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Immediately, that line from "Send In the Clowns" played in my head. "Isn't it rich... isn't it queer, losing my timing this late in my career"

2 hours ago, OzFrog said:

I’m sure I’m not alone in this, but 1983 Y&R was gothic AF.

Not nearly as much as it was earlier. You don't get much more gothic than this at 4:30.

13 minutes ago, SoapDope said:

I for one loved the 1973 episodes. A few people on other message boards and facebook were pissing and moaning about wanting the current show back on instead of sitting through reruns and characters they don't know or care about. I wish there was a streaming channel to watch Y&R from the beginning. 

With modern technology, there is no reason at ALL they can't stream some of these episodes. 

4 hours ago, DaytimeFan said:

 

Indeed - Jeanne definitely fits that description. It's her bone structure and complexion. The lucky thing for all of those who looked older, even when young, is that they also don't hit the same wall, or at least as hard, as those who age rapidly after a certain age.

I put a lot of that to smoking. It's so bad for the skin. Jeanne also spent a lot of time in the sun. 

So.... I distinctly remembered Bill Bell talking in print interviews about the Y&R archive, and it all being intact... but can't remember the publication or the year, anyone have something like that in their memory banks? 

20 hours ago, All My Shadows said:

Were the Fosters supposed to be always “poor” or did they only become “poor” after Bill abandoned them? Because that house is big as hell for a “poor” family.

 

The Brooks family scenes were fantastic and everything I needed them to be. Classic soap opera is regular people living ordinary lives. A family getting home and having dinner is so mundane, but there’s beauty in that, and it grows and grows and grows over time.

Working class, and then poor after Bill left them. Many people live in old, large homes that are areas of town that were once expensive, but have since become blighted. 

3 hours ago, All My Shadows said:

I mean, If Sony had any imagination, they would’ve asked Brenda to record the intro for tomorrow’s presentation. “Just go on for as long as you want to, darling, we’ll edit together the highlights.”

That would be a riot!!!

44 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

Why was Espy replaced? He did return to YR in 2003.

He left of his own volition

On 7/12/2019 at 12:06 AM, vetsoapfan said:

 

He had kept his orientation quiet, himself, and had steadfastly refused to talk about his personal life with the press. Dano took it upon herself to out him in an interview, laughing about how he was not thrilled with their kissing scenes and how shaking hands instead would be more his preference.

 

 

No. Espy was a HUGE megastar and a prime reason why the show became a hit. He soared right to the top of all the readers' polls in the soap press. There was a tremendous backlash when he was replaced. Hasselhoff never attained the same popularity. You should have read some of the letters to the editors in the soap mags of the day. It was similar to Rosemary Prinz being replaced by Phoebe Dorin on ATWT. Fans were livid.

 

Espy never returned because he refused to do so. He only accepted the role of AW for a few years because he wanted to be in NY. He did not like the grind of daytime TV and made that VERY clear.

This is odd. Espy and Janice Lynde were a couple in the 73-75 time period, and quite involved. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/aunt-jemima-brand-will-change-name-remove-image-quaker-says-n1231260

13 hours ago, Juliajms said:

It's ridiculous! I would continue wearing a mask just to reduce the risks of regular cold and flu season. It's foolish that we didn't adopt this practice sooner.

I agree. I haven't been personally wearing one because I don't need to... but people who need to certainly should! Every time! 

I never understood why it wouldn't be safer to disable a suspect with tranquilizer dart guns. I mean, if Marlon Perkins can take a wildabeast down with one, surely a perp can be disabled without permanent injury. 

3 hours ago, dragonflies said:

You should be slapped for this comment

Disgusting and despicable

It's just my personal choice. I never said anything about someone being harassed who didn't want it. 

9 hours ago, Roman said:

saw this morning....Chauvin will be receiving his retirement money even though he has been changed with murder, and even if he is convicted....he still gets that money.

