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  1. On 7/1/2022 at 3:46 PM, AMCOLTLLover said:

    But they are available on DVD already. 

    True, but the DVDs only cover the first 300ish episodes, which is the full 1985 season and half of 1986. My preference would be for them to start a repeat from July 1986 when the DVDs end, however I imagine were they to do a repeat, they'd probably want to start from the beginning or at least from Jason Donovan or Kylie's episodes. I don't mind the latter because that's early 1986 so the repeat would only overlap with the DVDs for a short time. I wasn't that keen on the first half of 1986 when I watched the DVDs, but I'd still quite like to see July 1986 to 1989. I'd love to see all of the 90s too. I've pretty much seen most of 2002 onwards.

    On 7/1/2022 at 3:46 PM, AMCOLTLLover said:

    Not that they start them re-runs and end up like Home and Away early years coz of some rights/contracts to air the rest of 1996 which led to the end of the re-runs.

    I loved that H&A repeat. They got pretty far, covering the first 8 years which was good (1988-1996).

    On 7/1/2022 at 3:46 PM, AMCOLTLLover said:

    the show will end after 8903 episodes? What’s that? Such a stupid number lol Just 97 more and we would’ve hit the 9000th! What a shame 

    Yes, that is a shame.

  2. 1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

    @Skylover What I got to see of Dieter Brummer as Scott (in the clips of the Kim and Scott story - boy what a horrid mess  the David and Leo retcon made of that...), I truly enjoyed his work. Jason Donovan, not so much.

    You mean Darius Perkins? Dieter Brummer played Shane Parrish in H&A in the 90s (and also Troy Miller from 2011-2012 in Neighbours).

    I also liked Scott I better than Scott II played by Jason Donovan. I don't know what it is, but apart from 1985, I can't get into the other 80s years. I much prefer the 90s onwards. Yes, that David/Leo retcon with Kim was a mess!

  3. 22 hours ago, AMCOLTLLover said:

    @SkyloverI wanted to apologize. It seems like I’m a bit too harsh on Neighbours and seem quiet hating on it. I‘m sorry. It‘s a great show and I even supported the show for as long as I can remember.

    No need to apologise :) You're perfectly within your rights to not like Neighbours, or prefer H&A. I don't like H&A much anymore, as it comes across as pretty soulless.

    22 hours ago, AMCOLTLLover said:

    But why didn’t they tried to find a new home earlier? Why didn’t they tried to branch out more in Australia? Why did they rely so heavily on the UK? (those are questions that come into my mind and it irritates me that they relied so heavily on Channel 5 and not their home.)

    Rumour has it they were trying to find a new UK home for Neighbours ages ago, probably mid 2021, when Channel 5 told Fremantle it's possible they wouldn't renew after another year. I don't think it's very likely another Australian broadcaster would have taken on Neighbours, as it wasn't popular on TEN, so it would have been a ricky investment for another Australian broadcaster. They relied so heavily on the UK because that's where the audience is, and it's why Neighbours has continued for so long. Neighbours has stayed on the air because of the UK since pretty much 1992, and has been almost solely made for the UK audience since 2010. I do think TEN could have done more. They should never have moved it to a digital channel in 2011, and should have given it some more time to recover from the Susan Bower years. Certainly from 2015 to 2018 it was going through a very good spell, and 2011-2014 wasn't bad. But, a lot of people seem to be at fault here. TEN should have done more, and should have contributed more towards production costs, however I get the impression Fremantle are greedy and always played hard ball with negotiations. The guy who runs Channel 5 doesn't seem to like Neighbours either, despite the fact 5 will lose a lot of viewers once the show ends. They've shot themselves in the foot. TEN, 5 and Fremantle could all have done more.

    22 hours ago, AMCOLTLLover said:

    I think between 2020-2022 Neighbours had not much going on. There were a few highlights but nothing worth watching it for.

    2020 is one of my favourite modern years of the show, with the Aaron, David, Brent and Emmett storyline, and the 35th anniversary. 2019 and 2021 were two of the worst years in recent history though. 2022 it's got back on course for me, but it seems to be going off the boil a bit with the two-dimensional story about Terese's mum Estelle and Byron will apparently be a gigolo, which is disappointing.

    22 hours ago, AMCOLTLLover said:

    Im also not fond of Toadies girlfriend. I hoped for a Dee/Toadie reunion since I was 12/13. They finally brought her back and ditched it. When I heard they cancel Neighbours i still hoped for a Love comeback but I gave up on it.

    It was a mistake to ever bring Dee back, as Madeleine West wasn't able to come back as a regular, so they should have left well alone. I like Melanie, but I agree her and Toadie aren't suited.

    22 hours ago, AMCOLTLLover said:

    Why would anyone think H&A won‘t survive? They bring in money, solid ratings, winning awards.. 

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10877561/amp/Home-Away-brings-1billion-export-revenue-Neighbours-says-goodbye.html

    I read that report. You have to wonder why that report was commissioned. You have to wonder why H&A needs to prove its worth? Perhaps Seven are trying to get the government to contribute costs. I'm not sure the reason, but I don't think H&A is anywhere near as safe as people think.

    On 6/20/2022 at 9:38 AM, DRW50 said:

    Interesting that Scott and Charlene weren't in there, but I totally understand why. 

    Yeah, that is interesting. Scott and Charlene's wedding is obviously iconic, but from what I've seen, their characters are ok but not up there with the best.

