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Thanks @DRW50, I didn't remember that Louise was interested in resuming acting at that time -- wanting to play a different role -- play something funny.

It's a wonderful surprise when an actor you know appears unexpectedly like that on screen.

Maureen Garrett (EJ Ryan) in a 1985 Crayola markers commercial at approx. 9:13. I figured this commercial is in the GL board but didn't recall seeing it posted here during this partial RH episode. The entire episode was already up without commercials.

@DRW50 The things Faith said were vicious. Jill should have shut Faith up by telling Faith that she sounded like her mother. That might have made more sense if we later learned what Faith said were things Judith whispered in her ear while Faith was growing up. A life-long rivalry idea could have been good. I wondered if Judith got pregnant with Faith on purpose (doesn't seem that was the case) -- after she figured out Jill was Ed's child (which I thought she knew). Then have Judith foster a competition by pampering Faith, spoiling Faith, and also pushing little Faith to be Ed's favorite while Judith was ignoring, passing over, and brushing aside Jill and trying to get Ed to do the same. But that's not how it was It was clear from the beginning that Roger was the one Faith hated all her life though there were claims otherwise later on --like when married to Tom, Faith told Roger she loved him even when he was taunting her by telling her her dolls didn't like her. Also in the beginning Faith said she had a competitive relationship with Roger and that was one of the reasons she chose Neurology as her field. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In the notes, characters would say Ed was Jill's father or say adopted father, but Jill and other would refer to Judith as her step-mother. That was the correct -- but only Maeve would know that until 1982. BTW- Does anyone who watched originally know the details of what Maeve says about why Ed kept it a secret even after Judith passed away? Or why Maeve still kept it a secret after Ed died?

Jill was 2 when Ed brought her to the states. Faith wouldn't have been born for another 4 years-- so she would have never known a time, happy family or not, that Jill wasn't there.

I recently moved and going through old boxes with notes taken when watching the SN show airings and notes reading the SN forum over the years and I had questioned how old was Faith when Judith died. In 1976 -- Roger told Delia he was 10 when his mother died - -that means Jill was 11 and Faith was 5 (In 1977, Roger told Rae he was 5 years older that Faith and was 1 year younger that Jill.) In 1980, Faith recalled Roger getting in trouble when she was 16 and Judith not punishing him. In 1981, Faith tells Aristotle Benedict White the story of smoking cigarettes with Judith while they watched the film Now, Voyager -- she said she was 13 at the time. Back in 1977 when Miriam was introduced -- she tells Seneca that after Mrs. Coleridge died -- she brought up Jill and Faith --and did the best she could with Roger. That fits with the Coleridge kids being young when Judith died. A few weeks later, Jill and Miriam talk about Miriam moving in with the family for one summer ( Miriam sent her kids to stay with her sister down south) Jill said she was 11 or 12 at the time. It was the first time Jill felt like she had a mother. If Faith was older at the time, over 16, Jill would be 22 and Roger 21 or older -- it would be odd for Miriam to say she was raising Jill and Roger at that older age. Seeing how Jill felt about the Coleridge house never feeling like her home -- I always figured she moved out at 18. Several other things Faith mentioned over the years -- When Pat proposed to Faith -- she mentioned observing her parents marriage as a teenager (this would be before Miriam was introduced)-- recalling how Ed and Judith would sit in the parlor and discuss their day (I always thought it to be a cold and distant relationship but this conveyed there was some closeness between Ed and Judith ) and the parties they threw. Judith had a 4 minute egg every morning of her life. Some things I don't know if a kid of 5 (and younger), even as smart as Faith, would have picked up on.

Part 2 with Louise Shaffer and Tom Lisanti

Louise Shaffer and Tom Lisanti on The Diana Montfort show. They mention the 50th anniversary and the talk a lot about the years Rae was on the show

Thanks! Helen had a little over a week off at this time to film Roseland scenes. They wrote Maeve going to Pittsburg to help an injured Kathleen. Most of her other work on the film was done at night.

Tristan Rogers is one of the guests on AM Philadelphia in September 1986.

John Martin and Christine Jones on AM Philadelphia in September of 1986.

Ilene Kristen is one of the guests on AM Philadelphia in September 1986. She says something about being back on the show 3 weeks. GH's Tristan Rogers, OLTL's John Martin and Christine Jones are also guests. I have not watched the entire episode to know if Christine speaks of her time on Ryan's Hope. Ilene speaks of beginning as a dancer. Delia's son went from 10 to 19 years old and that she was now a grandmother. She talks about leaving the show the first time after giving all she had to give to the role and wanting to go to California. She talks about how she does a lot of theater (brings up her Leona Helmsley role). She said the previous time she returned, she didn't think the show really wanted the comedic aspects she was trying to bring but now it was wonderful that the show is allowing her to play Delia as more comedic.

