Everything posted by Soaplovers
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
Anita... karma is calling and her name is Silk Press Sheila. When I watch Silk Press Sheila, I realize that there are times that she reminds me of Gina of Santa Barbara fame (MVJ got her start in soaps at Santa Barbara)... and I think having SPS be to the Duprees what Gina was to the Capwells is delish. It's also been nice getting a break from Dani. Her domineering/controlling ways stifled Chelsea.... look at her wardrobe for today.
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
I think I read in one of the interviews given by MVJ for the 100th episode that Febreze and Tide will be coming back vacation soon
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
Maybe she's trying to be like her cousin Kat... but Kat's looks just work for her.. can't say that this attempt is a winner for Chelsea.
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Another Life
I think the fact that Another Life wasn't airing on a network is why they were able to explore/tackle issues and out of the box situations. Who knew that a Christian station was less intrusive then a network and/or P & G.
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
Leslie and Eva would be nourve riche... which in the eyes of the Duprees would still be 'have nots'.
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
Remember the 13 week cycle rule, but I agree that it would be a disaster if all of those performers opted to leave when their contracts are up for renewal. I do think that the actors playing Vernon and Anita have different contract terms and outs that some of the other performers do not have.
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
MVJ should have watched how Bill Bell wrote Sheila on B & B from 1992 to 1995 where she had moments where she was human, acted rational, but would sometimes veer toward acting up if she was threatened. And she wasn't campy at all. How Sheila Carter was written during those 3 years was exactly how SPS should be written.
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
With all due respect, perhaps you should think about watching Hallmark Channel movies since you'll be guaranteed to have the heroes win and the villains pay. Soap operas haven't been about the villains getting their just dessert since the 90s, unless they become completely unhinged... and she isn't quite there yet. And quite frankly, this soap doesn't really have any heroes.....Vernon and Anita aren't heroes to me. I view them and the rest of the Duprees as the antagonists/villains.
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
Silk Press Sheila could stay on the soap for a few years before her crimes are exposed. It has been done before, so if the writers were smart.. they would keep SPS as somewhat over the top with human moments mixed in. In fact, Sheila Carter lived/existed on B & B from 1992 to 1995 without her crimes from Y & R being found out. There were periods in that 3 year period where she was almost exposed, but something would interfere with her being found out. The only reason she was finally exposed was that there was a breakdown in contract talks so she was exposed and carted off to a mental hospital.. then returned months later for another few years. However, I don't know if BTG can keep SPS on for three years with the way they're burning through story. It would help if the show focused on her life outside the Dupree bubble a bit more.
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
Also, based on the recent twist on Friday in regards to Derek/Ashley/Andre... I think MVJ also seems to love doing the Passions route of no plot movement. Derek and Ashley broke up.. now she feels guilt so she'll try to nurse him to health while Derek will eventually be able to walk and will pretend he still can't walk in order to keep Ashley close to him... while Andre will go back to Dani with his tail between his legs and continue the abusive situation that he and she have been in. It seems as though Andre/Ashley are being set up as the star crossed lovers with Derek and Dani conspiring to keep them apart. That's my theory on the next stages of this plotline will go... with poor Shanice being kept on the sidelines.
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
I do agree that the Barbara reveal was always planned to be the twist to keep Silk Press Sheila in the mix, but I think the show made a miscalculation by actually showing her as the one to run Laura off the run instead of keeping that all off screen. @Cheap21I don't think Vernon is the father, I just fear that the show might go there in order to provide a 'twist' instead of going the logical route of Dante being the real father. It sounds as though Dante played a big part in Anita's life in a not so great way so having his daughter SPS/Leslie be a thorn in Anita's life would be interesting. I think the show does a great job at writing a climax and revealing a secret... it just needs to work on hitting all the beats of the story post climax/secret reveal.
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Another World Discussion Thread
I don't buy that Monty caused the destruction of daytime. She managed to figure out how to save a show from the brink of cancellation.. and the ratings were sky high in the early 80s on GH. I think what really destroyed daytime was a variety of factors such as cable, more people working outside the home, the OJ Simpson trial, and the final nail was actually Reilly when he did the Marlena possession story (ratings increased.. but only for a short few years). In terms of AW, I think the issues involving their decline was partly due to the 90 minute expansion, losing Iris to a spin off, writing bland stories, and casting non descript performers.
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
While I don't think MVJ should be run out on a rail... she is nowhere close to Agnes Nixon nor Bill Bell. She needs a strong co-head writer that is an outsider and can be objective. She's too emotionally invested in the show and can't be objective (most creators have that very issue) about things that aren't working. Guza was only there short term to help her launch it, and I don't think his replacement is a strong enough creative to give her a dose of reality when something isn't working. As for the show, here were my thoughts on today's episode: - The one thing the show has managed to do is provide throwaway lines that might be foreshadowing. Case in point with Silk Press Sheila mentioning how she lost her virginity to The Articulettes.. and now she's revealed to be Barbara's daughter. So I have a sinking feeling that Anita and Dani's elitist comment to Eva about never being a Dupree could foreshadow Vernon being Silk Press Sheila's biological dad. If that happens, it makes all the male characters the bad guys (even though I don't blame Bill for cheating then dumping Dani)... and it continues to add only female Duprees when male Duprees are needed more.
