Paul Raven

Some info on LOL performers

Andy Marriot was played by Christian Marlowe,son of Hugh Marlowe (Jim Matthews AW) and KT Stevens (Vanessa Prentiss Y&R)

Lynn was played by Amy Gibson who turned up on Y&R in the 80's as Alana Anthony

Sherry Rooney played Dory Patten, She met and married John Aniston (Eddie) on the show.

Joe Cusack was played by Peter Brouwer, who became Brad Hollister on ATWT in 1980

Cherie Manning was played by Elizabeth Stack,daughter of Robert Stack

Her mother Faith was played by Gretchen Walther who was one of the many Patti's on SFT

Carl,thanks for the thanks! I love discussing the classic soaps and learning stuff from other posters.

Carrie Lovett,Arlene's mother was played by Peg Murray,who subbed for Constance Ford on AW for several months when Ms Ford had pneumonia. I think Carrie was just a 'talk to'.

Arlene had the baby-a girl she named April Joy.

I would guess some of the characters written out were Rick,Cal,Eddie,Felicia, Charles and Lynn(although some may have been dropped earlier)

This is from around Dec 77

Arlene insists on taking the witness stand! She confesses that she did indeed have a gun with her when she lured Ian to the penthouse, and that she fully intended to shoot him! But as the jury recoils in horror, Arlene continues to unfold her story, and it is not the lurid, sordid picture which prosecutor Earl Merrick painted. Instead, it's a story of a love-starved and basically moral woman who was trying to force herself to kill Ian -- the man who had tried to hire Ray to kill her mother! And being brought up as she was with a strict sense of moral standards, Arlene could not go through with her plan. Instead, she drops the gun as she is overcome with hysterical crying, and crumples to the floor!

When Dory later gives her summation; she reminds the jury that Arlene is on trial for murder -- not for having an affair with a married man. She also reminds the jury that the coroner's report showed merely that Ian died from injuries sustained from a fall down an elevator shaft. The idea that Arlene pushed Ian is purely conjecture on the part of the prosecutor. Indeed, with a penthouse in the midst of construction, it's entirely possible Ian tripped -- that his death was an accident!

But what is Arlene to do, even if she is proven innocent? Her doctor has confirmed that she is indeed almost five months pregnant, and, though she asks for one, he refuses to give Arlene an abortion! He says it would kill her! Arlene is hysterical. She is certain Tom will never marry her if he knows she is carrying Ian's child.

Ben seems to be spending a great deal of his time (much to Mia's aggravation!) thinking of Betsy! Ben again asks Mia if she is certain that nothing happened that morning Betsy walked in on Mia and Ben -- Ben with his arms around Mia, and Mia wearing Ben's shirt! It seems Betsy (understandably!) couldn't believe that Ben was merely comforting Mia -- his platonic friend!

Rick, meantime, is getting quite fed up with Cal constantly calling up and cancelling plans at the last minute because she and Michael must stay late at school!

When Van and Charles discuss the sad but real possibility that Arlene may go to prison, Mary, baby Eddie's nurse, makes a disturbing statement! She says that if fate has it in store for you to go to prison, you go! It doesn't matter if you're young or pretty -- or even innocent! What does Mary's past hold?

And now that the case is over, Dory breaks down and cries. She really believes, now, that Arlene is innocent, and is afraid she didn't do enough for her. Edouard, however, is there to comfort Dory...

With the trial for the murder of Ian Russell finally over, the jury retires to deliberate. Will Arlene be found guilty -- or will she be acquitted? Dory gave a very honest, deliberate, persuasive summation -- but will that be enough to pull Arlene safely through?

Meg, meantime, certainly has her sticky fingers in everyone's business! First, she has lunch with Ben and Cal at Beaver Ridge, and cannot resist making snide remarks to Cal as to the whereabouts of hubby Rick! Indeed, she quite pointedly questions Cal as to why Rick hasn't shown up to have lunch with them!