  4. 8 hours ago, AMCOLTLLover said:

    People seem more fond of H&A than Neighbours! That has been the case since like forever.. Even in the UK most fans love Neighbours but prefer H&A coz it had a smooth transition and came around this century. The issues Neighbours had were that people were hung up on nostalgia. Everytime something  got reported about Neighbours they used some picture from the 80‘s. That told me everything I needed to know.

    It's completely the other way round in the UK. Neighbours is far more fondly regarded than Home and Away here, and is watched by a lot more people (at least double or triple the viewers in the UK). Most of the reactions from Joe Public are that they're surprised Neighbours is going over H&A. People in the UK don't know that H&A is more popular in Australia (and they also generally find this surprising).

    8 hours ago, AMCOLTLLover said:

    Nostalgia killed Neighbours. I mean I love Kylie and saw her live twice but to bring her up constantly after 30 years just showed me that no one really watched that show!

    I wouldn't say nostalgia killed Neighbours at all. If anything, I think it kept it going for much longer than it might have. Neighbours had a huge cultural impact in the UK that H&A never really had, so Neighbours was always going to be more focused on nostalgia. It's costs, the greed of Fremantle, COVID, racism and the lack of support from the Australian audience that has caused the demise of Neighbours. 

    8 hours ago, AMCOLTLLover said:

    Home and Away is Lucky enough to hit the zeitgeist. They have sponsorships and product placement. They had an article about how much money they brought in since 1988. no wonder they never gave up on it. Neighbours relied to heavily on Channel 5. 

    I am concerned for H&A. I don't expect it to reach its 40th anniversary in 2028, and now Neighbours has been axed, I can see Seven losing interest. They say they're committed but I'm not convinced. I want H&A to continue, because it's important for the Australian television industry. 

    9 hours ago, DRW50 said:

    but  most of the show is in a good place - a strong cast, good returns (Glen) and new characters (Zara, Kiri, etc.)

    I think they've done really well with the new cast; Kiri, Freya, Zara, I'm really looking forward to seeing Byron. The Rodwells are a bit hit and miss but I'm enjoying seeing a new family. Hendrix's death has been very good, have you seen that yet?

    9 hours ago, DRW50 said:

    Thanks @Skylover . I'd love  to read your commentary.  

    Here's the Top 20 :) 

    19th place (joint):
    Naomi Canning | 87 points

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    Kicking off our 20 greatest characters is the highest-scoring member of the Canning clan on this list, the inimitable Naomi. Queen of poor life choices and deliciously self-deprecating about it, Naomi seldom means any harm, but usually ends up causing it anyway, and often in the name of love. Among her graveyard of doomed romantic exploits were a 'wild past' with billionaire Pierce Greyson, an ill-fated crush on Toadie, a high-risk fling with teenager Josh Willis, and a brief and at times hilarious relationship with Mark Brennan, before settling into a rash engagement with Diablo himself, Paul Robinson; so it was little surprise to learn that her offscreen American fiancé has recently carked it. Naomi's relatively short tenure as a regular from 2014-15 makes it all the more impressive that she's scored so highly, much of which can be attributed to a quirky, comedic and charismatic performance by Morgana O'Reilly that ensured she departed Erinsborough leaving viewers wanting much more.

    19th place (joint):
    Hendrix Greyson | 87 points

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    One of the final teen characters to enjoy a full-length stint on the show, rich kid Hendrix has undergone a traditional bad-boy-come-good arc since descending on Ramsay Street in 2019. Recency bias arguably explains some of the points he's accrued in this poll - though what perhaps truly raises the character above average is a standout, sassy and at times deeply moving performance by the excellent Ben Turland, which has widely been regarded as among the current show's strongest, winning Hendo a firm place in the hearts of fellow residents and viewers alike. From his initial pushback against the affections of billionaire father Pierce and his crush on stepmum Chloe, to a doomed relationship with Harlow that finally gave way to true love with Mackenzie and reconciliation with his dad, Hendrix's questionable choices along the way have led to the development of a strong moral compass, and he now stands as one of the most beloved current characters, placing third in our annual poll last year.

    18th place:
    Lyn Scully | 88 points

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    What Top 20 could be complete without Queen Lynnie, one of Ramsay Street's most memorable matriarchs? With a big heart and even bigger hair, Lyn's far from flawless as a parent or a person, but her utter devotion to Oscar, Michelle, Jack, Flick and Stephie can never be disputed. As one of the most enduring members of the Scully clan, with two regular stints and a few guest spots to boot over a 20-year period, Lyn proved she had staying power way beyond her long marriage to Joe and indeed that of most of her kids, later becoming a grandmother figure to Steph's stepdaughter Summer, and even entering into short-lived wedlock with Paul Robinson. For some, Lyn is a Marmite figure or a character best enjoyed in moderation: her mother-hen routine has been known to manifest as mollycoddling, while a bitter streak towards those who have crossed her or her brood can occasionally leave her looking like the one in the wrong. But for many, it seems, a well-meaning soft centre makes her faults easy to forgive.

