Chris B

It doesn't make any sense that Kim was fired or that they were forced to give her a second season for her SUCCESSFUL show. Look at Bravo's recent big November premiere week. Besides the two housewives shows, everything flopped hard--even Top Chef which is normally successful. Kim's first season did VERY well and is the highest rated amongst similar shows on Bravo. It averages 1.6 million viewers, that's better than what Bethenny was getting at the end. They would've been stupid not to renew the show. Even Flipping Out gets season after season and it can barely get 1 million viewers. I agree with everyone that Kim is a disaster, but it can't be denied that people love to watch her. I think for RHOA that Nene and Kim have always been the main draws. They are the mainstream breakout stars. I don't think it's a good thing to lose either of them. If Nene were to leave at the end of this season I truly believe the show would flatline. Losing Sheree has hurt this show and losing Kim is another major blow. I still say if Marlo was around the show would be able to handle these exits better. She was larger than life, like Kim, Sheree and Nene and could draw people in. Porsha and Kenya are just too basic to do that, although I think Kenya will be a successful part of the next few years of this show.

You know, I still find BH to be in the Honeymoon phase. It reminds me so much of the early years of OC or NYC before things got too crazy. I long for those seasons where it didn't depend on huge, dramatic fights. You got to see their family lives and their relationships develop. Nothing can top the first three seasons of NYC for growth and consistency. I wish somebody would try to emulate that, instead of all the craziness. I also think ATL was rock solid until this season.

I don't know if I've seen more than one or two episodes with Rita, but she looks gorgeous in that picture. Reminds me a bit of Marissa Ramirez from GH and Y&R.

Thank god! I saw that on Tumblr and almost had a heart attack lol.

She worked so hard to stay in Beverly Hills, you'd think she'd work harder to look good.

Miami had another one of the Best of the Best Housewives episodes this week. I *loved* seeing all the different parents interact. It was a change of pace and something you don't get to see often. This is something that will forever be unique to Miami and they executed it very well. Elsa seemed so out of place with competition for screentime. She didn't seem to want anything to do with those old ladies lol. Lenny's mom HATED Lisa and that was entertaining. She should've been more respectful in her comments though. I hope that Lenny's mom gives her more hell. Adriana was great as well. I loved the party she threw for Frederick's parents. One thing that annoyed me was seeing Thomas at the party. Luckily he didn't do anything crass, but I hate the thought that he could've ruined such a nice event. Frederick's parents are too old for that nonsense. I'm looking forward to reports from the reunion which is currently filming.

The latest episode of RHOBH beat RHOA by 100,000 viewers. I thought that RHOA was typically higher than the others (like NJ) so it was shocking to see BH beat it. I know RHOA premiered high, but right now it's not bringing the heat. I expect the ratings to go up with Kim's exit and then they need to hope the Aguilla episodes are soon.

Yes. Beverly Hills is more traditional like New York or the first 5 seasons of OC where you can expect drama, but mostly the wives truly do show their lives and are friends and you get to see these stories develop over the years. Miami, ATL and NJ is more about staging the next big fight although we do get some family moments on there.

I think BH is wonderful. The scenes don't feel like filler and it's a true soap that ebbs and flows. It reminds me of the older seasons when you didn't have to be fighting and screaming every second to be considered interesting.

I agree. Her craziness was the best part. The show is as dull as dishwater this season. We have a bunch of filler scenes and the scenes with Kim are the only ones with gravitas. Like Teresa, she's a big talking point. Her stupidity, Sweetie, the reaction she gets from the others, etc. is golden tv. Andy Cohen was on Wendy Williams and she said the new season was boring too. He said that the trip to Aguilla brings the ladies together "in an interesting way" and that the season kicks off from there. We'll have to wait and see if that's true. I do notice mostly everything featured in the supertrailer will be aired by the end of the year. Considering how long these seasons are, hopefully they have a jam packed second half of the season.

It's official, Don't Be Tardy is renewed: http://www.deadline.com/2012/11/bravo-greenlights-2-atlanta-reality-series/

By the time Nene was on Wendy Williams in the summer, she'd already been spotted filming with Kenya. I think she was just being coy. I remember at the time there were pictures with Kenya with all the women pretty much, but everybody kept denying it. I think they were just trying to keep it an open secret since Bravo usually doesn't like to announce stuff in advance. I'm sure it'll be the same once New Jersey starts filming the public events. We probably won't have a good idea of that cast until the Posche fashion show in December.

New Jersey was tired, but this might be worse. I can't imagine how they'll fill time without Kim. Porsha is just a waste of space and Kenya is too over the top. I don't feel like there is a good mix. Nene is playing nice with everyone, Cynthia is irrelevant, Phaedra is Phaedra and Kandi doesn't do much. I think this season will end a dud. Next season I fully expect Kim back and probably two new housewives.

I find it hilarious that we now find out Porsha was a Trillville video ho when she's been using her family's legacy to portray this Atlanta Socialite. I doubt she's involved in that charity or that she even went to college.