And what kind of games are these few young people of Rosehill playing with each other? First, Mia invites ex-hubby, Andrew to Christmas dinner at her place! What does Mia want? First it's Andrew she wants, then Ben, then back to Andrew, and now Ben! Indeed, Mia is decidedly upset when she learns from Andrew about the Christmas party at the Sterlings! And at another session with Ben, Mia, through her constant prodding, finally, gets Ben to admit that the character in his book, Annabelle, was, in part, fashioned after Mia! What is this character Annabelle like?

Michael, meantime, studying with Cal under the Christmas tree, is again beset by memories of holidays past! This time, his memories are again of himself as a young boy -- and again he seems to be watching a woman who seems to be a prostitute -- but this time, it seems the woman is his mother!

Meg, meantime, continues to dampen everyone's holiday spirit! First, she warns Ben against Mia, and then, her behavior and constant snide innuendos anger Cal so much, till she finally blows up and says her mother should get a man of her own!

Finally, the jury has reached a decision! But what a decision! They have found Arlene guilty of the murder of Ian Russell! Everyone is in shock! Finally, collecting her wits, Carrie sends Ray to get Tom, who has been tied up at the hospital with surgery. Poor Tom! No words can describe his complete look of hope and utter despair... Oh, his beloved Arlene! How could he let this happen to her? He rushes to her side, and they embrace... Later, Tom visits Arlene in jail. He gives her a Christmas present, and, as he holds her close to him, sings soft songs of love to her...

With the jury's verdict now in, the judge then sentences Arlene -- to 25 years in prison! Of course, Dory immediately readies for an appeal, but what kind of chance will Arlene have for a future acquittal? And, meantime, she must begin fulfilling her sentence! Poor Arlene! And what will she do about the baby? The doctor has told her that there is no way the baby can be aborted, as she is now going into her sixth month! But Arlene is not ready for a baby emotionally -- especially Ian's baby! Oh, what will she do? Finally, needing someone to talk to, Arlene tells Carrie that she is pregnant, but warns her not to tell Tom...

Mia, meantime, tells Wendy that she is very happy with her relationship with Ben! But how can that be when he continually rebuffs her? Indeed, how can she be happy with her relationship with Ben when she is still pursuing Andrew? Ben obviously wants to untangle himself from the clinging vine that is Mia, despite her pretension of being the purely business-like editor! When Mia tried to give him a puppy for Christmas, he gave it right back to her! Finally, when little Susie gives Ben a bag of jellybeans for Christmas, and expects a present in return, the two give the little girl the puppy! Still, Mia is very happy with her Christmas present from Ben -- a music box which plays "Somewhere, My Love"...

Meanwhile, over at the Sterlings, Andrew tells Bruce and Van that Meg roped him into coming to their New Year's Eve party. Bruce understands Andrew's not wanting to start any kind of a social relationship at all with Meg; but Van tends to play the role of matchmaker, trying to reassure Andrew that he would enjoy Meg's company... (Meg had first asked Ben to escort her, but he declined saying memories of last New Year's Eve with Betsy were too painful for him to do any partying...)

Later that night, at home, Andrew can't seem to get Mia out of his mind. He remembers the other evening when Mia pleaded with him not to divorce her, and then, sorrowfully trying to accept the reality of it, she then pleaded with him to just put his arms around her and comfort her and stay the night with her... Thinking about all of this, Andrew calls Mia. Once she answers, however, he realizes he really has nothing to say, so he finally just says that Meg roped him into going to the party, though he doesn't want to. Finally, at a loss for words (though emotions seemed to be running strong between the two) Andrew bids Mia goodnight.

Lynn, meantime, continues her overtures of friendship to the secretive, aloof Mary. Though Mary still seems frightened and hesitant, Lynn is able to draw her out of her shell somewhat -- enough so, in fact, that Mary lets it slip that ever since she was a baby, she had heard about Rosehill! A surprised Lynn asks how that could be -- did Mary know someone from Rosehill? But Mary is now tight-lipped, and leaves immediately...