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DAYS: August 2025 Discussion Thread
Trying to make Sophia a viable spoiler for Tate/Holly is like trying to get oil and water to mix.. it's an impossible task. The show did have a viable spoiler for Tate/Holly in Doug III, but our newest headwriters decided to 86 his character instead of just cutting their losses with the Sophie character.
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
I've been saying for awhile that the show is being run and written by a group of people letting their feminist fantasies/wet dreams come into play. Basically an overcorrection of past soaps where the women were under written... but the problem is that there are very few likable female characters on this show.
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
No, but it would be the logical direction to go.
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And Just Like That...
Basically this show was a cash grab, like the out of touch 2nd movie. Kim Cattrall was smart to sit this out because I dread to think what the show would have done to Samantha had she opted to be on either in a recurring, or full time cast member of the show. With that said, I think it was perfectly in character for Samantha to have relocated from NYC due to the pandemic.. but out of character for her to cut off contact with Carrie and the others due to work related issues. At least she was mentioned throughout the first two seasons and had a nice cameo in one of the episodes showing she was still fab and living her life. Which of the three women do you all think wasn't ruined beyond repair? Carrie? Miranda? Charlotte? And which of the newbie female characters did you all think had good cast chemistry with the three main characters?
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
If the pacing of all the stories was better, then I think people would have patience for it... especially if there was progress and focus. Had the kids been 6/7/8 years old.. then the story could have been like the movie 'Losing Isaiah' where the mom that lost custody of her child fights the new adoptive/foster mom for custody once she cleans up. With the kids now aged up to 16/17... I think it wouldn't be a custody story.. but a look into why Tyrrell and Samantha are the way they are. Why is Tyrrell more withdrawn/passive and why is Samantha overly confident... and how do they deal with seeing the woman that caused them extreme trauma when they were growing up.. and their fear of losing the stable family life with her coming back into the picture.
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
Back in the heyday of soaps, the June story would have happened on a completely separate lane then the going ons of her real children (Tyrrell and Samantha). It would have spanned months and/or even a year plus with June slowly getting her life back on track, getting help for her mental health issues, trying to find a job and place to live.. making new friends and then without warning, she sees either Tyrrell or Samantha and thinks they look familiar. Then bam, she wonders if they're her children and she seeks out Naomi for assistance and trying to determine the best course of action. The benefits of a soap opera is seeing all the beats of a story play out in real time, but we just met June a few months ago and I think this whole June discovering that Tyrrell and Samantha are her children could have waited till at least November sweeps. And I remember the actor that played Smitty mentioned originally the kids were suppose to have been 6 or 7 in the pre-production stage of the show and the ages were bumped up. When that happened, MVJ and writing team needed to figure out how to change the June story to fit with the modified ages of the kids. Also, the Chelsea/Allison/Madison story could have worked if the beats of Chelsea's time with Allison had been shown more then just a few snippets and one conversation where Allison turned down a chance to make their encounters more meaningful then just hooking up. In order to care about a fatal attraction story, we need to see all the beats play out. Perhaps the writing and production team need to rent Fatal Attraction from 1987 in order to figure out how to plot a story like the Chelsea one properly.
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
The June storyline reeks of 'Afterschool Special' and 'A very Special Episode' rolled into one. It's unrealistic and the soap writers need to watch old episodes of soaps in their heyday in order to learn about pacing and scene set up. I don't think Kat is asexual.... I think she jumped headfirst into sleeping with Tomas in order to keep him interested and away from her half sister Eva. I like that the soap are playing the beats of this trio and wish that this mindset could be applied to the other plotlines. In regards to MVJ, we all have to remember she spent years under Bell at B & B so she's sadly picked up his bad habits. The Dani/Bill/Hayley triangle could have been good... but she seems to think Dani walks on water and that she's the best thing to ever happen to Bill when they're a toxic coupling.... and Hayley has potential.. but only if a proven head-writer were bought in and MVJ is removed as show runner. I say this because most shows seem to do better when the creator isn't running the day to day story (I think they can't be objective). Not everyone can be a Bill Bell.
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
Naomi proves she's a Dupree through and through with her actions today... she certainly is more like her mother (lacking the ability to read a room, or to be sensitive to someone's issues) then she would like to admit.
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
Leslie would be new money... which is a 'Have Not' in the eyes of older money like the Duprees.
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Another World Discussion Thread
Also, the show tried to get Maeve Kinkaid to return as Angie.. which I think had she agreed to come back.. it would have given Gwen something else to do other then her out of character hatred for Rachel and the Cory's. Also, Angie had been a neighbor of Ada's... and her mother Rose and Ada were friends so she would have also interacted with Rachel/Ada.. and she also had ties to the Matthews as well.
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
I'm wondering if maybe she's a product of Barbara and who ever that individual was that caused the group to break up.
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
After 110 episodes, I can safely say that the show seems to be perceptive about when to feature characters and/or plots again after they spend time on the far backburner. We all were saying how Silk Press Sheila was becoming one note and stagnating.. but today we got something new for her.. and it gave the actress something fun to sink her teeth into. I'm still very baffled and confused over the Hayley story... and if I'm not mistaken, she had the follow up examination with Bill in the appointment with her. Is the doctor in on her fake pregnancy ruse as well? However, I would be lying if I said I didn't care one bit about this random and odd story arc Hayley is in right now.... I'm excited to see what will come next in this odd tale.