The spin-off is happening, period. It did too well for them not to renew it, considering how poorly so many of their other shows are doing. Her In Touch article where she announced her exit confirms it. Kim returns for second season: http://entertainment.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981772370 TMZ also confirmed it: http://www.tmz.com/2012/09/29/real-housewives-atlanta-kim-zolciak-spin-off-reality-show/

But that doesn't explain why Kim says she'll be back next season or that these same people will be producing her spin-off.

I'm sure it'll be natural because in the real world people of all races interact together, but on these shows I do think it's been intentional to keep them separated, so it'll be interesting to see how this plays out on screen. With Jersey they've always tried to stick the Italian's together, ATL is all black and they constantly make race an issue with the one white one, with DC the same thing happened with race constantly brought up only because one is black. I hope that Gia just slips right in and is allowed a story that doesn't depend on her being "different." Right now I've been re-watching NYC from the beginning and I'm remembering how much I missed. Originally I didn't see most of season 2 or 3, so a lot of this is new for me. I'm shocked at how crazy Kelly was from Day One and how quick Bethenny was to notice that. The look on her face is priceless in Kelly scenes. Kelly is truly insane. I don't know where they found this woman. I also didn't remember how harsh Jill was from the beginning. I know "mean girl," "bully" and "high school" are overused on these shows, but those words suit her. She is VERY high school. How many times did we hear "Is she my friend?" "What about my feelings?" "Don't interact with this person because I don't like her." And the list goes on. She is pretty hard to take. Even in season two you can see how she ultimately destroyed the show. This fued with Bethenny was *so* miscalculated on her and LuAnn's part. LuAnn is lucky it didn't backfire on her more. Also, the most embarassing part of the first two seasons is how horrible Alex and Simon were treated. I understand that they are a real like Herman and Lily Munster, but the others were CRUEL to them. Nothing was off limits: their kids, their home, the area they live in, how much money they have, their looks or even Simon's job (which IIRC, Jill had him fired from). In the beginning I didn't see Alex or Simon do or say anything negative, but they really weren't given a fair shot. Yes they were social climbers, but they're harmless and both seem hard working and like a loving family. I'm looking forward to see Alex growing a pair in season 3. I also believe that everybody being nicer to them was a calculated move. Jill needed a new ally, plus as time went on they became more popular. Most of all, the most interesting thing is what could've been. Had Jill and Bethenny not fallen out I truly believe she would've done another season. If not as a full housewife, making appearances. I also think that Jill, the poison of this series, ruined things for Alex. She got caught in the crossfire with the other insane ladies and shouldn't have been fired. Re-watching, I miss what she brought to the show even more.

I do find it interesting that there will be what looks like a black housewife. Is her husband black or white? It'll be interesting to see how they blend. My guess is that it will be completely natural. I hope it creates a trend.

For those happy and sad about Kim's exit from RHOA, she's posted on Twitter she only exited for this season due to her pregnancy. She'll be back next season full-time. My guess is that she'll exit in Dec 2nd episode, her spin-off will premiere while RHOA is still airing, she'll appear at the reunion and then back to status quo next year.

Examiner are fan written articles. I trust In Touch. I expect at least one HW not to return and we'll have at least two new housewives. I know they wanted Caroline back, but we don't know if she'll accept.

Yes. She's not clever enough to be with these ladies. I will say that I DO NOT think Nene will leave. The New Normal could be canceled at the end of the season and right now she's getting two big paychecks. She'd be stupid to leave RHOA right now. Especially now that the show is around 22 episodes. She's basically getting double and doing half the work since it's not that hard filming a reality series. I do think that she'll continue to take a more passive role in the drama, but she'll be around. This season would've been perfect if Marlo were still around. I know she was at the party where Nene was dressed like Grace Jones, so it'll be interesting to see if she's on screen.

I think it's obvious Porsha wanted to be friends with Kenya and at least use her to get a foot in the social scene. I don't feel it was about the event, so I don't feel she meant for Kenya to be a big draw. It was all about Porsha and what she wanted and added a friend to her circle.

I don't think Kenya came off bad at all this episode. She was fabulous. Porsha was VERY immature and an harassment to her charity. She was more concerned with her gifts and throwing a party for herself than raising money. Kenya had every right to be upset about the Miss America thing because her name was being used to promote this charity and Porsha should've done her research. It was completely unprofessional. She should've known the title and the year OR DON'T BRING IT UP. Porsha in general was a total idiot. And I wonder who came up with the idea to put "picture" in her tagline when she pronounces it as "pitcher." Just a Rich Hoodrat Valley Girl.

Kenya is a hot mess that I enjoy, but still not as interesting as Marlo or Sheree. Porsha seemed just as blah as I expected. She needs to take that marble mouth Minnie Mouse speak to Basketball Wives. She can't hang with these ladies.

The first season of NYC was exciting for what that show is. To me, it felt like a season long casting session or pilot. We truly got to see them meet, get to know each other and see how their real lives were before it got a reality show makeover for season two. It is so interesting seeing all the seeds get planted. Lots of juicy moments with all the women, especially in retrospect. Watching LuAnn knowing what I do now is so fascinating.