It's New Year's Eve in Rosehill, and it's a bitter-sweet time for all concerned. Arlene, most of all, has quite a cross to bear from the old year. She is now being moved from the local jail to prison, to serve time for the murder of Ian Russell! She and Tom have a loving, tearful farewell; but for Arlene, the farewell is something she fears will be permanent. Over five months pregnant with Ian's baby, Arlene has yet to tell Tom! She is putting off the inevitable as long as possible, for once Tom finds out she is pregnant with Ian's child, Arlene is certain she will lose Tom... Carrie, however, knows Arlene's secret, but she cannot persuade her daughter to confide in Tom. What will happen when Tom finds out?

Meg, meantime, so envied for her wealth and glamour, is in a less than enviable position. New Year's Eve is so often a time when people reassess their lives, and the new year finds Meg alone, lonely, and desperate for male companionship! She is so desperate, in fact, that she tries to get Ben to escort her to Bruce and Van's party! When Ben refuses, saying New Year's makes him miss Betsy more than ever, Meg sets her sights on Andrew! Andrew really doesn't want to go with Meg; but she can be a very persuasive and domineering woman, and, somehow, Andrew finds himself roped into it. Later, when Van and Bruce discuss Meg, Van actually suggests that not only would Andrew be good for Meg, but Meg would be good for Andrew! Bruce can't quite accept that, but Van says, if Andrew had Meg, he would have someone to take care of him!

Later that night in bed, an amorous Van makes romantic overtures to Bruce. She is surprised to discover that he has his pajama tops on. Bruce is wearing his pajamas to hide the needle marks from his extensive medical test; but, as he still hasn't told Van of his terminal illness, he simply tells her he is "christening" his new pajamas, just as she is "christening" the negligee he got her for Christmas! Still, Van senses something is wrong when their attempts at lovemaking are aborted early on because Bruce doesn't have enough energy! Poor Van is understanding, of course. She is very worried about Bruce. And Bruce is upset at this new symptom of his illness -- being unable to fulfill his wife's sexual needs.

And Mia, also, spent a very upsetting New Year's Eve. She didn't hear from Ben all weekend! She is furious, until Ben comes over with the latest chapter of his book completed and in fine form, they even kiss, wonderingly, exploringly, passionately!

But the next day, Ben gets a call from Betsy in London! He is so excited. He entertains thoughts that she misses him and is coming back to him. But when he asks her if she's coming home, she says that all depends on the arrangements of her "friend." To Ben, that "friend" sounds like a boyfriend, and that means rejection to him. Ben is again thrown into the depths of despair, and poor Mia guesses why! Oh, what will happen when -- and if -- Betsy returns to Rosehill?

Summary from SOD synopsis mid 79.This is the beginning of Ann Marcus' tenure replacing the much derided Jean Holloway.

Van and Bruce are at odds over her wanting to take a job as art instructor at Rosehill U. He wants her at home and she wonders why he feels so threatened by her joining the workforce.

Mia visits Betsy and says nothing went on between her and Ben. However,she can't help pointing out that Ben would never have come to her,had Betsy been willing to make love to Ben. Betsy feels that Mia is right.

Ben tells Betsy he loves her and only turned to Mia because she is there for him. Betsy says she fears that making love to Ben will anger Eliot and delay the divorce.She pleads with Ben to be patient.

Meg hopes to settle down with Scott after many marriages and affairs.She plans a special dinner but is disappointed when Scott says he wants a no strings affair. Meg gets a 'headache' and asks Scott to leave.Minutes later,Ben's ex cellmate Steve arrives.A nervous Meg phones Ben, but by the time he arrives,Steve has departed. Meg is not pleased to hear he was in prison for murder.

Liane reluctantly agrees to a date with Tom.To ease the pressure he suggests a double date.He asks Eliot,saying that he needs to get back out there. Eliot realises he must move on from Betsy.

The Gasperos welcome Ray home from the hospital.

When Liane is offered the chance to observe a surgery,she cancels the date with Tom. Eliot takes Jill out anyway,but is constantly thinking of Betsy.

Van starts her job and loves it. Bruce fears she'll neglect her role as dean's wife but Van hopes to move to full time in the fall.

