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Yes true, the styling definitely had a big part to do with it as well. I look at many stars from the 80's and they all seem to look younger now than they did then

Jeanne was born just before the depression and was a heavy smoker and drinker and Eric was born in Germany during WWII, not an easy period for either. Those other actors would have lived a fairly privlleged and I am betting middle or upper middle class life. They also grew up at a time when health and beauty in the film and television industry was more important than skill, so their focus would be on staying young looking. Compare people like Jordi, Donny etc... with people living in poorer social ecomonic circumstances. I bet those people will look much older. Young people today tend to stay home with their parents until they are 25 (I remember most leaving home at 18) and honestly 18 - 25 year olds seem so young mentally these days as well. They seem more like 15 - 18 year olds. I don't mean dumb but just less mature, but I would say the same of many people my age too (late 30's)

Hey everyone here are some notes taken from Variety Archives search engine. I do have access to the archive but it limits the issues I can access and I need those for school. However I am able to do unlimited searches. A big issue is that it often mispells in the search engine, so potentially there are more articles for Search that I could not find. In some cases there were mentions of the show but only a word or two popped up, so I couldn't access the full text. Anyway hopefully some of this information might be interesting. This covers only 1960 - 1969. I will look through the 70's at some point in the future Aug 1, 1962 - Jay Barney in a flock of dramatic assignments in "Search for Tomorrow," "Car 54........ Mar 6, 1963 – “Search for Tomorrow," tv's longest-running daytime serial, will have its 3,000th broadcast on CBS-TV Friday ( 8). It preemed Sept. 3, 1951 Jun 10, 1964 - Davis signed for six episodes of soaper "Search for Tomorrow" (NO IDEA WHO THEY ARE REFERRING TO, SORRY) Aug 26, 1964 - ,Shakespearean actor, into running role In CBS-TV soaper, "Search for Tomorrow” (SORRY THE NAME DIDN’T SHOW UP) Feb 10, 1965 - Legit actress Patricia Harty into running lead on "Search for Tomorrow" Mar 3, 1965 - Marian Hailey, currently in Florida road company production of "Any Wednesday," goes into a running lead in CBS-TV's "Search for Tomorrow” Oct 27, 1965 - Virginia Gilmore cast for running lead in CBS-TV's daytime drama, "Search for Tomorrow" Dec 22, 1965 - Melissa Murphy into CBS-TV soaper, "Search for Tomorrow," replacing Patrician (I ASSUME PAT HARTY???) Mar 15, 1967 - Beverly Todd cast for a running role in CBS-TV's "Search For Tomorrow" soaper May 10, 1967 - Larry Haines written out of the "Search for Tomorrow" soap for 10 weeks to enable him to work summerstock in "The Odd Couple" Jan 10, 1968 - Ken Kercheval, regular on CBS-TV's "Search for Tomorrow," on leave to rehearse for Broadway-bound "Here's Where I Belong" Feb 21, 1968 - Playwright Arthur Miller's sis, Joan Copeland. into the "Search For Tomorrow" serial cast. Sep 18, 1968 - Terry O'Sullivan switches from the same web's (CBS) "Search For Tomorrow" to the "Secret Storm" daytime strip. Nov 27, 1968 - Bob Driscoll, who used to produce the "Love of Life" daytlmer for CBS-TV. taking over as ditto on the web's "Search For Tomorrow" strip Apr 30, 1969 - Kelly Wood into running role in CBS-TV daytime, "Search for Tomorrow." Sep 10, 1969 - Martha Galpfcin, who has a running part in the daytime tv serial, "Search for Tomorrow," will be in "The Penny Wars." (LAST NAME SEEMS TO BE A TYPO)

Thanks for that information Assuming the Watergate pre-emptions and writers strike didn't change plans or potentially Jeanne's availability didn't change plans then I guess the Y&R facebook page was right her start date was Nov 26, 1973 and her next appearance was Jan 28, 1974. Yep here it is though very small. I wish we had the colour version in high quality Also interesting Kay holds up photos of her and Phillip from this shoot in the 1986 episodes when she is thinking about her anniversary

I also love how Brenda is dressed, seeing as she was furious in the beginning that they dressed her in such a dowdy way, on the E! True Hollwyood Story when she said "they taped my bosom down" I can just imagine after that she decided If I can't show my figure on the show, I will do it every other chance I get

Yeah I actually just noticed she isn't even in the 1974 cast photo. You can almost see the gap next to Janice/Jaime and slightly in front of Jeanne where Pam probably should have been, lol

Oh cool, yeah probs be a bit of a double up, haha. Oh well plenty for people to choose from

Couldn't find it, but I will keep looking. So I found the full April 21 1986 episode. Not sure why I only had half of it. Anyway have added this to the vault using the german footage with english audio. I also asked the guy on FB if he could upload the Sep 86 episodes, so hopefully that will happen at some point as well I will also add the April 22 1986 episode as well shortly

