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Here's some more lovely clips of Lori and Leslie... Lori and Vanessa, with Vanessa groveling for forgiveness, and Lori trying to let Victor down easy when she feels a reconciliation with Lance is iminent.

yes, that is one thing you can't help, when you get complete disintegration. But definitely back it up sooner than later, as it will only get worse with time. One thing you need to do, is keep your finger poised on the stop button, and when something starts to go bad wrong, stop it immediately. Luckily, with Y&R, at least wer'e not talking about something REALLY precious, meaning footage that no longer exists in a broadcast archive... as Y&R's entire run is intact. I did the original DVD transfer of "Welcome to my home" that went onto youtube, and luckily, that tape was only from 1987, and was still in pretty good shape.

Tonight, some GREAT scenes of Lorie and Leslie during the custody battle for Brooks. The emotional tug of war in these scenes, all the while trying to keep Brooks from noticing what's going on is just heartbreaking. Especially the end of the scene. JLB and Victoria Mallory really hit it out of the park here!

Wow... great to hear you have some additional 70's footage. I think your tape should play, you should really transfer it to DVD, I'm an expert in the video transfer department, if you need any advice or help, let me know. ALWAYS remember, if a VCR "Eats" and important tape, never throw it away! Tapes can be taken apart, and spools changed to a different cartridge, broken tape can be spliced... there is almost always a way to preserve things. Keep in mind, they recently found episode of Dr. Who in Nigeria on 40 year old tapes, so most things can be recovered, even if they are in bad shape.

Now we have scenes from the glorious music critic's ball in London! Lorie and her grand entrance with the gown slit up to her armpits.

I never thought of Janet as any kind of singer... like Paula Abdul, her true gift lies in dancing and choreography. I always thought she carried herself with class (even after the super bowl thing) and I also thought she showed great restraint when coming under fire during the whole Paris/Michael's will fiasco. So many hated on her for slapping that little brat Paris (which to me,, looked like her trying to snatch her phone)... but damn, if a grown person can't discipline their teenage neice in the absence of a parent, then what is the world coming to! You know that entitled little brat was givin Janet 50 kinds of sass that day, and there is no doubt in my mind she deserved it. And then with the whole thing about Michael's will, people calling her a golddigger, and accusing her of stooping to Jermaine's level, when all the while she was married to a freaking billionaire! She will always hold a place in the heart of those of us who grew up in the 70's, as the whole Penny story on Good Times was one of the most powerful things in TV history. And might I say, she has one of the prettiest smiles, EVER.

OK... more goodies! This is another scene of Lorie and Lance discussing Lorie's arrest, little Brooks calls his "Mommy" from his "Aunt's" house... and the moustache comes in like the ass he is and tries to interject himself into Lorie's case. That phone call scene is just touching and heartbreaking at the same time. You can see Lorie's desperate need for her son, but the undercurrent of Leslie secretly hoping that maybe she could step up and be his real mother. That boy is a pretty good actor, too! Better than many of the other adults on the show today.

That's not Bond Gideon... it's Ellen Weston (Suzanne).

This scene is with Lorie, Lance, and with her attorney, discussing the probablity of a grand jury indicting her for Vanessa's death.

I thought that Conboy was still there at this time. I could be wrong, but I thought this episode played out right around halloween 1981.

You have to remember that weeks before this, Vanessa found out she was terminally ill, the doctor told her she had about 3 months to live at best, if I remember right. She had returned to the doctor to find he had suffered a stroke, and would not be seeing patients anymore, so the nurse gave her her records and referrals for another doctor. So Vanessa destroyed the records and set her plan in motion. Dare I say it, but Vanessa scared me more than Sheila.The closeup on K.T.'s face when she says "Tomorrow" just freaks me out.

Here it is: The Vanessa suicide scenes. The scenes from that day's episode, 20 minutes in total. One of many times Bill Bell stepped out of daytime and straight into horror. K.T. Stevens is UTTERLY AMAZING in this, she makes your blood run cold.

Now, Lorie asks Leslie why she didn't have an abortion:

Here it is! The big reveal of Lorie finding out that Lance is the father of Leslie's baby:

Lorie, and a surgically enhance Vanessa trade barbs, and then Lorie and Lance have some more quiet time, which foreshadows a huge bomb about to drop.

Here is Lorie and Lance's vacation in Greece, as well as a heart to heart by the fire after their return.

I never remember seeing this set again.. maybe it was a location shoot? And this was still 1977, The fade ins still happened all the time, they just changed things up sometimes.

Tonight, Lorie takes Lucas to the DISCO! (And Vanessa's final line from the previous clip is included here)

In this one, crazy ass Vanessa tries to shoot Lorie, and Misses and hits Lance instead. The audio cuts out in the last 5 seconds, Vanessa's final line is "It's the last thing I'll ever ask of you".

Lorie and Vanessa at each other's throats. You can see Vanessa now in all her veiled, nasty glory (At the very end, you get a quick glimpse of her spying on them in her two way mirror. )

TPTB today are under the false impression that viewers aren't patient enough to sit through long scenes like this (And these are VERY long scenes) and it's these scenes that give all that in depth character development. Also, virtually all shows today are run by committee, and it completely destroys the focus. Only two people wrote all that dialogue in these clips, and that was Bill and Kay. Jaime Lyn Bauer is very unique, in that she walks the line between realistic actress and campy scenery chewer, but she never really crosses over it. She just somehow makes it real, and makes you BELIEVE that Lorie is a drama queen, as opposed to an ACTRESS being a drama queen.

She does in parts, in other parts, not. The veil made her WAY creepier, IMO. Yes, there is the complete suicide scenes, but none of the other stuff your'e referring to. A fair amount of scenes with Dennis Cole as Lance, and WOW was he gorgeous!

She is! She was so cold and unemotional, she even spoke to her sons like a salesperson greeting a customer in a department store. Lance gets home from a long trip, and the first word out of her mouth is "Welcome". Who the hell tells their son "welcome".

Continuation of the previous clip, Stuart comes to Lorie's apartment and opens up the whole can of worms.

Yes, that's why the music score was considered by so many to be a character unto itself. And that's why what Jill Phelps has done has destroyed the show more than any writing issue could. And yes, that was definitely Dorothy Green shot from the back, it was just a directing choice.