Scott continues to pursue Meg,but she puts him off.

Dr Marriott,now acting chief of staff, tells Tony that Bambi will have to undergo treatment as an out patient.With Dr Graham at her side,Bambi returns to an apartment Tony has rented her.Bambi thinks of Tony as a dear friend,but nothing more.Tony is depressed that Bambi seems to have turned to Dr Graham.

Ray is anxious to make love to Arlene, but she want assurances that he will not accept the job offer from Don Piedro,a mobster. Ray says he's had enough of violence and crime .

Steve tells Ben he wants to turn his life around but is bitter that nobody will give an ex con a chance.He wants to study law but refuses Ben's offer to speak to Bruce.

However,Steve speaks to Bruce himself and Bruce is impressed,arranging for him to attend summer law sessions.After being rejected for jobs,he tells Bruce he's given up on law,but Bruce says together they'll make it work.

Bruce suggests Steve move in and work as a gardener . Van isn't impressed by having a murderer around the house and argues with Bruce.

Wesley,Mia's brother arrives and she agrees to let him stay with her.

Betsy agrees to dinner with Ben at Meg's house.When things turn romantic,Ben tells Betsy he's rented a motel room for the night . Betsy is angered but Ben points out they have been married and share a child.They end up arguing and Betsy storms out.

When Scott says he has something important to ask her,she thinks it's a marriage proposal.Scott,however,is merely inviting her on a cruise. Meg is angry with herself for misreading the situation.

At the time of the switch,Larry stood by Sam's bedside saying he couldn't imagine what she's going through,when actually a decade before the character had been through a similar story- when Michael Wolek took over the role from his brother James. Larry was in a fire and had to have surgery.

I wonder why they bother with these stories when most times,the new actor simply shows up one day.It had already happened when James Storm replaced Paul Tulley.

Marisa Pavan was an MGM actress from the 50's and the sister of the late Pier Angeli,another 50's actress. Guess she still expected star treatment.

Ruth Jaroslow also played Norma.

ATWT Mary Kane as Frannie Hughes in 91 replacing Mary Ellen Stuart

John Cunningham as Kevin Thomson in 78 replacing Michael Nader

SOD summary of synopsis April 1980

Carlolee and Steve feel that Mona is unfairly trying to keep Nola from her daughter.In fact, Mona has spoken to a lawyer about becoming Jessica's legal guardian.To do so she must prove her to be an unfit mother.

Nola asks Steve if Colin mentioned her or Jessica before he died-it sets Steve wondering if Colin is Jessica's real father.

Steve discovers that Colin had a series of blood tests taken and that Jessica's blood type has changed since her birth.Colin's blood type doesn't match. Steve needs to find Jason's blood type to see if his brother is actually Jessica's father.

Maggie is becoming sicker, but deluded Laura will not take her to a hospital.She is convinced that Maggie is responsible for her being thrown out of the nursing program.She does go to Hope Memorial for medication but doesn't tell MJ who the patient is. Laura is also hearing the voice of her abusive dead mother and is confusing her with Maggie.

Maggie realizes that Laura has been lying to her about the roads being blocked after the tornado and begs to be let go.Maggie collapses trying to escape.

A volunteer tells Jack she saw maggie leaving with another volunteer. Matt is relieved that Maggie is alive but concerned.

Mr Windsor discovers Luke plans to marry Missy and sets a plan in motion.

Jack is pleased to see Ashley after many years, but is disturbed by the change in her. Ashley is uncomfortable around Jack and reminders of the past.

Maggie gets Laura to talk about herself. Laura reveals her mom died 8 years ago and she shows Maggie the leter dismissing her from the nursing program.Maggie insistes it's not her handwriting and surmises that Laura's mother wrote it while in hospital at Hope. Laura doesn't want to believe thatt her mother was capable of this and turns on Maggie.

Mrs Ryason,the volunteer who spotted Maggie goes through newspaper reports and identifies the volunteer she saw with Dr Powers.Matt,Mike,Greta and Jack show the photo around,hoping someone will recognize Laura.