I had no idea they re-aired it. Has someone uploaded the re-broadcast as I notice it is not in the vault, I can do it if I can find the re-broadcast

Yeah it should work, I haven't had a single issue with uploading to the vault

You're on the Y&R facebook page right? Did you manage to get the Sep 86 episodes that were uploaded? There are three Sep 15, 16, 17. I have only been able to get Sep 15 & 17 but Sep 16 is just not working for me. Was hoping to get them in the vault too. Otherwise I might try asking the person that uploaded them if they could add them to the vault. Also we got half of the Apr 21 episode, but since we have the Jill/John scene from the divorce saga uploads and the Lauren/Joanna/Paul scenes from the vault uploads which comprise most of the second half of that episode, I am uploading this version to the vault. It means the last Jack/Nikki scene and the Ashley Victor scene in the cabin are in german, but that is only a few minutes total.

I have it as May 6 as well, the May 5 episode is when Kay has the fantasy of shooting Jill and does her practice shooting on the dummy and Jill is getting some lovin in the office from Michael

I think Feb 14 is Feb 18. There was definitely a pre-emption on Jan 28 due to the Space Shuttle Challenger explosion. All three networks were taping the launch for later broadcast and as a result cut into the daytime tv schedule and pretty much stuck with the story until their nightly news broadcasts. There is a possible one on Jan 31 for the memorial service for the astronauts as well, but while this definitely pre-empted the show on the east coast it may not have on the west coast. However at some point the two caught up. I do have the whole of May 2, 1986 except the first 30 seconds. I will upload it now (Just be aware the first 40 seconds or so are in German) ETA: Sorry I also have May 5, 1986 from GenoaCityGuy so I will do that one too

Yeah I thought the same. Bill Glenn and Richard Dunlop are pretty much the main two from 1973 - 1982. Yes Y&R had some great directors, even through to periods post-Bell when I wasn't as big on the show, it still looked fantastic Thanks for that. Being Australian I actually looked through to see what soaps aired here in the 70's and was surprised so many of them had a run (even a short one) Most interesting was Days and ATWT got a short stint at nighttime as well. Yeah it was interesting so much is made of the exciting new and fresh Y&R with a young and dynamic cast and yet so little can be found of the show or its stars

Haha just glad you got something out of it I actually only meant to jot down that one point about John Considine, but then I couldn't stop myself Also when John Conboy left around Feb 1982, directors Bill Glenn and Dick Dunlop left too. Was really the end of an era. They were replaced by Frank Pacelli / Rudy Vejar and Dennis Steinmetz

More from Variety - I will give it a rest after this Pat Wenig is last mentioned as Supervising Producer October 1979 Jan 16, 1980 - ' YOUNG & RESTLESS' EXPANDS TO AN HOUR CBS-TV's long-promised expansion of "The Young & The Restless" to an hour's length will become a fact Feb 4, 1980 Jan 29, 1980 - Meg Bennet 1st Of Additions To 'Restless' Cast As the first of several cast members to be added to the expanded "The Young & The Restless" soaper, Meg Bennet has been signed to portray the role of Julia Newman Apr 7, 1980 - Young, Restless - Bauer looks beyond soaps (I know JLB stated she was leaving every year from about 1975 so I didn't bother looking at this article) Apr 30, 1980 - "Young And Restless" star Jaime Lyn Bauer and husband, makeup artist Jeremy Swan, expect in late August May 15, 1980 - Mike Hank(s) is back as Casting Director Nov 10, 1980 - "The Young & Restless' Mike Hanks casting role of Lance Prentiss, 35-40, leading man type, handsome, charismatic, all-American, suave, debonair, sense of humor, charming, lives abroad, singer a plus. Responsible agents may phone Mr. Hanks. Send photos and resumes Mar 23, 1981 - Clare & Elizabeth Schoene, Rob Sullivan, MP Murphy continuing roles on "The Young and the Restless" (No character names listed) May 8, 1981 - Paul Tulley continuing role The Young and the Restless" May 13, 1981 - CBS-TV is moving Its soaps around and plans more balanced programming in entertainment, info series and spex, affiliates were told yesterday by Michael Ogiens, day time and children's programs veepee. Speaking at the 26th general affiliates conference at the Century Plaza, Ogiens said that the afternoon slate changes will be keyed around the moving of "The Young And The Restless" from its current 1 p. m. slot to 12: 30 ( where "Search For Tomorrow" is now ensconsed). "As The World Turns" will move forward a halfhour to a 1: 30 p. m. star May 26, 1981 - Cissy Wellman figures she's now a "more serious person," so she's using her real monicker, Celia as she starts a "Young And Restless" week playing a pathetic hooker Jun 10, 1981 - Joe Taggart, continuing role, "The Young And The Restless." July 15, 1981 - Melody Thomas who plays the stripper girl friend ofSteven Ford in "Young & Restless" underwent an emergency appendectomy Jul 16, 1981 - Tom Palmer joins the crew of the Young and the Restless (no idea what role or if it is a behind the scenes gig) Nov 18, 1981 - Steven Ford's option on "Young & Restless" was pick ed up for another 13 weeks