    17th place:
    Mrs Mangel | 116 points

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    While enjoying a stint of little more than two years back in the mid-to-late eighties, waspish Mrs Mangel's reputation as Erinsborough's most belligerent busybody has endured through the ages, inevitably earning her a spot in our Top 20. Referred to almost universally by honorific and surname only, more out of fear than respect (except by long-suffering granddaughter Jane Harris, to whom she was always 'Nan'), Nell's reputation for nosiness and nastiness preceded her - though she wasn't all bad, reserving a small soft spot in her heart for Bouncer the dog. Vivean Gray's iconic portrayal was so effective that, in her words, she 'could barely set foot outside my own door without someone screaming abuse at horrid old Mrs Mangel' - a response that sadly drove Vivean to wrap up her role long before its time, and saw Mrs Mangel decamp to the UK with new love John for a surprise happy ending. But her barbed-wire barnet still haunts Erinsborough today, immortalised in Helen Daniels' legendary portrait.

    16th place:
    Joe Mangel | 122 points

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    From one Mangel to another, Nell's son Joe simply couldn't have fallen further from the tree. Characterised as the archetypal easygoing Aussie bloke, Joe's cheery, larrikin persona was the ultimate antidote to his mother's mean-spirited, meddling ways. Drafted in during 1988, he went on to keep the legendary Mangel name alive over the course of a three-year stint which has rendered him more or less as memorable as his mum, if this poll is anything to go by. Joe was soon thrust into the role of family man, taking on responsibility for son Toby, the product of a marriage predating his time on Ramsay Street. His second marriage to Kerry Bishop ended with her tragic death, leaving Joe with a second child, Sky, before finding happiness and an exit with third wife Melanie. Joe's return in the noughties to reconnect with a teenage Sky saw him shoehorned into a romance with Lyn Scully, generating a more mixed response from fans, but he's still fondly remembered as one of Neighbours' all-time greats.

    15th place:
    Sky Mangel | 135 points

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    The highest Mangel in our vote, Sky was re-introduced in 2003 played by the very talented Stephanie McIntosh, who put a new spin on the character and played a part in revitalising Harold and in turn, the show. Her early return storylines were heavily emotive by drawing on history, as Sky confronted the man who killed her mother Kerry at a duck hunting protest years earlier. Sky very much took after her mother, whose presence was continuously felt, especially when Sky read her diaries in 2006, which convinced her to keep her own baby despite her young age. Sky's relationships with Boyd, Lana and Dylan all had their fans, and in the 4 years she was with Neighbours, Stephanie made a huge impact as Sky, especially when her character befriended Lana, who was the first prominent lesbian character at a time when minority representation in the media was rare. Many wish Sky and Lana had become a couple at the time, and producers honoured this years later when Sky and Lana finally married as part of the 35th anniversary celebrations.

    14th place:
    Libby Kennedy | 149 points

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    As the longest-running Kennedy child, Libby rightly earns a place in the Top 15, presumably owed to the fact that Kym Valentine has put in some outstanding performances over the years, most notably when she lost her husband Drew to a horse-riding accident back in 2002, and when her mother Susan miscarried her surrogate baby back in 2009. The first ten years of her stint are more fondly remembered than the 2007-2011 reprise, as the character suffered so much tragedy in her later stint, though Kym's performances were still frequently breathtaking, particularly in the motel scenes she shared with Steph in 2010 prior to the fatal accident killing Ringo. The on screen chemistry Kym had with Alan and Jackie who played her parents Karl and Susan was in a league of its own, as was the friendship between Steph and Libby. Fans have been desperate for Libby to return to the show since her last appearance in 2014, and while it hasn't transpired, there are a good 20 years worth of episodes you can watch to see Kym in action.

    13th place:
    Julie Martin | 159 points

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    A remarkable placing for Julie, given she only appeared as part of the original cast for less than a year back in 1985, before being re-cast and appearing for two years from 1992 to 1994. Despite 28 years having passed since her death, Julie still holds a special place in the hearts of many Neighbours fans and it's not difficult to see why. Julie Mullins taking on the role in 1992 is praised as one of the best re-casts the show has ever done, not only in terms of physical appearance but in how she was performed by both actresses. Julie was played with warmth, humour and vulnerability. Deeply conflicted, it wasn't hard to empathise with her despite how abrasive she seemed on the surface. Step-son Michael didn't succeed in killing her, but her inner battles eventually took their toll, when she fell from a tower while intoxicated, having felt she had failed her marriage and family. Ambiguous as to whether Julie intentionally committed suicide, this is the only time Neighbours has touched upon this subject on screen, but it remains one of the most memorable moments the show has aired to date.

    12th place:
    Lou Carpenter | 182 points

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    Lovable rogue Lou first appeared in 1988, before being re-introduced in 1992 as a regular character, going on to become one of the show's longest-running residents. Quite remarkably, he was axed in 1996 but as his character would have done, Tom Oliver mischievously called up Woman's Own magazine in the UK to give them the exclusive that he had been axed, causing uproar which prompted the character to be reinstated. It's hard to imagine Lou not being around after that time, as he was a consistent and comforting presence in the show, and arguably one of the show's finest patriarchs. His well-received relationships with Madge and Cheryl provided plenty of story material during the 90s, but Lou's defining relationship was arguably with Harold in the 2000s and the way actors Tom Oliver and Ian Smith played off each other led to their friendship becoming one of the most-loved in the series. It's perhaps surprising that Lou hasn't cracked the Top 10 given his longevity, but fans have criticised the way the character was under-used in later years.