Steve is shocked when Mona has no intention of telling Nola that Jason is Jessica's father. She wants the child raised as an Aldrich,not a Dancy.

She tells Nola that she'd love to have her granddaughter stay on a permanent basis. Nola declines,but Mona is not giving up.

Luke and Missy are happy with the upcoming wedding,unaware that Mr Windsor is planning something terrible.

Matt and Jack track down Laura but she lies that yes,she did take a doctor home but as she spoke about her 2 small children ,it can't have been Maggie. From the bedroom,Maggie hears their voices but is too weak to call out.

Maggie says she has to get to hospital. She'll give Laura another chance in the nursing program. But Laura refuses and instead goes back to the hospital to renew the prescription. When she's told she'll have to speak to Dr Garner,she takes off,leaving the empty prescription bottle behind.

Carolee is appalled that Steve and Mona haven't told Nola that Jason is her baby's father. But Steve says he'll handle it in his own way.

Mr Windsor has Missy abducted.Luke knows he is behind it. Windsor says that Luke has to pay off his debts. Luke agrees and Missy is released,unharmed but terribly frightened and unaware that Luke is indirectly responsible. Luke knows he must make those payments as next time.Missy may be hurt.

Luke turns to Viveca for help. She agrees to help- with strings attached. Luke sleeps with Viveca, hating himself for that. Viveca demands more- he must dump Missy as she has no intention of sharing Luke.

Re Turner I guess weight gain =not hot enough

Here is a summary of SOD synopses May 79,which would have happened onscreen a few months earlier.

Mike has had an operation to walk again. Mike is hopeful. as for Sara,he hasn't forgiven her for being in love with Colin while they were married. Sara swears she now loves Mike only and he seems resigned to staying with her in a loveless(on his side) marriage.

Nola is trying to stop the aldriches searching for Jason. Mona and Steve believe Jason needs to know he is to become a father. However, Colin is the father.She tells Colin if Jason is found,he'll reveal the truth and Colin will lose the endowment Mona was planning to give him.

Carolee speaks to a rape counselor about her fears of being raped again and not telling Steve as he will be repulsed.The counselor tells Carolee not to burden and blame herself and to tell Steve the truth.

The pressure of being a young father,student and lover are getting to Billy. Greta sees he's having problems but doesn't know what to do.

Carolee tells Steve and he responds to her fears,self hatred and sorrow with support and love.

Mike is angered when Matt suggests he's not trying hard enough with rehab. Mike says he has never been good enough as a son. Matt says he's truly sorry to hear that but loves his son and always has.

Billy confides in Steve that his life is falling apart. Steve and Carole tell him to hold on with hope and strength.

Mike begins to have feelings in his legs but says nothing.Sara however,realizes and wonders why he has said nothing.

Despite Steve's best efforts,Carolee cannot share her pain with Steve. he turns to Maggie for advice.

It seems Jason does not want to be found. Nola says that building up Mona's hopes and then dashing them may not be good for her heart.Steve sees the logic in that.

Nola and Colin are both happy the search for Jason is off. Colin will get his grant money and Nola can continue the privileged life of an Aldrich.

Baby Lee Ann is rushed to hospital with meningitis and Billy is nowhere to be found.After a tense wait Lee Ann recovers.When Billy shows up Matt is furious he has failed as a father and partner.Billy tries to explain that he was missing because he was trying to sort things out. greta intervenes and also questions Billy as to where he was at this crucial time.It's too much for him and he takes off again.

Missy and Like are growing closer as are Barney and Sweeny.Kim is not pleased because she is interested in Luke for herself.

Mike's doctors suggest he go home,unaware of his hostlity to Sara. He vows they will not live together. She can have the house. he only wants to be with his son.

Steve speaks to the rape counselor and is told that in Carolee's current state of confusion she has no physical desire. Steve realizes there is a long road ahead.

Wasn't Kathleen Turner fired over weight issues?

Can't imagine why they would cast Marsha Clark as Tina,even for a short time.