Taking away pensions for convicted prisoners is actually a conservative philosophy... there are many who believe it should happen, many who believe that if you commit a crime, it doesn't not cancel your entire life. Jesse Helms had legislation at one time to take away Social Security from all gay people, while requiring them to still pay into it. There is a lot of difference in punishment across the world, in Germany, even a murder conviction gets parole in 15 years, unless they are deemed too dangerous to be released. 

I'm utterly shocked that nobody has mentioned in this thread how Floyd went to prison for robbing a pregnant woman, and pointing a gun at her stomach. Granted, what the officers did was hella wrong, but George Floyd isn't the best martyr to hang your hat on. In most other cases, I'd see people saying this was his "Karma" or something similar. 

4 hours ago, Khan said:

 

 

 

Exactly.  There ARE no "good cops."  The only ones who might qualify for that distinction are the ones who speak up and out (and throw their lives and livelihoods in the balance) the minute they see any kind of injustice; and who refuse to back down from their convictions, no matter how pressure their colleagues (and in many cases, their loved ones and communities) apply on them.  

That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. 

16 hours ago, GLATWT88 said:

Yes, I do think DD wears a piece, but it looks fine. I don't think he could pull off a bald look all that well. 

 

Speaking of DD, I just saw that Cris LeBlanc and Greg R from Y&R are out. I mean I always had a suspicion but I didn't know it was confirmed nor did I really go out of my way to find out or search but when on the Y&R page on insta I ended up on their pages and realized they're out. Is Doug D in the same boat or am I reading him all wrong? 

Not reading entirely wrong

9 hours ago, Faulkner said:

All true. I think, even beyond race, Mulcahey speaks to ideas of what networks feel like daytime’s “conservative” viewers will accept, which has stifled the growth of the medium. They’ve dumbed down soaps with the stereotype of some white, older, poorly educated, bible-thumping viewer in mind. And some point, a lot of holdout viewers who didn’t fit that mold just said, y’all can have this sh!t because it’s not doing it for me anymore.

 

I know we all love soaps, but even at their best, they failed us consistently in terms of showcasing America in all of its exciting variety. The soaps stayed stuck or even regressed to cater to a dwindling, dying audience; hundreds of other options are available to people who want more; and perhaps it was all inevitable given how the world has changed so dramatically. But it’s just sad that we never saw the Harding Lemays of daytime portray the world as we know it to be, with the same depth of character they were known for.

Y&R did do a stunningly accurate depiction of rural farm people with Hope, Betty, and Cliff. I was utterly shocked how good it was written, and wondered where the hell these California writers and producers got that insight. 

16 hours ago, Wendy said:

California had an earthquake this evening, too. At this point, I'm just waiting for the damned locusts.

Ask and ye shall receive. 

33 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

To the surprise of no one, the NYT is now openly advocating a military takeover of our country.

 

 

Now that the other 3 have been charged, and with the upgrade to second degree murder... I think things will calm down now, Those charges are all proper considering the evidence we have. 

1 hour ago, Khan said:

Obviously, I speak only for myself, but I won't accept anything less than first-degree murder.

Then there would never be a conviction. Second degree murder is proper in this case. You might educate yourself on murder charges.

Protests were much more peaceful in Kansas City last night. Perhaps they arrested the 200 or so hoodlums the previous 2 nights and left the decent people remaining to protest. 

2 hours ago, janea4old said:

 

Y&R rebroadcast Traci and Brad's second wedding on Monday June 1st.
A classic episode from 1991.

Beth Maitland (Traci) was supposed to live-tweet on Monday June 1st 

But she didn't because CBS told her not to as follows:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Well that was good but then ....

she tweeted this, which totally misses the real issue:

 

 

Figures some jackwagon would say that to her, because she didn't use the PERFECT verbage in her tweet. Someone should put out a Goddamn handbook teaching everyone how to behave in a perfectly politically correct stepford wife way. 

2 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

These networks would do well to hire more black creatives instead of using black talent to build their networks' "street cred" before promptly dumping them once the show or timeslot gains momentum. Perhaps then I'd believe that they were doing more than just performative posting.

 

Seriously, when's the last time you saw a one hour drama featuring a black family?

Empire?