    11th place:
    Steph Scully | 188 points

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    A case of right place, right time, Carla Bonner just happened to be sitting in her agent's office when Jan Russ called, frantically trying to replace the original Steph, whose actress had dropped out after 3 weeks of filming. Probably for the best, as Steph Scully went on to become one of the most prolific characters in the show's history, while actress Carla took on any challenge thrown her way. Suffering from cancer twice over, once while pregnant, a failed marriage and falling pregnant to her best friend's husband, her most controversial storyline was running down and killing Ringo Brown while over the limit on her motorbike. Fans were appalled by how the character was being written, but rejoiced in her redemption arc when Carla agreed to return in 2015; an arc which ultimately made Steph feel like a more relatable character. Throughout her struggles, Steph's heart shone through and we were right by her side, resulting in her almost being voted into the Top 10 greatest Neighbours characters of all time. She also marks the highest Scully in this vote, which is well earned given Carla's extraordinary contribution to the show.

    10th place:
    Terese Willis | 210 points
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    It's perhaps no huge surprise that Terese has made the Top 10, given how popular she's proved in our annual polls - winning second place in 2020 and rising to first in 2021. But given the stiff competition in the all-time contest, including from leapfrogged stalwarts Lou and Steph, it's still a hugely impressive result. No-nonsense hospitality doyenne Terese arrived among an intake of two large new family units back in 2013, and is the only character among the Willises or Turners to have stood the test of time to the present day. With kids Josh, Imogen and Piper all long gone, Terese outlasted her marriage to Brad and an unfortunate interim relationship with Gary Canning, battling cancer and alcoholism along the way, to become the sixth bride of co-hotelier Paul Robinson, an arrangement which drew long-running hotel wars to an amicable close - that is, up until the recent breakdown in relations, which has seen Terese at her raging, volcanic best. Despite her workaholic tendencies, her devotion to family has remained in evidence - having in more recent years welcomed stepdaughter Paige, stepson Ned and niece Roxy under her wing at the house of trousersuit.

    9th place:
    Helen Daniels 
     | 213 points
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    Neighbours just wouldn't be Neighbours without the legacy of Helen Daniels, one of the show's original characters who would remain at its heart for the first twelve years of its run, beloved actress Anne Haddy remaining fiercely loyal to the show until illness made it increasingly difficult for her to continue. A doting grandmother to Paul, Julie, Scott and Lucy and constant support to their father, Helen's widowed son-in-law Jim. She would go on to nurture a whole generation of Ramsay Street teens passing through - be they distant or surprise relatives, family friends or, in later years, the offspring of her own grandchildren. An artist at heart and with a wit, wisdom and sometimes wicked sense of humour, she was a reassuring and comforting presence to those lucky enough to call her 'Gran'. She was also the keystone of the wider community; be they friend - Maria or Madge in the early days - or foe-  such as the poisonous Mrs Mangel - Helen could defuse many a neighbourly dispute with some stern words and a twinkle in her eye. Her death in 1997, falling peacefully to sleep on the sofa surrounded by friends and family, remains among the show's most moving moments.

    8th place:
    Madge Bishop
     | 268 points
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    One of Ramsay Street's most formidable figures, Madge arrived in 1986 to expand the bounds of the central Ramsay clan following the departure of mum Maria - whipping brother Max and sons swiftly into shape before being joined by her own kids, Charlene and Henry. Plain-speaking and hot-headed, Madge's choice of soulmate was a surprise to some: mild-mannered fuddy-duddy Harold. Chalk and cheese they were, but indisputably made for one another, forging one of Neighbours' great enduring partnerships. While many longer-term fans feel that Madge was different in personality on her return from a four-year break in 1996 and had lost some of the fire in her belly, the mellower Madge nonetheless became a beloved and entertaining presence for a whole new generation of fans, arguably taking on some of the grandmotherly tendencies lost to the show with Helen's death in 1997, such as by welcoming lost boys Paul McClain and Tad Reeves into her home. When Madge succumbed to pancreatic cancer in 2001, breaking Harold's heart and rocking his long-held faith, not only were there no dry eyes in Ramsay Street, but also in living rooms worldwide, as viewers mourned this most memorable of matriarchs.

    7th place:
    Izzy Hoyland 
    | 279 points
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    Next on our countdown is the irrepressible Isabelle Hoyland, who steals seventh place as Erinsborough's most venerated vixen. Descending on Ramsay Street like a whirlwind in 2003 as the naughty little sister of reliable family man Max, Izzy quickly set her sights on neighbourhood doctor Karl Kennedy, initially as a scapegoat on whom to pin her pregnancy to family foe Gus Cleary; but later, Izzy had a baby with Karl for real, Holly, forcing Susan to contend with the terrifying notion of Izzy's long-term presence in their life. Whether she's manipulating her nearest and dearest or swiping swimmers from a fertility bank, Izzy knows what she wants and, boy, will she move mountains to get it; though a nuanced performance by the wonderful Natalie Bassingthwaighte always took care to ensure viewers retained a significant degree of fondness and sympathy for the 'misunderstood' minx. Izzy's relationship with Karl and bitter rivalry with Susan generated some of the show's most entertaining and memorable melodrama which, we think it's fair to suggest, heavily contributed to fans' perception of a mid-noughties 'golden era' coinciding with much of Izzy's stint.

