Michael

I like the one with Billy and the Hayeses.  

And the Tony Moore one isn't a show-produced promo -- it's a Dishin' Days interview they did during a press event that the show held. 

I know exactly what you mean. It's probably easier to get camera coverage of the person in the bed, since they're angled toward the cameras instead of in profile, but you wind up with people awkwardly smushed up against those cabinets or by the foot of the bed. It doesn't even make sense from a practical standpoint -- those beds would need to be close to as many outlets and power sources as possible, rather than having wires running over half the room.

10 hours ago, DynamiteKiddo said:

They actually changed it in 2018 from the sage green (which could read as lime green or yellowish depending on how bad the lighting was!) to a very muted blue-gray.  So in theory, I think this is sacrilegious, but I think the light refresh, which also included swapping the white wall-to-wall carpet for “hardwood” and some new art, is a huge improvement.  Believe it or not, this set has come a long way since its reintroduction in 2010.  Like Michael said, this set returned different… and bad.  Before, I thought it was a really rich set, but in 2010 it looked like straight cardboard, it became SO angular for the forced perspective, and the new “art” was a joke.  When the lighting got really dark in late 2015/16, it helped a lot… and with the 2018 refresh, I like it, except for all the Home Goods decor.  But I started watching in 2000, and I never remember the foyer being necessarily different.  I also love that Jennifer lives there.

I knew the paint had changed at some point. I actually hadn't noticed the flooring until that close-up on Monday's episode. The 'hardwood' (laminate) is probably a lot easier to keep clean, but it looked beat-up that day!

The thing about the hospital rooms that drives me nuts -- ever since the 2019 time jump -- is how the beds are usually at a weird, 45-degree angle in the room, with the head not against the wall. I'm sure it makes shooting and staging easier, but no bed would be set up like that in an actual room.

This trailer looks incredible.

That entrance changed back in 2010-11 when they brought back the Horton house, I think. We didn't see the house for a bit (maybe all of 2009?) and then they revived it for Alice's funeral and had Jen move into it the following fall, and it was a modified set.

I finally saw something on my NBC affiliate this morning explaining the move and directing viewers to both the Peacock site and a telephone 'help line' if they needed clarity or assistance signing up. So that's something.

Like @Errol said, it does appear that Sept 1 is the start of some kind of push, which is way too late, but at least it's happening. 

And @Vee, I'm with you -- Days is a sacrificial lamb here. I truly don't think they want to cancel it, but NBCU is throwing sh*t at the wall to make Peacock work, and Days is going to wind up collateral damage.

Something was f***ed up with the Peacock version of the show on Friday. There were two acts that repeated for me, and the episode was like 46 minutes instead of the usual 34 or however long it is. They'd better get their s**t together.

21 minutes ago, janea4old said:

The Sept 19 date is the date that most of the NBC primetime shows go to *only Peacock* after airing
(instead of the prior pattern of going to Hulu *and* Peacock after airing).
For example: the Wed eve "Chicago" Med/Fire/PD shows, the Thurs eve Law&Order franchise shows, and Saturday Night Live.

Gotcha. So it has nothing to do with the rate -- the $1.99 kicks in September 1, and people will be able to pick up with Days when it moves over to Peacock. Thanks!

Where is the September 19th date coming from? Everything I've read says that the rate applies if you sign up during the month of September, too.

11 minutes ago, edgeofnik said:

@MichaelRight with you - Li seems like the obvious choice for Abby's *murder* - he's the bad guy with the Stefan story. Li isn't any character's endgame. I'm sure he'll vanish as soon as it's revealed since he has 'resources.'

Anyway, if it ends up being someone else, they'll be free as soon as Abby returns.

Yeah, it just felt suspicious that they elevated him to more of a 'real' character just as this all kicked off. Gwen is too damn obvious. But yeah, this is ultimately going to end in Abigail being alive, whether that's in 8 months or three years.

I actually think the construction of this murder mystery story isn't bad. If these were characters we gave a crap about (or found entertaining), and/or if death meant anything on this show, I'd actually think it were pretty decently put together. They set up a lot of red herrings and have generally explained them in logical (for Days) ways. I'm waiting for the completely random resolution -- my money is on Li, and maybe Abigail figured out he was holding Stefan and killed her? -- but I don't think it's been a badly plotted story in terms of broad strokes.

2 hours ago, Dylan said:

I've been trying to get that libs of tiktok women to go after his account lol

Why? That feels incredibly hateful and dangerous.

Please let this woman book a great primetime or streaming role.

Sort of wish DAYS had just pulled her as a new Lani, honestly. 

2 minutes ago, Cat said:

This is my feeling also. And your last sentence illustrates why streaming on a paid Peacock platform may not work out for Days in the long-run.

I feel sadness about this, and it's interesting how much of that sadness is echoed in the 22 pages (and counting) of this thread. Last year, when the first Beyond Salem mini-series was announced, people were thrilled that Days was getting this extra mileage on Peacock, and some believed that Days eventually belonged on the streaming service permanently. Today, that sentiment appears to have changed. Maybe it's the shock of experiencing the news like this. We perhaps anticipated that it was 'sometime in the future.'

