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Lisa Sutton (Nancy Feldman #1) is seen on The Steve Landesberg Television Show --- this was a NBC TV sketch comedy special in April? 1983. Lisa had already been recurring on NBC's Hill Street Blues since the fall of 1982.

Nice that Daniel worked on another Stephen J. Cannell show. I wonder if Mr. Cannell created the role of Barry Tarberry with DHK in mind--- someone said Barry had Mark McCormick's comic quips. Most of the time the Jack and Mary recaps leave out the friction in the marriage because of Mary's rising career and not a mention of Jack's feeling for sister-in-law Siobhan ---goes straight from being locked in the basement and the honeymoon to Mary's demise. Watching an episode at at a time, you don't notice it as much --- but seeing it in all those clips ---you realize how repetitive it could be... Sad to hear of Ron Hale's passing. A few days before the news came out, I had been looking at some old magazine articles ---and in 1979, Ron said he was probably going to leave in 1980. He said something about how 5 years was enough time and he would have done all he could do with the character by then. We were lucky to have him on the show for the entire run.

It was regarding Mary and Jack and killing Mary off I was surprised to find I still had this As I told Paul, it was about trying to keep Mary and Jack ---well only Jack--- upfront

One of the things Claire Labine said, back then, was that she didn't know how to write for a married couple. But that certainly would have been a big complication for Jack and Mary if Jack had a daughter like Kim. I always thought that if Alex McLean's daughter Sandy would have come to town and she would create problems for Alex and Mary.

Kim gives Frank the papers in 1294

Yeah, Julia's interview was 2 years later --- so the interviewer could have brought up what Claire said. It was kind of cruel for RH/ABC to let Julia go and not tell her she already had the AMC job ---Julia wouldn't have to have worried about the bad audition she gave for the unknown AMC role.

Tom was OK those last few months of his run because he was barely onscreen. After the Faith/Tom/Poppy story was quickly wrapped up, Tom MacGreevy only had 2 extremely brief appearances (one without any dialog) in the approx. 2 1/2 months before his final handful of episodes when he bit the apple. Julia Barr made it sound like she was let go by Ryan's Hope and then auditioned and hired by AMC. Julia's version fits with what soap magazines reported at the time - - that the show wanted to trim the cast and refocus on Ryan/Coleridge stories.

Perhaps she would have helped Frank with his political career, playing Rae's part in the story? Ending up with a daughter? Yes, a number of possibilities. Some on the Soapnet board thought that Rae could have instead been Frank's former Park Avenue society girlfriend, CeCe Harris. I thought something like after she and Frank broke up--- CeCe married an older wealthy man and restless CeCe could have been the one to urge her husband to financially back up and coming candidate Frank because she still had feelings for him. Her husband--- and then later Jill --- jealous of their past relationship. Even the affair ---while Frank and Jill had their campaign swing break up ---would have made sense as why Frank ended up in CeCe/Rae's bed so quickly. They also already had the backstory of the Ryan family not liking CeCe. Louise Shaffer could have still owned a newspaper and TV station with ties to reporters Jack and Mary and had her relationship with Roger.

I don't think this is RH's Lisa Sutton. This Lisa Sutton was also talking about her husband's recent health battles and in February post said she has been married to him for 35 years. RH's Lisa Sutton was listed as a couple with (former) business partner, Amy Lafayette, in a obituary of Amy's father. A few years ago, Amy filed for Marriage Dissolution/Divorce from Lisa.

Here are some Soapnet episodes that were put up over on YouTube over the last year under rogershope --- 2, 10,12, 14, 16,23, 24, 26, 28, 30, 43, 45, 46. If you click on Ryan's Hope, Part 1 playlist--- rogershope combined what TheSquirrelyGirl had put up ---with those episodes they added that I had listed above. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfFJmfIGg9Exuwf17gb5-Kw/search?query=Ryan's+Hope

Michael Levin was, briefly, in the book. He said Jack and Mary was probably his favorite story. He said soap operas are female-driven and written with them in mind. He said none of the Mary recasts were right. He said Helen Gallagher's suggestion of Kathleen Tolan was bad. Karen Morris-Gowdy said Michael was very grumpy during this time because he was frustrated --- he let everyone know how unhappy he was. Times he says he didn't have anything to do. He pushed for Tichina Arnold to be hired ---it was fun ---but not much came from Jack and Zena story. He didn't like the storyline with Jack's parents ---thought it was silly ----although it gave him certain dramatic scenes and he was flattered by the attention it gave him. He liked the return of Leigh. Michael Levin said Yasmine was very sweet and pretty. After the show ended, he said he missed the money the most.

