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James Reilly created Passions for the middle schoolers and high schoolers that were too young to watch his run on Days. Notice the NBC run was 8 years. A 12 year old in 1999 would be 20 in 2007, so the NBC run covers their whole teen years.
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5 hours ago, Khan said:
Nobody, that is, except Myrtle Urkel.
Thanks for the laugh Khan.
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12 hours ago, SteelCity said:
I just hope it's not SET in Atlanta. I'm rather tired of it. Black people live other places! Hopefully it's a fictional city like classic soaps.
What about New Orleans as a setting?
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Nobody wants to see Eddie Winslow on OnlyFans.
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JFP was EP from 1987-1990, that overlaps w/ Santa Barbara Daytime Emmy peak years 1988-1990. Was there block voting?
These are Santa Barbara Emmy results in the main acting categories.
Winners
Justin Deas: Supporting Actor 1988, 1989 (also nominated 1987)
Marcy Walker: Lead Actress 1989 (also nominated 1987, 1988)
Nancy Lee Grahn: Supporting Actress 1989
Justin Gocke: Younger Actor 1989 (also nominated 1991)
A Martinez: Lead Actor 1990 (also nominated 1987-1989, 1991-1993)
Henry Darrow: Supporting Actor 1990
Nominees
Nicolas Coster: Lead Actor 1986; Supporting Actor 1988; Lead Actor 1991, 1992
Dame Judith Anderson: Supporting Actress 1986
Robin Wright: Younger Actress 1986-1988
Richard Eden: Supporting Actor 1987
Robin Mattson: Supporting Actress 1987-1989
Ross Kettle: Younger Actor 1988
Roscoe Born: Supporting Actor 1990
Sydney Penny: Younger Actress 1993
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4 minutes ago, YRfan23 said:
That's one of the movies that I think sort of inspired some of the original Lauren/Scott/Sheila storyline, (and "Single White Female") so lord have mercy of JG's soul if that's the case.....
The Hand that Rocks the Cradle and Single White Female were both released in 1992 so I think those might have had some influence on Sheila's B&B first run.
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Does anyone know the original air date of the Dina/Ashley flashbacks in the video @Joseph posted? I'm guessing Spring or Summer 1985.
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Is Josh Griffith going to dust off The Hand that Rocks the Cradle for the Kyle/Summer/Claire storyline?
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4 hours ago, P.J. said:
kalbir--thanks for the clairification. I checked---that's when HB and Reva came back married and Josh had his accident.
You're welcome.
From the 1990s ratings thread, weeks where GL won the time slot over General Hospital
July 29-August 2, 1991
August 19-23, 1991
September 2-6, 9-13, 16-20, 23-27, 30-October 4, 7-11, 1991
November 18-22, 25-29, 1991
April 13-17, 20-24, 27-May 1, 4-8, 1992
May 18-22, 1992
June 1-5, 8-12, 1992
June 22-26, 29-July 3, 1992
August 3-7, 10-14, 17-21, 24-28, 31-September 4, 1992
September 14-18, 21-25, 28-October 2, 1992
October 19-23, 1992
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31 minutes ago, P.J. said:
'84 is the year GL knocked GH out of #1
That did not happen. It was proven in the 1980s ratings thread. GL won the time slot over General Hospital May 28-June 1, 1984; June 4-8, 1984; June 11-15, 1984. Y&R was #1 those three weeks.
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On 5/10/2024 at 7:23 AM, yrfan1983 said:
Great find! But it does make me sad... Nikki should never ever be on the Crimson Lights set... she is a "Lady of the Manor". ..
Mid-1990s Nikki was so snooty lady of the manor and she needed to be knocked down a peg or two by being reminded that she was the OG ho turned housewife.
On 5/10/2024 at 7:23 AM, yrfan1983 said:Such a decline in quality by July '95... end of an era
I consider 1983-1998 Y&R's thriving years, but there were two low points in that time: Cricket eating the show second half of 1986 until end of 1989, and going off-track second half of 1994 through first half of 1997.
The off-track era was marked by Summer 1994 frat party, Nick/Sharon eating the show Fall 1994-Spring 1996, and the lull Fall 1996 through first half of 1997. It overlaps w/ the aftermath of OJ and time slot rival Reilly Days blowing up. As we all know, Y&R nearly lost #1 in Summer 1997 to Reilly Days.
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10 hours ago, VelekaCarruthers said:
I have to say P&G/CBS were big into throwing the kitchen sink at the writers' rooms of both ATWT which lost Marland in spring 93 and GL which lost Curlee spring 1994. Neither show easily recovered, if ever.
