learned she and Demorest were married, and I think I remember SOD said she was to appear as an extra at the diner b4 she left. It's funny how I struggle to remember these things then realize this was a good 30 yrs ago lol.

Great episode! Thanks!