Everything posted by Aback
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ALL: Has Anyone Played With AI to Devise a Story For Your Favorite Soap(s)?
That’s really good and I’d watch it!
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BTG: December 2025 Discussion Thread
I’m glad you guys see the chemistry between Shanice and Ted because I certainly don’t. If chemistry means that you believe two people are into each other, I do see it in Shanice but I don’t see it in Ted. In fact, Ted comes across as cold and from another planet. I struggle to see him really interested in Nicole too. Keith isn’t working. As for MVJ’s post, honestly it kinda made me feel bad about the online community - and even myself to an extent. Here you have this older lady who had her dream come true after a lifetime of God knows how many sacrifices. She is using this dream to pay tribute to her past (Orpheus Gene’s, The Articulettes) and recognize current talent (Tunie, Vaughn, Lindstrom and all). And now she has all these strangers online giving her grief - me included! - as if she had robbed us of something when in reality she is the reason why we have this thing we are discussing, which is BTG. Food for thought for 2026!
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B&B: December 2025 Discussion Thread
Ahem sorry, is this one of those lavishing new sets everybody was gassed about? With the duct tape holding he two panels together lmao?
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B&B: "Soaps" Documentary Featuring The Bold & The Beautiful
This is such a disingenuous way to phrase it given we all know it's indeed being produced 😅
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BTG: December 2025 Discussion Thread
BTW here's more screenshots I wanted to comment: Not familiar with the winter weather in the DMV, but maybe they should get themselves some snowy backgrounds? Glad they got rid of that ugly, misplaced chair next to that staircase for this scene. Hope it won't make a comeback!
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BTG: December 2025 Discussion Thread
I agree on every point! Your picture reminded me: who are the two boys in the frame? 🤣 This family doesn't have two men around the same age.
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BTG: December 2025 Discussion Thread
BTW forgot to mention this earlier: ‘Chateau’ is indeed French for castle. But it is a masculine noun, therefore the adjective describing it would be ‘BEAU’, so ‘LE BEAU CHÂTEAU’. I can live with the dropping of the accent on ‘château’, though it is indeed part of its spelling. But the word ‘belle’ is just wrong. I mean you could ask any GPT these days and they wouldn’t get it wrong. Weird mistake.
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BTG: December 2025 Discussion Thread
That’s a really good theory. I don’t think it’s far away from the truth. BTW you made me realize that Alegria’s airtime has been drastically reduced. That’s a good sign.
- BTG: History, Behind the Scenes Articles & Photos
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BTG: Season 2 promo
Exactly. Kind of puts into perspective DAYS and GH's effort to add a little suspense to their promos at least. I was expecting to see at least a glimpse into Bill paying the consequences of Hayley's poisoning, but alas...
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BTG: December 2025 Discussion Thread
Big agree. The same can be said for a handful of never-seen-yet-often-mentioned characters. You just reminded me that Leslie and Ted were making small steps (the clinical trial, Thanksgiving at Orphey's together), before she shifted to Marcel. However I like Leslie and Marcel together a lot. As for Bill - yeah, the writers still haven't decided what THE FIXER's personality is. *White twinks lol Random comments: God, are the writers obsessed with Dani & Andre or what? I feel they're on non-stop. And all they do is have mind-blowing sex. I'm enjoying Anita's storyline but her heavy make-up during the biopsy took me out of the scene. I don't see the problem in ridding Anita of that drag queen makeup and horrendous wig. I don't think Anita hiding her exams from Vernon was a soap cliché. That's what most sensible family members do. Ted and Shanice are like watching paint dry. Actually Ted is a failed character. Speaking of failing couples, Chelsea and Madison are an afterthought. Can't wait for the next big secret & reveals concerning Andre and, why not, Kial! The whole thing with Vanessa crawling for Joey, on a show that's supposedly all about women power is hard to explain. Bill's involvement in politics (manouvred by Joey of course) came OUTTA NOWHERE. OF COURSE Hayley/Val has an alias! I swear all MVJ can do is write secrets, reveals and aliases. I'm enjoying Tracey Thomson's influence on the show, but yeah, it needs more movement and more stakes.
- BTG: Daytime veteran joins cast
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BTG: Season 2 promo
That promo is a nothing-burger.
- BTG: History, Behind the Scenes Articles & Photos
- BTG: History, Behind the Scenes Articles & Photos
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BTG: December 2025 Discussion Thread
OMG I agree! I can't put my finger on it but there's something morbid about it. Same thing for gambling. Big agree. Honestly it's been campy from the get-go. If one enjoys it, they should make peace with the fact it's pure camp. Kat's hat was giving Lindsey McKeon's Marah (GL) vibes when SATC's stylist Patricia Field joined the show. Madison is such an underdeveloped character - she can be a genius doctor and then a teenager - and the whole relationship with Chelsea is treated as an afterthought. This show has too many characters and too few (talented) writers. Extra comments: Greg Vaughn is a pro and a stud, however I don't see where the story is with him and Nicole. There's no stakes, no tension. Mark my words: they will tease a big secret with Kial in the next few months, that's all they can do story-wise. Speaking of love stories: how grand can these love stories be if the most exciting thing these couples can do is bounce between cafes and book a hotel room? If I see that hotel room one more time, I'll scream. They have a huge problem with sets. I have liked Vanessa so far but I don't understand what they want to do with her. While WF was a bust, I'm enjoying the new writing and I'm loving the direction lately. They're experimenting a lot - and succeeding. Loving Leslie & Marcel. I literally have no idea what's next for Ashley and Derek. Not that I'm worried at all, but they've been written into a corner. They were isolated before, they're even more isolated now. I don't see any chemistry between Shanice & Ted. In fact, I don't see any chemistry between Keith's Ted and ANYONE.