His name is Robert Finoccoli and was on the show for about 3 months. He did have some of Malcolm Groome's Pat's mannerisms.

A new Youtube interview on Jim Masters TV with Ilene Kristen (Delia #1), Malcolm Groome (Pat #1), and Karen Morris-Gowdy(Faith #4) along with author Tom Lisante. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4o5WqYWxBE&ab_channel=JimMastersTV There really wasn't anything new said about the show --- Malcolm Groome did say he was the one who talked to Claire Labine about the Leboyer birth method and it was after that she wrote it into Mary's pregnancy story. Showed a commercial with Karen and then one with Ilene ---commercials Carl had shared with us here on the forum before. Talked about some fan encounters Ilene and Malcolm spoke a little about their Grease experience. Malcolm talked a bit about the shaman healing he does. Karen is busy taking care of her parents ranch in Wyoming and has 3 grandchildren. Author Tom is hoping to write a book that will be a combination about the soap opera Texas (another soap Tom watched) and in relation to what was happening on NBC around that time. Tom has already spoke to Richard Backus (Barry on RH and also on Lovers and Friends/For Richer For Poorer and Another World) about this book.

That would have kept both characters on the show instead of shipping them off to San Diego and the Mayo Clinic. I'm thinking they would have hired someone other than Robin Mattson to play Delia. I know very little about Douglas Marland but perhaps hired one of the previous actresses he wrote for on one of his other shows --- or would they kept Ilene and written in the weight issue as some medicine induced condition that Ilene experienced. Would Karen have put up with the misery she felt working for Joe Hardy and stayed or would they have recast Faith, too. I've always had an issue that only the female characters seemed to go therapy. Delia (and after only three months of therapy was then deemed well enough for Roger to propose to her ), Faith (and while Faith said she was seeing three different psychiatrists--- very little onscreen time was ever spent on Faith's therapy or even on her alcohol rehabilitation ---where she went straight to becoming an alcohol counselor), Amanda, and Johnny had made Siobhan a psychiatrist appointment when she was wanted to reunite with Joe. Can someone help refresh my memory ---did any male characters get therapy?

It was because of that slow late 1981 to early 1983 that Nancy Addison said she decided if another prolonged period without much to do happened again - -- she would leave the show. And she did after she had been on the backburner for 18 months (married to Frank and pregnant) when she left in January 1988.

John Sanderford (Frank #5) passed away on September 22. https://obituaries.forestlawn.com/obituaries/john-sanderford John Sanderford, a beloved actor known for his long and storied career in television, film, and commercials, has passed away at the age of 71. He was born on February 6, 1952, in Orlando, FL and departed from this world on September 22, 2023, in Burbank, CA. From an early age, it was evident that John had a passion for drama. He honed his craft by studying drama at the renowned North Carolina School of the Arts. Throughout his life, John found immense joy in the success of those he loved. A great storyteller with an infectious enthusiasm, he had a knack for captivating his listeners with tales that brought laughter and tears in equal measure. As a husband, father and grandfather, John's love knew no bounds. His dedication to his family was unwavering, and he cherished every moment spent with them. He will be remembered as a prayer warrior for everyone, always ready to offer support and kind words to those in need. John possessed a loving and generous spirit that made everyone around him feel valued and appreciated. His caring nature created a warm and safe environment where people could open up. John enjoyed immersing himself in literature through reading- finding solace in the written word. Sports also held a special place in his heart; he loved playing tennis and pickleball whenever he could. But his dedication to his faith in Jesus was truly inspiring. He never stopped learning and growing, and becoming the man God designed him to be. John faced many challenges throughout his life but approached them with unwavering determination, resilience, and faith. He fought hard until the end, demonstrating his strength and inspiring those around him, while never ceasing to praise the Lord through it all. His proudest accomplishments were the ones closest to his heart – his cherished family, the profound impact of God on his life, and his commitment to supporting those in need. John's legacy will endure through the lives he touched and the love he shared. John is survived by his loving wife of 42 years, Judi, whose unwavering support was a constant source of strength for him. Their partnership and marriage was one of incredible love and devotion. His children, Austin and Jordan, brought immeasurable joy to his life, as did his son-in-law Jeff. He adored his grandchildren, who each held a special place in his heart. He loved being the Captain to them. His mother Barbara, who is 93 years old, shares in the grief of this loss alongside John's siblings: Dave, Rick, Julia, Mary, and numerous nieces and nephews. A Funeral Service will be held on November 25th, 2023 at Forest Lawn - Glendale - Church of the Recessional in Glendale, CA. The service will begin at 2:30 PM local time to celebrate the life of this extraordinary man who touched so many hearts throughout his journey. This event will be livestreamed. https://forestlawn.livecontrol.tv/c06f1cc3?pwd=c2FuZGVyZm9yZA%3D%3D John Sanderford leaves behind a legacy that will forever be etched in our hearts. As we bid farewell to this remarkable soul taken too soon from us, let us remember him for his unwavering faith, loving nature, immense talent and indomitable spirit. We find solace in the fact that he is now and forever covered by eternal peace in the warm embrace of God Almighty.

