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Thanks! I recall Louise said that Frank was to have been part of the Merit Kara story and they had do a big rewrite with DHK's sudden departure.

I mentioned this blurb in the 1980's ratings thread. Not sure what the date of the column - which said show was experiencing ratings trouble. I was most curious about the big CP party ratings. Ratings from Jason's posts. 3-24 /6.7 3-31/7.3 4-7/7.3 4-14/6.5 4-21/6.8 4-28/6.7 5-5/5.3 End of the week was Crystal Palace opening 5-12/6.6 Continuation of Crystal Palace opening 5-19/6.1 End of Tiso and big Jack/Siobhan/Joe scenes 5-26/6.3 6-2/6.4 6-9/6.1 6-16/6.4 6-23/6.8 6-30/6.5 Sarah's last episode 7/1 7-7/6.5

Unless some new information has surfaced, 10 or 15 years ago Louise Shaffer (Rae) had said Daniel had an out clause in his contract and he could leave at any time with little or no notice and that was what he did when the strike ended. He left to star in a prime time series (columns said different shows - either Murder Ink or Chicago Story).

Ryan's Hope - I was wondering how the ratings were for the opening of the Crystal Palace and the celebrity guests (Otto Preminger, Van Johnson, and Betsy Palmer) at the party the week of the 12th. Another story was building up, and the following week of May 19th was the end of Tiso and big with Jack/Siobhan/Joe. I recall a column, sometime near this time, and the same column that announced that Sarah Felder was let go, also said the show was having "ratings trouble". MAY 12 - MAY 16, 1980 RYAN'S HOPE Dee threatened to sue Faith for prescribing the wrong medication for little John when she was drunk. Kim continued to use Michael to make Seneca jealous. Frank and Jill argued over Jill's work priorities. Dee introduced Rae to everyone as Roger's lover at the successful opening of the Crystal Palace. MAY 19 - MAY 23, 1980 Jack was wounded before he broke Tiso's neck. Siobhan refused to run off with Joe, who split after swearing he wasn't involved in Mary's murder. Siobhan retaliated that his drug business was the cause. Barry convinced Dee not to sue Faith. Frank talked Faith out of resigning since little John is mending. Joe was reported murdered. Kim lied to Michael that Seneca had led her down the garden path.

I think those gift boxes may have been given out by Labine & Mayer and they weren't with the show when Louise was fired.

Yes - and the ones who are favored often don't even realize, or notice, the bullying the others are subjected to

@DRW50 Thank you for filling in some details - there is always so much to remember. I thought there would be more said about Michael Levin. I had suspected that, among that foursome, Rose and Gordon would be the talkers.

Another good reunion. Rose sound issues resolved. Some of her comments were things she told the Soapnet forum. Some comments ( that I can remember) Heard before that Gordon didn't feel his storyline belonged on Ryan's Hope. Already knew that Merit Karah was Claire (and Paul) idea. ABC backed the story. Gordon was so thin on RH that some thought he was on drugs - he said he was just happy. He didn't want a going away party. Richard had done a play with Kate Mulgrew in 1975. Michael Levin was also in that theater group. Karen was hired when the show had to scramble and find a new Faith quickly when Catherine Hicks landed a role on Broadway. Many actors helped newcomer Karen and felt like family to her. Karen said the cast and crew loved producer Ellen Barrett. Rose was the last contract player under Labine & Mayer. She was going to be replaced after the first month and I don't think she explained what changed the shows minds. Ellen Barrett was a bully to Rose. (This is what we heard on the SN board. There were other actors who felt the same) She mentioned the incest story with Rose and her father. Rose was asked to take a pay cut for the fist year. This was a sign to her that she wasn't going to be on the show more than a year. Rose said that Earl Hindman took a pay cut. Rose had previously auditioned for GH and The Edge of Night before being on RH. Gloria Monty told Rose "Don't trip over the wire" Rose and Ron Hale were close. Rose told of Roscoe Born's first day and how his scene to 27 takes. Rose said the Rh taping schedule was torture. Karen thought the taping reminded her of theater. Rose explained that she didn't like how they had to stop while the camera was moved onto the next scene (different set and actors) to film and had to wait around to get back to continue your scene. Especially hard if you were doing an emotional scene. Richard said Trent Jones didn't want to be killed off. Trent once wore a T-shirt that said Ken George Jones and The Inoperable Tumors. He said Sarah Felder was very upset about being fired (for not being a romantic lead) and Sarah let them have it at her going away party Gordon shared Dynasty memories and Joan Collins thought he was too old to play her son. Richard shared As the World Turns head writing memories. Karen said it was easier to play drunk Faith than sweet Faith. She missed acting but not enough to return. Her kids did not want to act. Rose shared memories of Guiding Light. Rose didn't stay for her party after she was fired. Her going away party was also for Michael Corbett (also fired)