    6th place:
    Sonya Rebecchi 
    | 301 points
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    Fans still aren't over the tragic loss of lovely Sonya three years ago, and little wonder: she's one of those rare creations that seems to epitomise the spirit of Neighbours, embodying the best of the show's comedy, drama and pathos with equal aplomb. Played with heaps of humour and heart by the excellent Eve Morey, earth-mother Sonya first arrived in 2009 as Toadie's dog-walking love interest, and was later revealed to be the biological mum of his adoptive son, Callum - the real reason, we were told, for her arrival in the first place. The plot shone a spotlight on Sonya's troubled, addictive past, but also explained so much about her best qualities: her empathy, her belief in forgiveness, and her drive to help others overcome their demons. In 2017, Sonya and Toadie's long-running relationship faced its biggest threat when dead wife Dee seemingly sashayed back into town. In fact her identical twin, Andrea tempted the Toad into infidelity and broke Sonya's heart, leading to her relapse. But nothing could keep these soulmates apart for long - until that devastating day on the beach, that is, when she urged Toadie with her final breath to find happiness again.

    5th place:
    Toadie Rebecchi | 303 points

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    Having played various minor guest roles such as Cyborg in the 90s, Ryan Moloney couldn't shake characters with interesting names to say the least, when he was cast as guest character Toadfish Rebecchi in early 1995 as the brother of established character Stonefish. Eventually promoted to regular status, he was joined by the rest of his family, before moving in with the Kennedys in the late 90s when all of his family were already long gone. Going on to become one of the show's longest-running residents, Toadie found love with good-hearted Dee Bliss, who he disastrously lost at sea on their wedding day when he drove over a cliff into the ocean. Her body was never recovered, and Toadie settled into life at the House of Trouser, before having relationships with Sindi, Genevieve, Steph, Katya and Kelly, and then settling down with his next love Sonya. Things didn't run smoothly when it was revealed that Sonya was in fact the mother of Toadie's adoptive son Callum, but it was meant to be. Dee's identical twin sister caused trouble when she posed as the real Dee, having returned from the dead, but it turns out Dee was still alive after all. Toadie was heartbroken when he lost Sonya to cervical cancer, but he eventually found happiness again with zany Melanie Pearson. Having lived through so much on Ramsay Street, it's not hard to see why Toadie comes in at Number 5.

    4th place:
    Karl Kennedy | 308 points

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    Having previously played car mechanic Greg Cooper opposite Kylie Minogue's Charlene in 1987, Alan Fletcher took on the role of Dr Karl in 1994, moving into Ramsay Street as part of the new Kennedy family, along with his wife Susan and their kids, Malcolm, Libby and Billy. Not initially popular during the panned 1995 season, the Kennedys went on to become extremely revered, in part thanks to iconic storylines such as Karl's illicit kiss with Sarah Beaumont in late 1997, which resulted in the iconic Slap from Susan, and his relationship with manipulative Isabelle Hoyland, when he realised he wasn't happy with his life. Two lost souls drawn together, it wasn't to last, as Karl's draw to Susan proved too strong, yet Izzy's presence loomed over them in the form of Karl and Izzy's daughter, Holly, who she gave birth to on the Thames while extraordinarily crossing paths again with Karl and Susan. Karl took on the role of step-father to Susan's latest brood, Katya, Rachel and Zeke, before taking on a number of other young characters at Number 28 over the years. Karl had a penchant to dig out his guitar and sing bad songs he wrote with his old band The Right Prescription, but it's his 28-year-long on screen partnership with Jackie Woodburne aka Susan, which is most remarkable, and possibly the most iconic marriage on Australian television. Will we ever find out what's in the Blue Box? 

    3rd place:
    Paul Robinson | 324 points
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    The only original character who remains in the regular cast today, Paul was shot by his first wife Terry at the end of 1985, which set him on a path of self-destruction as far as his romantic life was concerned. Having married and divorced Gail, Christina, Lyn and Rebecca, it seemed like things might've been on the up when he settled down with 6th wife Terese, but his immoral behaviour, such as paying the mother of his grandchild Nicolette $1m to stay away, proved too much for Terese to bear, and she opted for a divorce. Having fathered 7 children to 4 mothers, Paul has packed a lot into his life, and things have rarely run smoothly. Being an absent father had a profound effect on triplets Robert, Elle and Cameron, with Robert resorting to blowing up a plane and trapping Paul down a mineshaft, thanks to the deep emotional trauma he experienced by being abandoned as a child. Many believe Paul was ruined beyond repair when he was revealed to be the arsonist who burned down the Lassiters Complex at the end of 2004, becoming a murderer in the process - a far cry from the quiet days he spent at Number 26 with father Jim and gran Helen when he was growing up. Nevertheless, no-one can deny how talented actor Stefan Dennis is, who has taken everything in his stride, and has become extremely fond of Neighbours over the years, having initially not wanted to take on the role in favour of a big film, which ironically ended up being a big Box Office flop.

    2nd place:
    Harold Bishop | 439 points
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    Introduced as Madge's old high school boyfriend from way back, religious vegetarian Harold arrived at Number 24 back in 1987, greeted by Charlene dressed in a clown's outfit, hoping to cheer up Clive. His chalk and cheese marriage to Madge was one of the classic unions of early Neighbours, but like fellow favourites Lou and Sonya, Harold was also remarkably axed, in a misstep that saw him lost at sea in 1991, much to Madge's devastation. When Neighbours drifted off course in the mid 90s, pardon the pun, producers made their boldest move yet, by bringing Harold back from the dead, and he'd been living as a man called Ted, who was working for the Salvation Army and suffering from amnesia. After reuniting, Harold and Madge spent another 5 years back in Erinsborough before she sadly passed away in 2001, which was the ultimate test of Harold's faith. He faced another tragedy in 2005 when most of his family died in a plane crash. Granddaughter Sky kept him going, and it's no surprise that Harold appears at Number 2 in this vote, as his character is the epitome of what Neighbours represents about community, friendship and morality. He was the backbone of the show for such a long time and gave it heart. When you think of Neighbours, Harold is one of the first characters who springs to mind, which is testament to how iconic and beloved both Ian Smith and Harold are.