I'm unfamiliar with Louise's other daytime roles, she did say in the book that she had a "type" she usually played --- which was aristocratic, rich bitch, emotional and icy. In a old SOW atricle, she said her favorite scenes were Rae as businesswoman. Louise seemed like real team player even though she was not part of the show's (actors) clique. It was in Louise's old Blog Talk Radio interview that I first heard about the clique, there she also said she was a good cheerleader for the show and she was sent out to do press during the Prince Albert and Merit Karah stories because they knew she would put a positive spin on story.

^^Thanks for the Helen sighting, Carl! I also see James Naughton who had an episode as a creepy doctor hitting on Jill in 1977. Here is a 3 part interview Tom Lisanti did with the RH lighting director, Dennis Size, after the book was published. Rose Alaio had told us the Ann Gillespie in the Ryan kitchen story on the Soapnet forum. Part 1 begins at the bottom of the page https://sixtiescinema.com/

It was one of the bigger disappointments that Sarah wasn't part of the book.

Yes, that was probably the case. In the book, after Malcolm Groome (Pat) said he dated Kathleen Tolan, he said he saw her theater work and found her to be "compelling and charismatic actress" In one of Ilene Kristen's many video interviews promoting the book, she also praised Kathleen.

In a video intetview, it was Richard Backus (Barry) who said Sarah told everyone off at her goodbye party. On the Soapnet forum, Rose Also and Sean, the MemoryBook webmaster ( he also posts here) both told us Sarah had been fired. Everyone on the board was shocked. For some reason noobody recalled that. In more recent years, it's been easier to find old press clippings that show that her dismissal was announced in newspapers and magazines. Sean also told us that many of Sarah's castmates were not sorry to see her go. One of the columns about her firing in 1980 said that Sarah "raised the ire" of her co-workers. On the SN board, we were told that Sarah would speak negatively about the show to the press. For example, she reportedly criticized the show for dumping the Pat/Nancy interfaith storyline. The network didn't like Sarah speaking out like that On top that, there were the issues with Sarah not being glamorous enough --- Richard Backus described it as Sarah wasn't seen as a romantic lead

Those descriptions of Mary Carney-- from Michael Levin --were from a magazine article in the early 1980's. In the book, he did say all three Mary replacements were bad.

I really liked her. Michael Levin (Jack) felt Mary Carney was too low-key (in comparison - he called Kathleen Tolan electric). Ilene Kristen (Delia) said in one of the many book promoting interviews that Mary Carney wasn't right for the role. In one of the interviews about the Dutch version of the show, Paul Mayer said "the trick with these kind of series is to keep the boy and girl apart for as long as possible" so I wonder how Mary and Jack's story would have played out if Kate hadn't become pregnant (or if they hid the pregnancy).. beyond what was said in the press of having a Jack/Mary/Alex triangle. Roger was interested in Mary for half a second. Roger/Delia appears to have been planned all along as Roger was listed as being part of the original Delia/Pat/Faith story that was to happen when the show first began and had Frank dying.

Lisa Sutton (Nancy Feldman #1) is seen on The Steve Landesberg Television Show --- this was a NBC TV sketch comedy special in April? 1983. Lisa had already been recurring on NBC's Hill Street Blues since the fall of 1982.

Nice that Daniel worked on another Stephen J. Cannell show. I wonder if Mr. Cannell created the role of Barry Tarberry with DHK in mind--- someone said Barry had Mark McCormick's comic quips. Most of the time the Jack and Mary recaps leave out the friction in the marriage because of Mary's rising career and not a mention of Jack's feeling for sister-in-law Siobhan ---goes straight from being locked in the basement and the honeymoon to Mary's demise. Watching an episode at at a time, you don't notice it as much --- but seeing it in all those clips ---you realize how repetitive it could be... Sad to hear of Ron Hale's passing. A few days before the news came out, I had been looking at some old magazine articles ---and in 1979, Ron said he was probably going to leave in 1980. He said something about how 5 years was enough time and he would have done all he could do with the character by then. We were lucky to have him on the show for the entire run.

It was regarding Mary and Jack and killing Mary off I was surprised to find I still had this As I told Paul, it was about trying to keep Mary and Jack ---well only Jack--- upfront

One of the things Claire Labine said, back then, was that she didn't know how to write for a married couple. But that certainly would have been a big complication for Jack and Mary if Jack had a daughter like Kim. I always thought that if Alex McLean's daughter Sandy would have come to town and she would create problems for Alex and Mary.

Kim gives Frank the papers in 1294