Lois Robbins(ex Concetta RH) replaced Lisa Brown as Iva on ATWT in 1991

SOW reported the following actresses were in the mix for the recast of Phyllis that eventually went to Sandra Nelson

Yvonne Perry (ex Rosanna ATWT)

Mary Ellen Stewart (ex Frannie ATWT)

Ellen Wheeler (ex Vicky/Marley AW,ex Cindy AMC)

Cindy Ambuehl (ex Kim B&

Linda Dona (ex Nancy GH)

On DOOL, Nancy Stephens only appeared a couple of times and Carla Borell's stint was also short.Not sure why,but in those days,many DOOL performers started out recurring.If they clicked they were put on contract,so it appears the producers were not happy with Stephens or Borelli.

The Susan Keller recast was another story.I'll have to check why Stanger was replaced,returned and replaced again(By Melinda Fee).

Yes,Dorothy Malone was ill.The same thing happened on PP when Wilfred Hyde White played Martin Peyton due to George Macready's illness.

Julie Montgomery left as Samantha and Susan Keith replaced her. A few months later,Montgomery indicated she'd like to come back so Keith was quickly replaced.

Luckily for her ,Keith was cast as Cecile on AW

Lisa was recast twice. Pamela King the first time Fulton left in 64 and then in the early 80's with Betsy Von Furstenburg.

Thank you Loyal to AMC for the Patience Cleveland mention.For years I have only seem mention of the other Katherine replacements,but was sure I had seen another actress play the role. i convinced myself it was McKenzie,but when I saw the name in your post I remembered the voiceover announcing the change.

I recall she was in scenes with Liz and looked more like Julianna McCarthy than Jeanne Cooper.

I don't think Harriet Hall was a temp replacement.Julia Barr left the role of Brooke when her contract was up and Hall was the new Brooke.She wasn't popular and Julia Barr returned to the role.

Peter Bergman auditioned for Brad Vernon on OLTL,replacing Jameson Parker.Steve Fletcher got the role.

That lead Bergman to AMC,who were bringing back Jeff Martin.They decided instead to drop Jeff and create Cliff Warner.

Once Lorna was on the scene,Lisa(Felicia's niece)was forgotten.Then there was Jenna.They kept tying young women to Felicia and dropping them,so she was left alone again.

I didn't like Anne Howard and what they did with Nicole.i always thought Philece Sampler would have been a better Nicole than Donna,especially if she played her like Renee on Days,which is more in keeping with the original Nicole character.

It would have been interesting had Nicole been released from jail and seeing how she tried to fit in to Bay City and how Donna and Cass would have reacted.The writers could have played her as reformed and desperate to make a new start,or hardened by her prison time or a little psycho with an obsession for Cass,

I think Sean McKinnon was MJ's son from an offscreen marriage.

I disliked that the Frames were brought back by inventing characters like Dean and Frankie.Why not have Frankie be Molly?

Giving Russ a daughter was a good idea but her Matthews connection was forgotten and his other daughter Olivia was also written out.

What about Sam and Lahoma's daughter(Rachel's cousin and Ada's niece.)?

There was way too many cast changes where viable characters were dropped.

AW should have kept the concentric circle theme in each opening-each of the circls representing those 'other worlds' we live in privately or strive to be a part of.

They did the right thing by bringing back Dennis, but where were Nancy,Ben, Nicole and others who tied into existing characters and had heaps of story potential.

Philip Brown never made it to air on GL. After taping a few episodes,he quit and Hunt Block was rushed in to retape all of the scenes.

Thanx Gilbert for taking the time to post these. Steve had some great stuff on his site. Hopefully,you will be able to post it here.

Thanks Cedric for keeping The Doctors thread alive. Doug Marland was the writer at the time.

Does anyone know who played Doreen's father Evan?

Looking forward to it!

What was her relationship with Victoria Wyndham, both professionally and personally?

Memories of Constance Ford?

What led her to return to the role?

What was the feeling on the set during each stint i.e. being on a low rated show/one facing cancellation?

Thanks.