More from Variety. These are just from the search engine, but if I find something of particular note I will retrieve it and post it Feb 2, 1977 - SNAPPER FOSTER SINGS! "The Young and the Restless'" Star DAVID HASSELHOFF makes his singing debut tonight on the Merv Griffin Show Apr 6, 1977 - Y&R is referred to as "The Hung and the Restless" at a Washington D.C event - not sure who made this joke but I guess by this point the tight pants on the men were being noticed, haha May 25, 1977 - CBS has two serial dramas in development - one from "The Young & The Restless" supplier Bill Bell and the other from EMI Productions, which has never operated in daytime before. Ogiens also anticipated that specials, "not necessarily at the same level as at nighttime," are going to become an important program force Jun 9, 1977 - Y&R star Jaime-Lyn Bauer to wed Dr. Richard Goldstein Jun 17 in Riverside Jun 21, 1977 - Cindy Eilbacher recurring role as Donna Benz on Y&R (is this character name correct??) Not sure about this next one Aug 22, 1977 - Cherilyn Parsons as Kim Y&R Aug 22, 23, 24, & 29 - CBS Oct 26, 1977 - Singin', Swinin', & All That Jazz," Keith Charles and Don Hastings of "As The World Turns," Beau Kayzer, Victoria Mallory and John McCook of "The Young & The Restless" will show their daytime fans other dimensions of their talents. John Conboy, "Young & Restless" exec producer, will produce and Bill Glenn will direct Sep 14, 1978 - Edward J. Scott has been named producer and Nancy Wiard associate producer for CBS-TV's "The Young And The Restless." Scott has served as associate producer of the Columbia Pictures Television series for the past two years. (I assume Pat Wenig became Supervising Producer at this point) Dec 27, 1978 - Jaime-Lyn Bauer signs a deal with CBS (not sure what the details were) Feb 7, 1979 - Patricia Everly will replace Pamela Solow in the cast of CBS-TV's "Young & The Restless" Mar 21, 1979 - Quinn Redeker signed for continuing role in "The Young and the Resltess" May 24, 1979 - CBS Expands Soaper, 'Restless To 1 Hour "The Young And The Restless, " CBS-TV soaper, Is being expanded to an hour from its current half-hour length in the fall. CBS affiliates were told yesterday by Michael Ogiens, v.p., daytime Jul 3, 1979 - Dawn Jeffory 'Restless' Dawn Jeffory Is joining Columbia Pictures tv's daytime series "The Young And The Restless," on CBS. Jul 4, 1979 - Kathleen Engel, formerly secretary in CBS press department, joins web's "The Young & The Restless" series as a writer. Jul 18, 1979 - Signed: "Young And The Restless" star David Hasselhoff has signed with Capricorn Records. Jul 18, 1979 - occurs Dec. 3, when "The Young & The Restless" serial will expand from 30 minutes to an hour. In so doing, its starting time will move up a half-hour earlier to 12: 30, ousting "Search For Tomorrow" from its current time period - with "Search" moving to the 3: 30 time period where it will replace "One Day At A Time." Oct 23, 1979 - CBS Delays "Restless' Hour form To Feb. 4 CBS-TV's "The Young & The Restless" soaper, originally to have begun its expansion to an hour-long form this month, will debut in its new format Feb 4 As reference here is a picture of the cast of "Singin', Swingin', & All That Jazz,"

Sep 9, 1975 - Daily Variety reports William Gray Espy set to leave Y&R (pretty sure his last episode is the one with Jennifer Brooks coming out of surgery (I believe Sep 26, 1975) Nov 26, 1975 - Daily Variety reports that David Hasselhoff announced to take over role of Snapper Foster (his first air date has been listed as Dec 8, 1975) Dec 10, 1975 - Daily Variety reports that on Dec 9 John Conboy signs deal with Columbia Pictures Television to establish a company under his own name and develop projects in association with CPT Mar 31, 1976 - Patricia Wenig named Producer of Y&R (I assume this is when Conboy got the Ex Producer title?) Also might be when Ed Scott joined the show???? Just a guess Jun 17, 1976 - Maura Spencer-Reed and Stacy Graham listed as cast on Y&R (no roles mentioned) Oct 19, 1976 - Variety announces Janice Lynde, John McCook, Mary Stuart and Michael Nouri to star in Daytime tv Special Additional note - Mike Hank(s) was listed as Casting director until Aug 1976 - replaced at some point by Trudy So or Sow or Soaa, her last name seems to be constantly mis-spelled.