    1st place:
    Susan Kennedy | 454 points
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    Over her 28 years in Erinsborough, Susan has been involved in too many storylines to mention, including suffering from amnesia after slipping on some milk, receiving a diagnosis of MS, being a surrogate for her daughter Libby, surviving a plane crash and dating a priest. But her most notable storylines have been when her husband Karl has strayed, first with Sarah Beaumont, and later with Izzy Hoyland. Arguably a defining moment in her time on Ramsay Street, the 2004 separation from Karl allowed us to see another side to Susan, and alongside her sparring with Izzy, we saw her grow and find her independence, as well as provide a home for Sindi and Stingray, which was one of the more entertaining living arrangements we've seen. Never apart for long, Karl and Susan were drawn to each other again, and it's one of the most enduring screen partnerships on Australian television. While Susan has been a brilliant character, Jackie as an actress has truly given us some outstanding performances over the years which tug at the heartstrings, such as when Susan found out Karl had kissed Sarah, her reaction to being diagnosed with MS, and the time Zeke was presumed dead after a rafting accident. British actor Eddie Redmayne even once thanked Alan and Jackie, citing them as role models when he won Best Actor at the Oscars. Harold was in the lead for most of this vote, before Susan pipped him to the post in the final days of voting, which almost seems fitting, given that the Kennedys essentially became the characters to represent the heart of the show once Harold's long tenure had finished. One of the saddest things about the end of Neighbours is the thought of no longer seeing Karl and Susan, who have become the surrogate parents and grandparents to generations, but we're sure Alan and Jackie will never be far from our screens.

  5. On 6/18/2022 at 8:29 PM, DRW50 said:

    Welcome back! So glad they did that for you. If you want to share any of your thoughts on the final weeks feel free.

    Thanks! 

    I'm devastated about the end of Neighbours, moreso because it feels like a victim of circumstance than anything else. Actors have mentioned in interviews that Channel 5 lost a lot of sponsorship after COVID, and I think that combined with the racism allegations have basically killed off the show, as well as the greed from Fremantle. What is hard for me to get my head around is that the ratings are still good in the UK. I know its home country doesn't care about the show, but I really thought Channel 5 would see how important it is to their schedule. I can't see it getting any other show that would draw in those audiences 5 times a week.

    The real shame is that it looks like Neighbours was finally going through a creative renewal. They finally got rid of the Cannings who were bringing the show down (Sheila through circumstance more than anything else, probably), the fandom had been calling for a new family for ages and the producers finally introduced the Rodwells. Jane's son Byron has been cast in what is likely to be a fleeting role considering the show is ending. Seeing Byron and the Rodwells (even in promo pics, Byron is yet to appear) is just a sad reminder of how much potential the show still has.

    Having said all that, 2021 was a bad year for the show creatively, and a lot of returnees have appeared in the last few years with little purpose. I was heavily critical at the time, but with hindsight, I can see the producers were trying to bring back old characters because it might've been their last chance. So I'm a bit more forgiving in retrospect. I still wish some of the newer, fresher characters like Brent had been added to the regular cast in the final year, but I'm still enjoying the show and 2022 has been much better than 2021. I'm enjoying it much more than EastEnders, and I have set H&A on record but it has no soul - my box has 58 episodes on it and I can't bring myself to watch them. I may do at some point.

    It's been a bittersweet time for me as a Neighbours fan and a bit of an emotional rollercoaster. As you mentioned, I started that petition to try and save the show which got over 67,000 signatures, the show gave me a shoutout and when I returned from some time away, I received a letter in the post from Jason Herbison. I wrote to him at the end of 2021 saying how much I thought Brent should be a regular character, and Jason wrote a letter back, saying the writers really love Brent too - and he must have showed actor Texas the letter too as he wrote a little something back and there was a photo enclosed of him holding a piece of paper saying 'Thanks Edward for the support!' I got it professionally framed and it's now hung up on my wall. There was also the drawing an artist made of most of the cast from the show's 37 year history which I'll post below. Many fans bought a copy on Etsy and I got that framed too.

    When the show gave me the shoutout, I tweeted about it, and thanked writer Shane Isheev who I was told is instrumental in writing fan shoutouts. I jokingly tweeted that the icing on the cake would be for them to send Brent over to the UK! 😂 Next thing I know I have a DM from Shane who'd asked Texas to send me a video message thanking me for my support! They really do appreciate their fans and the way the community has been there for each other at this horrible time is so touching.

    On the NeighboursFans forum, we recently conducted a vote where members voted for their Top 12 Neighbours characters of all time. I'll post the results of that here too. If people are interested, me and my friend Liam wrote up some commentary for the Top 50 which I can post here too. I bought my VIP ticket for the Neighbours Farewell tour in March 2023 and look forward to meeting some of the actors!