Another Ryan’s Hope reunion live in The Locher Room on Wednesday, May 17th at 3 p.m. EST / 12 p.m. PST. This reunion salutes the 1980 – 81 years featuring Rose Alaio (private eye Rose Pearse), Richard Backus (the two-timing Barry Ryan), Gordon Thomson (Egyptologist Aristotle Benedict-White) and Karen Morris Gowdy (Dr. Faith Coleridge).

Okay! Thanks! He was also involved with his other RH co-star Maria Pitillo (Nancy Don)

Thank you! I'm not that familiar with those episodes, either. This is news to me that Ryan's Hope ever did a live broadcast! Wonder what the circumstances were that led to them going live. Can't wait to give a look when I get the chance.

Patrick James Clarke might have been working as Pat #4. Labine & Mayer were the ones that wanted Malcolm Groome back when they rejoined the show. Though glad to have Malcolm Groome back, magazines were sorry to seem Jimmy Clarke go. On the Soapnet board, for those who started watching after 1979 and before 1983, Jimmy Clarke was their first Pat and they really liked him. The recasting let up a bit as the show went on. While they recast Frank and Siobhan, they brought Roscoe Born back for a short stint, to kill off Joe instead of recasting the character, after Walt Willey. If it is true the network saw Pat as a secondary character, that could be why they didn't recast after Malcolm Groome left for the second time. The show didn't recast characters like Rick (Grank Show) or Maggie (Cali Timmons). I wonder if they would have eventually given in and recast Jill. Shortly before the show was cancelled, a newspaper article said the show asked Nancy Addison to return and she declined. Jill was gone for a year and some decision had to be made about keeping Jill and baby Mary separated from Frank for so long.

Someone put 2 of the Soapnet episodes up that were missing on YouTube #23 #24

Sorry if this was already posted. I missed it if it was in the political thread or in any of the other soap operas he was on threads...Richard Backus (Barry) ran for the New Hampshire House this past election-- https://indepthnh.org/2022/10/26/from-hollywood-to-holy-weird-from-broadway-to-oddway-actor-writer-and-nh-icon-richard-dick-backus-takes-his-shot-at-public-office/ Results https://www.redding.com/elections/results/race/2022-11-08-state_house-NH-31911/

He was also Maeve Ryan's Danceland competition partner David Noonan/ or Newman(SOD) on Ryan's Hope in 1982.

Looking at that cover again, I am surprised there isn't anything green or Irish on the cover.

Thanks, Slick. While those words scream soap opera -- they are not exactly the first words I would think of to describe this unique, down to earth, daytime drama. The words were ,maybe, chosen to catch the attention of soap opera fans in general-- and beyond just Ryan's Hope -- which has a loyal but smaller fan base -- and probably limited sales potential. Looking forward to the book.

After the last 20 so years of reading message boards and hearing stories, I have never heard that reason...or read any reason why Katherine Justice was filling in

Thank you, Slick! Listening to Ariana Muenker (Amanda #2) and see that in 1983 they still continued the practice of having replacement actors walking around the studio in front of the actors. Michael Hawkins said he always knew when they were looking at Frank actors. We were told on the SoapNet MB , that Sarah Felder found out she was going to be let go when she saw Siobhan actors lined up in the halls(even though they didn't bring on a replacement right away)

I'm not sure if this was mentioned to you already but Michael Pavel Sr. was seen very briefly on the show. He is the man who interrupts Joe and Siobhan's conversation. I don't know the actor. He is seen at approx. 8:27.