Also from looking at the Variety Archives John Considine began filming a movie (The Thirsty Dead aka Blood Hunt aka The Blood Cult of Shangri-La) in the Phillipines starting Feb 26, 1974. Sounds like he wasn't on Y&R much past that Jan 28, 1974 episode. Some dates I found from Variety Archives Feb 27, 1973 - Daily Variety reports Patricia Wenig hired as Associate Producer Mar 8, 1973 - Daily Variety reports Robert Colbert, William Gray Espy and Mary Grover added to Y&R cast Mar 20, 1973 - Bill Glenn and Herbert Kenwith set as rotating directors for Y&R Apr 20, 1973 - Robert Clarke joins Y&R in continuing role (Bruce Henderson) Sep 14, 1973 - Daily Variety reports Richard Dunlop has been added as a rotating director for Y&R Dec 11, 1973 - Daily Variety reports Jaime-Lyn Bauer has been added to the cast which lines up with her character returning in time for Christmas Jun 7, 1974 - Karl Bruck joins Y&R in a recurring role (As Maestro Fautsch) Pretty sure Maestro was introduced in 1973, maybe someone else played him? Nov 18, 1974 - William Glenn, Richard Dunlop and Jim Drake listed as Directors for Y&R (Jim Drake seems to have been dropped by Dec 74) There are also a couple mentions in the archives I might retrieve about the WGA being upset about scab writers being used on Days and Y&R during the 1973 writers strike and a possible lawsuit

Here is a bit of a run down of Nikki from Oct 1978, mentions Scott

I believe Brock, Snapper and Casey were determined to help Nikki pull her life together and she dated some really upstanding guy, but he may have been a bit old fashioned for the times, I think Snapper introduced them. He was played by Jack Stauffer. Maybe he was on staff at the hospital with Snapper and Casey. I didn't think they dated for very long, but I have only read synopsis so not sure. He came on in summer 1978 I think. Pretty sure it didn't last that long. I am almost certain Nikki and Greg were beginning to date when Nick Reed turned up in 1979.

That was the other thing I was thinking. Maybe her first appearance in Nov was so brief that it seemed almost like a day player role to the soap press. I tried finding any info on John Considine's time on the show, as apparently Jeanne said he was there before her (maybe he is seen with Liz at the Chancellor factory) but I could find nothing at this point. Jeanne was well known in the 1950's and I think early 60's in terms of television. Not sure what her profile was like by 1973. So no idea if the general press would bother to announce her arrival. I have some 1973/74 daytime tv issues coming so I will see if there is anything in those as well

This is the only mention of Jeanne Cooper joining Y&R that I could find. This comes from the Feb 21, 1974 issue of Daily Variety. This seems to add to the idea that her start date was Jan 28, 1974. I am still not willing to say 100% confirmation, but the evidence is mounting, haha ETA: I am thrown off by Jeanne stating in 1976 that she joined the show 6 1/2 months after it debuted. But what if that is when she signed her contract. It doesn't mean that is when she started taping. Bell/Conboy could have made sure they had her on board several months prior to her first tape date. It is the only way to explain the discrepency

There is only one place I found Sean Garrison credited as John Abbott, but it was in relation to a request for a cast list in a newspaper tv column and it was from January 1981, when Brett Halsey was very much in the role. The columnist also spelt names wrong and listed Tammy Taylor as Patty, though Lilibet was in the role at that point. The Brett Halsey/Sean Garrison casting along with Jeanne Cooper's start date is going to haunt me for some time I think, haha. CBS/Sony need to get these episodes onlin to ease my mind.

I know this has been buried, but I find this very interesting and odd Rose and Vince turn up (again) in October 1979 and this is Nikki's entire story until May 1980. Then the cult story kicks off in Jun 80 for the summer. No one knew the trouble Nikki had gotten into until that summer when Greg was being stalked by an assasain who shot Liz which happened in July, around the time Deb Adair took over as Jill. At this point Jill was at Jabot, Jack had just turned up and the triangle with John was haphazzardly bumbling along. ETA: Greg found out in May which pushed Nikki towards the cult, but no one else knew until July. Casey had her hands full with Lucas and Jonas, as Leslie had just returned to GC an amnesiac and Jaime Lyn was on her way out on maternity leave. Maybe Joseph Thomas and that story was an idea that Bell or someone mentioned at some point and some fan or soap journalist picked up on it as real. Based on the above I can't imagine it fitting in anywhere on the show. Though Bell was throwing everything but the kitchen sink at the audience around that time.