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    Here are the Greatest Neighbours Characters results:

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    1st place: Susan Kennedy | 454 points
    2nd place: Harold Bishop | 439 points
    3rd place: Paul Robinson | 324 points
    4th place: Karl Kennedy | 308 points
    5th place: Toadie Rebecchi | 303 points
    6th place: Sonya Rebecchi | 301 points
    7th place: Izzy Hoyland | 279 points
    8th place: Madge Bishop | 268 points
    9th place: Helen Daniels  | 213 points
    10th place: Terese Willis | 210 points
    11th place: Steph Scully | 188 points
    12th place: Lou Carpenter | 182 points
    13th place: Julie Martin | 159 points
    14th place: Libby Kennedy | 149 points
    15th place: Sky Mangel | 135 points
    16th place: Joe Mangel | 122 points
    17th place: Mrs Mangel | 116 points
    18th place: Lyn Scully | 88 points
    19th place (joint): Hendrix Greyson | 87 points
    19th place (joint): Naomi Canning | 87 points
    21st place: Chloe Brennan | 83 points
    22nd place (joint): Darcy Tyler | 81 points
    22nd place (joint): Dorothy Burke | 81 points
    24th place: Janelle Timmins | 75 points
    25th place: Jane Harris | 74 points
    26th place: Melanie Pearson | 70 points
    27th place: David Tanaka | 65 points
    28th place: Stingray Timmins | 59 points
    29th place: Cheryl Stark | 55 points
    30th place: Declan Napier | 52 points
    31st place (joint): Charlene Robinson | 51 points
    31st place (joint): Des Clarke | 51 points
    33rd place: Philip Martin | 48 points
    34th place: Jim Robinson | 47 points
    35th place: Nicolette Stone | 46 points
    36th place (joint): Eileen Clarke | 43 points
    36th place (joint): Elle Robinson | 43 points
    38th place: Daphne Clarke | 42 points
    39th place: Rebecca Napier | 40 points
    40th place: Paige Smith | 38 points
    41st place: Kerry Bishop | 36 points
    42nd place: Dee Bliss | 35 points
    43rd place (joint): Lana Crawford | 34 points
    43rd place (joint): Lance Wilkinson | 34 points
    45th place: Pam Willis | 32 points
    46th place (joint): Amy Greenwood | 31 points
    46th place (joint): Mark Brennan | 31 points
    46th place (joint): Scott Robinson | 31 points
    49th place (joint): Billy Kennedy | 30 points
    49th place (joint): Dylan Timmins | 30 points
    49th place (joint): Max Hoyland | 30 points
    49th place (joint): Max Ramsay | 30 points
    53rd place: Aaron Brennan | 29 points
    54th place: Henry Ramsay | 28 points
    55th place: Danny Ramsay | 27 points
    56th place (joint): Boyd Hoyland | 26 points
    56th place (joint): Cody Willis | 26 points
    58th place (joint): Donna Freedman | 25 points
    58th place (joint): Freya Wozniak | 25 points
    60th place: Sharon Davies | 23 points
    61st place (joint): Christina Alessi | 22 points
    61st place (joint): Jade Mitchell | 22 points
    61st place (joint): Valda Sheergold | 22 points
    64th place (joint): Andrew Robinson | 20 points
    64th place (joint): Piper Willis  | 20 points
    66th place (joint): Flick Scully  | 19 points
    66th place (joint): Frazer Yeats  | 19 points
    66th place (joint): Matt Robinson  | 19 points
    69th place (joint): Caroline Alessi  | 18 points
    69th place (joint): Hilary Robinson  | 18 points
    69th place (joint): Mike Young  | 18 points
    72nd place (joint): Angie Rebecchi | 17 points
    72nd place (joint): Brent Colefax | 17 points
    72nd place (joint): Gail Lewis | 17 points
    72nd place (joint): Rachel Kinski | 17 points
    76th place: Phoebe Bright | 16 points
    77th place (joint): Hannah Martin | 15 points
    77th place (joint): Kate Ramsay | 15 points
    77th place (joint): Leo Tanaka | 15 points
    77th place (joint): Rosie Cammeniti | 15 points
    77th place (joint): Roxy Willis | 15 points
    77th place (joint): Tash Williams | 15 points
    77th place (joint): Terry Inglis | 15 points
    84th place (joint): Chris Pappas | 14 points
    84th place (joint): Liljana Bishop | 14 points
    86th place (joint): Gaby Willis | 13 points
    86th place (joint): Joe Scully | 13 points
    86th place (joint): Yashvi Rebecchi  | 13 points
    89th place (joint): Beth Brennan  | 12 points
    89th place (joint): Britney Barnes  | 12 points
    89th place (joint): Janae Timmins  | 12 points
    89th place (joint): Stuart Parker  | 12 points
    93rd place (joint): Annalise Hartman | 11 points
    93rd place (joint): Elly Conway | 11 points
    93rd place (joint): Mackenzie Hargreaves | 11 points
    93rd place (joint): Zeke Kinski | 11 points
    97th place (joint): Brett Stark | 10 points
    97th place (joint): Levi Canning | 10 points
    97th place (joint): Marlene Kratz | 10 points
    97th place (joint): Michael Martin | 10 points
    97th place (joint): Nick Page | 10 points
    97th place (joint): Robert Robinson | 10 points
    97th place (joint): Ruth Wilkinson | 10 points
    97th place (joint): Shane Ramsay | 10 points
    97th place (joint): Summer Hoyland | 10 points
    106th place (joint): Bridget Parker | 9 points
    106th place (joint): Melissa Jarrett | 9 points
    106th place (joint): Sindi Watts | 9 points
    106th place (joint): Todd Landers | 9 points
    106th place (joint): Tyler Brennan | 9 points
    111th place (joint): Andrea Townsend | 8 points
    111th place (joint): Faye Hudson | 8 points
    111th place (joint): Rhiannon Bates | 8 points
    111th place (joint): Rick Alessi | 8 points
    111th place (joint): Taj Coppin | 8 points
    116th place (joint): Imogen Willis | 7 points
    116th place (joint): Joel Samuels | 7 points
    116th place (joint): Lucas Fitzgerald | 7 points
    116th place (joint): Maria Ramsay | 7 points
    116th place (joint): Rhys Lawson | 7 points
    116th place (joint): Richie Amblin | 7 points
    116th place (joint): Zoe Davis | 7 points
    123rd place (joint): Darren Stark | 6 points
    123rd place (joint): Debbie Martin | 6 points
    123rd place (joint): Sheila Canning | 6 points
    123rd place (joint): Susan Cole | 6 points
    127th place (joint): Callum Rebecchi | 5 points
    127th place (joint): Harlow Robinson | 5 points
    127th place (joint): Jack Scully | 5 points
    127th place (joint): Josh Anderson | 5 points
    127th place (joint): Lauren Turner | 5 points
    127th place (joint): Priya Kapoor | 5 points
    127th place (joint): Tim Collins | 5 points
    134th place (joint): Andrea Somers | 4 points
    134th place (joint): Drew Kirk | 4 points
    134th place (joint): Emmett Donaldson | 4 points
    134th place (joint): Glen Donnelly | 4 points
    134th place (joint): Lori Lee | 4 points
    139th place (joint): Angela Lane | 3 points
    139th place (joint): Clive Gibbons | 3 points
    139th place (joint): Doug Willis | 3 points
    139th place (joint): Kyle Canning | 3 points
    139th place (joint): Michelle Scully | 3 points
    139th place (joint): Mishti Sharma | 3 points
    139th place (joint): Nina Tucker | 3 points
    139th place (joint): Xanthe Canning | 3 points
    147th place (joint): Amber Turner | 2 points
    147th place (joint): Amy Williams | 2 points
    147th place (joint): Caitlin Atkins | 2 points
    147th place (joint): Connor O'Neill | 2 points
    147th place (joint): Ringo Brown | 2 points
    147th place (joint): Tad Reeves | 2 points
    147th place (joint): Ty Harper | 2 points
    154th place (joint): Bree Timmins | 1 point
    154th place (joint): Bronwyn Davies | 1 point
    154th place (joint): Dane Canning | 1 point
    154th place (joint): Danni Stark | 1 point
    154th place (joint): Finn Kelly | 1 point
    154th place (joint): Heather Schilling | 1 point
    154th place (joint): Mason Turner | 1 point
    154th place (joint): Mishka Schneiderova | 1 point
    154th place (joint): Rosie Hoyland | 1 point

