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Episode 157 is out of order, and it's explosive. It's pretty wild watching it without knowing the context. I had to rewind it multiple times because the characters were speaking so fast! Stu goes to visit Dusty. Someone tells him he's not allowed but he insists. I get the impression he dumped Dusty or cheated on her. Dusty says Clint told her he loved her and they were going to be together. Then she tells him that Clint forced himself on her, but luckily she got away. This infuriates Stu. He goes to the bar and Clint tells him that Dusty is having problems. They get in a shouting match and Stu punches him. Then Stu goes to his family's home, and tells his father and Elyse what happened. Remember Clint and Elyse are a couple. They tell Stu they need to wait until Clint comes home and tells his side of the story. While Stu is arguing with them, he tells Elyse "He slapped you!" which she doesn't deny. She says Trish is jealous of her so they made up a story. She also says she's worried about Clint's reputation. Then we see a night shot of Dusty and Trish's living room. The door opens and a man comes in. His face is completely obscured by the darkness but then we see that it's Clint. He crosses the room and then enters the hallway. And the episode ends! So ominous! Poor Dusty...and Elyse needs to break up with him. I love this show. I hope SABC+ releases more.

Interesting! I've never heard about Lenita! It seems like a lot of South African soaps have gay storylines and they are better than the ones from American soaps. I'll be in your debt if you convert the VHS and upload them! 😂

I think you're talking about Ashley and Rhino (or is it Rino?). Yes, the reveal of the dark family secret is very close to the big thing that happens! Then the show gets way better. Even though I enjoyed the repeats from 2008, I don't remember much. I kick myself for not recording them. It seems like the writing was good until at least 2008, maybe later. And yes by that time Lee, Barker, and Rajesh were driving the major stories. Sorry it took me so long to post!

@DRW50 I whole heartedly recommend you watch. The first 184 episodes are available. I have so many thoughts yet don't know where to start or what to write! Apartheid ended in 1994 and Isidingo started four years later in 1998. It's a fascinating time capsule. The dynamics in Horizon Deep are very complicated, with generally white people having more money and better jobs, while the black people work in the mine and live in the hostel. But there are exceptions on both fronts. The writing is very good. We're introduced to some iconic characters like Cherel, Bra George, Letti, and many more. The first couple weeks worth of episodes, I think are very good and interesting but the stakes aren't very high and then BOOM, something shocking happens and the show runs on all cylinders. It is the closest soap IMO to One Life To Live, with the racial tension, class differences, and balancing complex characters with good storylines. These episodes contain the first interracial kiss on South African TV! I periodically searched for old Isidingo full episodes for years and there was absolutely nothing. Isidingo has a special place in my heart. I watched some of the Africa Channel repeats when I was in high school and it's very nostalgic. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw the early episodes were uploaded almost 2 years ago. @DRW50 I recommend you go in blind but I'll write some thoughts with spoilers below. It's streaming free on https://sabc-plus.com/ . You don't need a VPN, however you need a South African phone number to register. I bought one for only a couple dollars online. Or if you'd rather, you can message me. I would love to hear all of your opinions!! I didn't see your post about Michelle Botes. It's so sad. Cherel is probably my favorite character. Darlington Michaels who played Bra George also died in 2024. Mlangeni Nawa who played Zeb died earlier this year. James Bartlett, who played Mike died in 2022. The first conflict is when a racist bigot, Mike, hits a mine worker, Gotlieb while they're underground. Cherel is cheating on her husband, who owns the mine, with Gideon. But she breaks it off. The show changes track with a triple homicide! The murder mystery is captivating but then they switch gears and show an uprising in the mine. Cherel and her maid, Lorraine, have a fun relationship. Zeb, the mine manager, is the boyfriend of Lorraine, even though he has a family with Ma Agnes who is living in the country. I think the show does a good job of making Zeb a complicated character. For some reason I like him. Bra George is the resident trouble maker. He owns the shabeen (the bar that caters more towards mine workers) and runs a crime enterprise. He's a very long running character. New characters are introduced periodically. Funny enough, I usually unsure of them at first, but then I end up really caring about them. Pippa, the mine owner's daughter, arrives and of course they hate each other. Pippa is going to university in the UK, and she is very critical of the white power and money, even though she directly benefits from it. She is a sanctimonious know it all yet she's likeable! Derek, a young educated black man arrives and his goal is to take over the mine. He tries hard to fit in with the miners. Him and Pippa fall in love. They have the first interracial kiss on South African TV, as I mention above. I presume they're the first interracial couple on SA TV. Ma Agnes and the kids were living in the country but they return to Horizon Deep to move in with Zeb. This introduces Letti, a long running character. Not to mention it's awkward because him and Lorraine have been playing house. The most boring storyline to me is the love triangle with Trish, Elyse, and Clint. It's awkward and kind of sad. Elyse is self righteous and one of the only characters I dislike. Clint is dull and kind of an ass. There's so much more I could say. We all know when soaps start they can be awkward. But I think it hits the ground running. I hope they upload more. And I would love to see Generations from the beginning.