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BTG: December 2025 Discussion Thread
The fact she was implying it was a good thing - to be inspired by Sonny - kind of let me speechless. I agree. Yet there's so much room for improvement in the romance department. Eva and Izaiah don't have a tiny bit of chemistry and their story has no stakes. Why haven't they had sex yet? Do these writers think young people aren't horny? And then you have Nicole and this blind date... I don't read the spoilers but for now I don't see any anticipation or stakes. Same with Ted and Shanice - where are the stakes? (apart from Leslie going ballistic, but that would happen with any woman) BTW they have no idea what to do with Ted and Keith is an epic fail. He has no charisma, no presence, he comes across as cold and unrelatable. Been saying that from day 1 of that set. They have the extras do all kinds of weird actions when they're in that ugly area. No idea why. I disagree. The flashback was a nice touch. For once they weren't just TELLING, they were also SHOWING. As for the casting, remember Dani was a 'model'. Young Dani could pass off as a model in the soap world and she wasn't too light-skinned IMHO. Young Bill, on the other hand, was darker - and I don't buy him in a hoodie. She is indeed stuck in all kinds of 90s tropes (<cough>the elevator</cough>) Been saying that for months now - they have off-screen characters being catalysts for stories and we never see them, yet we deal with the consequences of said characters' actions. It's very Josh Griffithy, but hey- I was told this was also Irna Phillips' style from the golden era, 100 years ago, so we should really be thankful. That's a very good point - but at the same time, why would the writers embark on such a story if it takes them into such a conundrum? And to think they have everything planned in advance... @Errol @Toups I like the new look but replying from one's phone is a NIGHTMARE.
- BTG: 'Hot' hire spotted on set?
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BTG: November 2025 Discussion Thread
IWTYO when I realized this show has Eva Thomas dating a Tomàs, as well as a Dana and a Dani. 🙁 I'm all for planting seeds and I'm sure these characters will pop up eventually, but one thing is name-dropping and planting seeds, another thing is building whole-ass personalities, actions or reactions around characters we have never seen and probably won't see for a while. Not to mention that when they had the chance to plant seeds with Izaiaha (remember Elon's conversation with Anita?) they didn't lmao. They chose to 'plant seeds' with the other brother, Luke. For a show claiming it has everything planned till the last detail, it comes across as weird at the very least.
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ALL: Soap actors that also worked BTS on their shows
Ellen Weston played Robin Lang Bauer Bowden Fletcher #5 (1963-1964) on GL before her infamous headwriting stint on the show in 2003 under Jon Conboy lmao
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ALL: Soap Watching Then vs. Now - What’s Changed for You?
The biggest change for me is that in the past I trusted they had a plan and a story to tell. These days, no more. I'm jaded, alway expecting the worst. However BTG and GH have rekindled my love for the genre. Of course I always watch on demand.
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BTG: November 2025 Discussion Thread
This is so, so cool. Thanks! I really can't remember Tomas' apartment though.
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BTG: November 2025 Discussion Thread
Yeah, add Ma' Hawthorne and Luke to Yolanda, Dante, Alan, Deanna, Madison's mother and 10 other off-screen characters I'm forgetting and we could make a whole new show. That's not how you tell a story. Good for you. It's still pointless and not recommended, so Andre and Dani were right saying you shouldn't.
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BTG: November 2025 Discussion Thread
27 sets (if the number is real) would probably be okay if only there was a communal, work-related space. I'm not saying this show needs a corporation - in fact I hate it when writers improvise corp. stories without any research, plus a corporation wouldn't fit the fabric of the show - but part of the problem is that all we see these characters do is hang out at cafeterias or restaurants. It makes them feel aimless. And then you have random sets built for a couple of appearances, like Andre's apartment 🤔 I too paused and read the directory, only to feel more confused. And have you noticed how they have the extras on that set do the weirdest things? I swear I saw a couple of them fighting and another one arguing and gesturing while on the phone lol While 'driving story' is certainly a provocative hyperbole on my part, there's no denying the writers have off-screen characters' moods, actions and choices heavily influence the on-screen characters and story. To me that gives fan-fiction, amateurish, Josh Griffith vibes.
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BTG: November 2025 Discussion Thread
IA. Plus we had an almost identical scene later when Ted saw Leslie with Marcel. This show is obsessed with fathers having a say in their daughters' innocuous love life. IA. Not only is Izaiah written as a beta male, the actor himself comes across as a bobble-headed softie. And I'm tired of hearing of how much of a rascal he was - yet he's so docile on screen. It's fugly. And I still have no clue where it's supposed to be located. Next week Randy and Hayley are meeting there. Weird. I hate to burst your bubble but you actually don't need to pre-wash. Dishwashers and product are designed to hang on the dirt until they scrub it all away. By pre-washing the dishes, you're preventing the dishwasher from doing its job - hence it breaks down and gets damaged/ineffective over time. That's why you find "the stuff stuck on them just stays and hardens". It's a catch-22 sitch. I know because my brother repairs dishwashers for a living. Yeah in the middle of food prep. Ugh. I'm all for product placement, but does it have to be this silly? You find a thousand better examples on TikTok. I'm sure the Dupree's will have their large family gathering for Christmas. We don't need to see it for Thanksgiving too. And yes, these speeches by the patriarch are... patriarchal. I was wondering the same thing. Also, I remember that soap actors are paid per week (ie: 3 appearances per week granted). How do you measure that when the broadcast is so scattered? I also wanted to say: this show's Josh Griffithy obsession with having off-screen characters drive story continues. I feel I know more about Luke and ma' Hawthorne than I know about characters I've seen since February. From a storytelling point of view I find it very, very amateurish.