     

  6. On 6/12/2022 at 5:21 PM, DRW50 said:

    I was watching an episode from a few weeks ago Australia pace (late  April  UK pace), and when Chloe and Terese were talking about generating buzz for an event, they mentioned Edward Skylover, and said the buzz he made was huge. Edward created a big fan petition to try and save the show. I am not sure if that's the  same @Skyloverwho posted here, but either way, nice that they honored a dedicated fan that way.  

    Hey, yes that was me! :D I was so thrilled by that!

  7. I'm not happy about the male rape story, either. I'm sick of them ruining Ben's character, constantly portraying him as a victim. They need to send him away and recast him again back to somebody who actually looks like Ben Mitchell.

    Meanwhile, I'm loving Sam's return. It's quiet in here. Where y'all at?

  8. 2 hours ago, Gray Bunny said:

     

    Actually, those scenes were from early 1993 when John & Marlena had sex on the Titan conference room table. It aired in primetime as a one hour special called "Night Sins," which aired before that year's Soap Opera Awards.  DAYS did this 3 years in a row, with '92's "One Stormy Night" and '94's "Winter Heat." 

    Thank you. Marlena looks breathtaking in the clips.

    I'm still loving the possession storyline!

  9. 16 hours ago, KMan101 said:

    I think it's why I perk up more when Janine is on and she's interacting with well-established characters and you can tell the actors are upping it a bit and bringing some energy. IMO. But even the Janine/Kat 'battle' over Scarlett feels flat. So far. 

    Yeah, Janine's story feels a bit flat and yet she's still a highlight because she's a great character, I agree with that.

    16 hours ago, KMan101 said:

    I will say I like that Sonia is single and becoming more of a 'matriarch', if you will. It works. I hated the years of her vs. Pauline. It never worked for me. Not everyone has to have an attitude or be a bitch EastEnders ;) lol 

    I think this is why I was a bit disappointed that it turned out Rocky isn't her dad, because it felt like they were investing in her. But on the other hand, it just means they switched to investing in Dotty/the Cottons and ultimately to me that's also a positive as I want the Cotton name to continue without Dot. Sonia does feel like she's becoming a good character. I also like overall how Kathy's been used in the last year.

  10. I can see Maisie being back in a few years when the money dries up. I'm enjoying the show at the moment. I think it's got a good cast generally (other than Stuart, Rainie, the Panesars and a few others). The problem is it feels like it's lacking energy and nothing big is going on. It doesn't feel like there are big stories bubbling under the surface.

    They've done a good job with the child recasts, I think the new Tommy and Lily are good. I think the Bobby and Dotty recasts are good too. Peter, Ben and Liam less so. Hopefully they recast Ben and Peter again down the line. They are morons for getting rid of the last Ben.

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