Some Ebony Magazine comments from RH producer Robert Costello and Hannibal Penney and from March 1978 Blacks in the 'Soaps' Robert Costello, producer of ABC's Ryan's Hope, says, "The reason there aren't more Blacks or interracial relationships is not due to prejudice. It's just that Blacks must be able to be integrated into story lines. Ryan's Hope revolves around an Irish Catholic family, and by the time we finish with the stories about all of the family members, everyone else's part is peripheral. And we can't bring in a Black brother-in-law to one of the Ryan's." The lone Black actor on Ryan's Hope is Hannibal Penney Jr., who portrays Dr. Clem Moultrie, the chief resident neurosurgeon at New York's Riverside Hospital. Penney is also a contract player. "I have had a story line as director of a strike by overworked hospital doctors at Riverside, but I don't have a love interest" says Penney. "Daytime TV is all about romance, and when an actor gets a full story with a love interest, then he can discern his following and how much audience appeal he has." Penney has been with Ryan's Hope for three years.

Faith Catlin wasn't happy with her storyline on the show. Daily TV Serials Magazine - August 1976 Newspaper interview May 21, 1981 Full interview

I have wondered if Jill didn't exist in the early planning stages. Here is what Totally Kate ---webmaster of TotallyKate! The Official Website pf Kate Mulgrew---wrote on the Soapnet board 3/15/08 by TotallyKate A few years ago I happened to acquire from eBay notes about the original casting and storyline for Ryan's Hope. I had forgotten what was in it until I came across it last week when I was looking for something else. In the original bible for 'A Rage to Love', Mary has gone to the police academy to follow in the footsteps of her big brother, Frank. Frank is still a policeman and he and his partner, Saul, are involved in a case with mob connections. Saul dies and then Frank is found at the bottom of the hospital steps. Frank eventually dies and Bob Clancey (last name was changed to Reid) and Mary investigate his death as they don't believe it was an accident. Mary "quits" the police force and goes undercover taking a job at the hospital. Jack does not agree with Mary risking her life by going undercover and this breaks up the relationship that has already developed between them. Jack then starts a relationship with Faith, although both he and Mary love each other. Faith was involved with Pat but that relationship broke up after Faith wanted marriage and Pat didn't. Jack's relationship with Faith of course is wonderful for the widow Delia who wants Pat back. So everyone seems to be without the person they really love which makes for many hours of wanting them to get back to the one they love. Of course many aspects of the storyline changed drastically by the time "Ryan's Hope" made it on the air. It's interesting to note though that a lot of these original storyline ideas either ended up as backstory for the characters or as future storylines, such as the police academy and Siobhan.

It's certainly possible. Of course in those original bible notes for 'A Rage to Love' that Totally Kate got her hands on said after Jack and Mary ---and Pat and Faith --- break up they were putting Jack and Faith together. Pat and Faith were to break up because Faith wanted marriage and Pat didn't and we know 1975 Jack didn't want marriage either ---but perhaps early rough drafts versions of Jack he wasn't anti-marriage.

I've always been curious as to how long Nell's story would have continued ---and what it would have been ---if the show didn't have to shorten the story because Diana van der Vlis' health forced her to quit. A Nell/Seneca/Jill triangle? So few women doctors back then ---could Nell have become a mentor to Faith? How would she have reacted to Bucky and Reenie?

No, he was not in the book. A few actors do comment they should have done more with his character.

Yes

This was from a 1979 Michael Levin magazine interview ---he talked about the Mary recasts. Sorry the text is blurry