Or maybe it's the paying aspect of Peacock. If Days were offered free on Peacock, would we be this disheartened? Or would we believe that Days had a fighting chance? Someone mentioned on the Beyond Salem thread last year that Days' demos on Peacock catch-up must be pretty good (i.e.: a lot of young female demos might be logging on to watch).

Anyhoo, just asking the question -- I don't really know the answer, and it would be great if Days had a second life in streaming.

I think it's a combination of the suddenness and the fact that it'll be on the paid tier. If it were moving onto the free tier, I suspect the uproar or pessimism would be a lot less.  

I agree that the lack of lead time and the fact that we won't get a big NBC finale "event" is a huge missed opportunity. 

Frankly, though, I just don't think they're that concerned about losing the passive viewers who are out of the target demo. Which is obviously sad for the longtime viewers who won't continue on with the show, but in terms of business, I get the tradeoff. The streamers want active eyeballs who are appealing to advertisers, and it seems like the Peacock specials have brought those in.

I'll be genuinely -- and pleasantly -- shocked if we get anything resembling a full archive of classic episodes available on Peacock. Even highlights from each year would be something, but I'm dubious, especially on such short notice.

The person who posted this is full of sh*t and has been wrong about almost every storyline spoiler they've posted in months.

They should absolutely work on adding the full back library. That would be a legitimate draw.

I know most people who come to boards like this will always treasure the idea of a five-day-a-week, 52-week-a-year soap opera, but I do think it's increasingly an obsolete form. That is not how people view things these days, and it's not helpful in winning a new or refreshed audience. I would be interested in them trying three days a week, or even better, as @Vee mentioned, 6-to-8-week arcs several times a year. There's an energy that comes from finales and premieres, especially these days, that I think daytime in general is lacking.

37 minutes ago, j swift said:

For me, what's missing is the Slesar way of inter cutting stories.  A story ends, characters flounder, and then something else happens to them.  I yearn for stories that have consequences, but when even death is not forever in Salem, there's no sense of people who have grown and changed based on experience.

That's a good way of putting it. Stuff happens, but it doesn't necessarily change anything. 

I think they do a decent job retroactively tying threads together, but it doesn't feel like long-term story -- it feels like, "Well, this happened, and this also happened, and I guess we can make them dovetail in a way that brings stuff together," but it would be so much more satisfying and gripping if it felt like it was intended that way all along.

IMO Jake was a much better fit for BB than Stefan. He worked decently enough as Stefan, but it was an emergency recast and he didn't really feel like the (terrible) character Tyler Christopher had established at all. If they hadn't made TC's Stefan a rapist, I probably could've gone along with it -- but they had already written to the point of killing Stefan off by the time BB started airing, so then they scrambled to create Jake to give him a character with a clean slate. It all went off the rails when they rushed him into DiMeraLand instead of allowing him to be the rough outsider. Do they really think bringing him back as a rapist is going to be the hit they're swinging for?

They get a completely separate licensing fee from Peacock for Beyond Salem. If they aren't doing a separate miniseries, there's no money to redirect to the main show. 

I wish we could 'like' posts here, but thank you for the tags, @victoria foxton! This is awesome and I can't wait to dig in.

I liked Jaime Lyn Bauer as Laura, but obviously it was a huge retooling of the character. They de-aged her by a decade, and her mental illness became her primary characteristic -- it would've been nice if they'd had a long-term goal of building her back into who the prior Laura(s) had been, but they basically just let her be "Jennifer and Mike's mom who spent many years in a sanitarium."

5 hours ago, Forever8 said:

I would make her Susan Martin's daughter Annie. I'm sure if it possible they could get Denise Alexander for a few episodes to have Anne's mother visit and get reacquainted with her former Frenemy Julie Williams. It would also explain her hatred towards the Hortons. Heck you could even develop a relationship with Lucas until Ron and Co. decide to put him back with Sami or someone else. 

I always thought that would've been a great reason to explain her animosity toward the Hortons. 

2 hours ago, Bright Eyes said:

Mike Horton should have been the most important character in the history of the show. Amongst many, I'd show it's the show's biggest failure that he isn't.

Such a good point. Mike has had some important/interesting stuff over the years, but he's always wound up a solid B-player. David got the bigger stories in the 70s and early 80s, Weiss's late-80s version was never THE guy in a major supercouple story when that was what ruled the era, and Critchlow was the definition of a supporting player until his last year or two when he had the Carrie pairing. And he's only made one brief appearance this century! This is a character they should have recast and prioritized in the early or mid-2000s, especially since Carrie returned broken up from him anyway.

He'd be a little old for what the show needs now, and I shudder at the thought that they'd wind up pairing him with Kate, but he'd be a nice presence to have around. Have him take over the COS position from Kayla, usher in a new Jeremy and maybe a teenage kid we've never heard of... hell, you could try him with Nancy, once a rival of his, in a little supporting story.

MSL has seemed a little thirsty to return, but so did Miranda Wilson, and look how that worked out! I'd happily take Anne back either as a fun background character or if they actually deepened her backstory, like they had started to do with her crush on Lucas at the end of her run. I also fear what Ron would do with her -- it's such a runaway train once he gets his hands on someone he considers "funny."