You're welcome. I ordered the DVDs. I'll report back if there's anything worth mentioning.

I'd never heard of this Australian soap opera until today! It ran for 126 episodes. It starts with a family who wins the lottery but the show revamps itself a few times. The storylines toward the end involve neo nazis and carnivorous plants! Sorry if there is already a thread for this! From IMDB: "A family's life changes after winning the lottery jackpot. Initially focusing on their newfound wealth, the show takes an absurd turn with neo-Nazis, Chinese gangsters, supernatural entities, and man-eating flora" It was released on DVD a few years ago! (PAL, Region 0) Even this clip from episode 14 gets whacky towards the end

I gotta disagree about 1987 being a boring year. I've only seen a couple dozen episodes from that year, and I haven't viewed the above videos yet, but there was a lot of drama. Trisha was addicted to drugs and dating the villainous casino owner Nick Dinatos. Gwyn was in full matriarch vixen mode and I believe at one point goes to the casino to slap Nick. I'm not a big fan of false rape storylines, but there was intrigue with Steve being in jail, and him and Trisha still being in love. Then there was the Alden panic learning "Clay" is still alive, and Alex comes in hot. He sleeps with Gwyn and then basically tells her to F off. Retweet about the Loving Murders. It's my favorite soap storyline, as tragic as it is.

Thank you @Errol I'm happy to see Beyond The Gates increasing their numbers. In Women 18-49 they are only .01 behind The Bold and the Beautiful. I really hope this week of repeats doesn't slow their momentum.

You're very welcome. I think Noelle Beck and Trisha are extremely underrated. She was on the show for more than 8 years and had two major romantic pairings. As you said, she was young and really grew up on the show. I know Loving was never highly rated but I wish she had more recognition.

Noelle Beck nominated for Outstanding Younger Actress in the 1989 Daytime Emmy's. At 19 minutes and 16 seconds. Apologies if this has been posted before. It's nice to see a clip of Trisha, even if it's quick.

This is the first episode this week that has really captivated me. Leslie kicking Eva out hurts my soul...

That fakeout was a bad idea. The fight would've been great drama. And they put it in the promo!

Download isn't working for me either. With that said, thank you for all the work you have done!

The last few episodes have reminded me of watching old soaps. I was hesitant to get behind the hype but damn!

Best news all year.

This is the best episode so far. Finally there's action!

Is the All My Children Lifetime movie dead or is it moving really slowly? I haven't heard anything about it.

Is there a chance ABC will get more serious about GH and replace FV? Maybe now that Beyond The Gates exists, they will see a need to revamp GH. My apologies if this was discussed upthread.

@DRW50 You're welcome! I won't spoil anything but you'll love it. I hope to hear your thoughts. I'm not even halfway through watching them but it's incredible. I need to write my opinions at some point. It's 26 years old...but maybe I'll use spoiler tags? I've been hoping for something like this since the Africa Channel days.

In case anyone doesn't know, Youtube can translate subtitles. The English translation is pretty good for these. @AMCOLTLLover Thank you so much for sharing. It's an amazing gift. I've always wanted to see OLTL before Rauch.

Man the first half of that tweet had me doing the happy dance and then I saw the second half. That's devastating. They've had years to say something so what gives?

Steffi and Ally on Loving. How many guys did they flip? Cooper, Casey, Tony...am I missing any? From frenemies to friends.

I had no idea AW ever beat GL in the 90s. Also I had no idea Loving ever beat AW. Also in women 18-49, it was somewhat often #6 out of 11 in 1996 and 1997. It also tied OLTL and PC on separate occasions. OLTL had a much higher rating so it came down to the share. Courtesy of JASON47's amazing site. Sorry if this has already been discussed.

If someone messages me the private Youtube full episode playlists I will be very grateful. Not a troll. I promise.

If anyone knows where I can watch 2009 and 2010 online, please hook me up. Thank you and Happy New Year!!