MacKenize Allen (Jim Speed) was in a handful of episodes of The Bold and the Beautiful in 1987. He played Charles Garner- who worked with Caroline and showed a brief interest in Kristen. Also in this episode is Ann Gillespie's (Siobhan #2) husband, Jeff Allin, as a evidence technician. He later returned to play Lt. Burke on the show. MacKenzie is seen at approx. 6:36 & 15:29. Jeff at 5:31 & 14:11

LOL! At the time of Delia's real therapy with Dr. Pagano, after the Ryan family finally distanced themselves from her, Roger asked Bob about Delia and their mother. Bob told him the mother spoiled Delia and would also do things for Delia - he said Maureen mostly spoiled Delia out of guilt. All Delia usually said was her mother worked hard, was always tired, and looked much older than her age -- from Bob we got more of the story. Their father was in a mental institution for many years and he passed on before his wife. Bob said, being a boy, he was expected to take care of himself.

Great ideas...Really Great! Any child of Mary's would have come even later than two years, though. Mary only became pregnant in late 1976 after Kate's real life unplanned pregnancy. Kate wrote in her book that when she told Claire she was pregnant and told her she may have to quit and that was when Kate wrote it was after that when Claire came up with this idea of making Mary pregnant, too, to help keep Kate on the show. Would any future (after 1977) baby Ryan have belong to Mary & Jack or Mary & someone else? Also have wondered what Mary and Jack's s/l was going to be before Kate's pregnancy changed the direction. Publications said there was going to be a Jack/Mary/ Alex triangle. While I liked corny Alex, just don't see that him as being a big enough rival for Jack. Even with Jack's claims that Alex was really a wolf in sheep's clothing. I also think, if not for her pregnancy, Kate might have left in July and not stayed on the extra 6 months. Sure she felt indebted to them to stay a little longer for what they did for her, but most likely her ever growing baby bump had put a stop on her pursing other roles there for a while

I would have preferred they just have Mary leave town instead of killing her off. They sent Pat, Frank, and Siobhan away. Claire from December 1979 "When you have a happily married couple like Jack and Mary you lose plot flexibility. We couldn't separate them romantically. The audience wouldn't have accepted it. Frankly, Paul and I were unequal to the task of keeping them married and still providing a front-burner story for Jack, who maintained incredible audience appeal." So the viewers weren't accepting the recasts of Mary- yet I find it interesting that she says the audience wouldn't accept Mary and Jack breaking up. There was another quote, which I cannot find right now, where Claire, again said, she has trouble writing for married couples.

Here's some of what I recall from Louise Shaffer's Locher Room YouTube interview Louise's favorite role was Serena/ Josie on The Edge of Night She had watched Ryan's Hope and wanted to be on it Claire wanted to bring a bitch character on to the show Louise told her she wanted Rae to show no conscience and just go after what she wanted...freedom to not be evil or bad but just driven She was brought on to screw up Frank and Jill's story and then be gone RH writer Jeffrey Lane came up with the Rae has a daughter, Kim, story that kept her around Louise shared a dressing room with Kelli Louise thought Kelli had charisma and as long as Kelli stayed on the show Louise would always have a job She said Kelli was 17 or 18 ..guess she doesn't know about Kelli saying she was only 14 when she started on RH Louise felt Michael Corbett and other men on the show didn't get enough appreciation Michael was a smart actor and physically beautiful Talks about when Rae slapped Kim. They rehearsed and was getting late and Kelli said to Louise "just hit me" Said good things about Helen Gallagher and how Helen always played the characters backstory Other things She called taking the role of Stephanie on Search For Tomorrow a the mistake of a lifetime but she needed the job and the money ... and with a character and actress as popular as Stephanie and Maree there should have been more time between when she left and the role was recast She was terrified of Mary Stuart during her first run on SFT...second time she and Mary had more in common including how they both liked writing When Louise was there she felt Lisa Peluso was ready to move on She had fun playing Goldie on All My Children She hated writing for daytime She said her favorite soap characters to write for were Kathryn Hays and Martha Byrne's characters on As the World Turns Said James Mitchell (Where the Heart Is) was amazing and he gave her some help for one of her books She'd take the right acting role if it were offered today