By June 1994 both shows were not in a good place creatively and thus effectively over in the aftermath of OJ. I wouldn't say both shows limped along in their final 15 years though.
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2 minutes ago, NothinButAttitude said:
This would make sense. I always took the P&G soaps as the theatre type shows--more refined compared to others.
Maybe its me, but I found the P&G shows to be more community-based whereas the Bell shows were more family/business conflict-based.
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6 minutes ago, j swift said:
Is this Sue Ellen's final season? Bcause they're discussing Pam in hospital, not letting anyone see her.
Victoria Principal left Spring 1987. Linda Gray left Spring 1989.
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2 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:
Is it at GL that they say Jill first conceived of trying to block vote?
I'd say it started at Santa Barbara.
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6 hours ago, vanguard said:
Seriously, I'm having so much fun envisioning this show.
I want a power couple named Stefan and Alicia. Stefan, pro athlete turned tech mogul, and Alicia, WAG turned event planner extraordinaire. Guess who I'm basing them on?
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Alot of GL Daytime Emmy nominations from JFP run were speculated to be the result of block voting.
JFP run was July 1991-May 1995, so that covers 1992-1996 Daytime Emmys. Here are GL's results in those years.
Winners
Maeve Kinkead: Supporting Actress 1992 (also nominated for Lead Actress 1993 and 1995)
Ellen Parker: Supporting Actress 1993
Monti Sharp: Younger Actor 1993 (also nominated 1994)
Michael Zaslow: Lead Actor 1994 (also nominated 1992, 1993, and 1995)
Justin Deas: Supporting Actor 1994, Lead Actor 1995
Melissa Hayden: Younger Actress 1994 (also nominated 1993)
Jerry verDorn: Supporting Actor 1995, 1996 (also nominated 1992 and 1994)
Kevin Mambo: Younger Actor 1996
Nominees
Rick Hearst: Supporting Actor 1992, 1993, 1995
Maureen Garrett: Supporting Actress 1992, 1994
Jeff Phillips: Younger Actor 1992
Beth Ehlers: Younger Actress 1992, 1993
Mark Derwin: Lead Actor 1993
Bryan Buffington: Younger Actor 1993-1995
Peter Simon: Lead Actor 1994
Fiona Hutchison: Lead Actress 1994
Hilary Edson: Supporting Actress 1994
Melina Kanakaredes: Younger Actress 1994, Supporting Actress 1995
Marj Dusay: Lead Actress 1995
Jean Carol: Supporting Actress 1995
Rachel Miner: Younger Actress 1995
Frank Beaty: Supporting Actor 1996
Kimberly J. Brown: Younger Actress 1996
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Sticking w/ the originals on Y&R
Chancellor Industries and Prentiss Industries we don't know exactly what they were involved in.
Newman Enterprises we know as a multinational conglomerate w/ all sorts of divisions.
Mergeron Corporation had a cosmetics division that rivalled Jabot, not sure what else it was involved in.
Jabot Cosmetics and Fenmore's department store pretty self-explanatory.
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25 minutes ago, MarlandFan said:
Some voters may have disliked Hubbard's personal attitudes or her "ad lib" acting style or thought she had already won enough (2 competitive). I truly think the honor is in being nominated. (That being said, I still don't know why Kathryn Hays never received a nod.)
Elizabeth Hubbard has one Lead Actress win for The Doctors.
As the World Turns has three Lead Actress Emmy wins, Martha Byrne (2001) and Maura West (2007, 2010), and Lead Actress nominees Elizabeth Hubbard (1986-1992, 1999), Ellen Dolan (1993), Kathleen Widdoes (1994), Colleen Zenk (2002, 2011).
Notably absent to me are Eileen Fulton (she got one nomination for Supporting Actress in 1988), Kathryn Hays, Marie Masters, Hillary B Smith (she won for One Life to Live in 1994), Tamara Tunie.
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1 hour ago, Khan said:
I would add "going after younger demographics,"
I never thought of the demographics angle, considering CBS has always skewed older.
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2 minutes ago, Khan said:
She might've written that in order to save face. "I walked away" sounds better in that context than "I was pushed out."
True. Then again every Linda Gray article/interview I've come across over the years has always said that she left by her own choice.
I don't know if it was the 1985 or 1990 departure, but Charlene Tilton once said that Lorimar wanted her to say that she left by her own choice but she wasn't down for that and said she was fired. I believe the 1990 departure was reported as lack of storyline but I say salary dump.
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1 hour ago, Maxim said:
And The OG Caroline. People still talk about her decades later which is saying a lot.
In some parts of the world B&B was titled Caroline.
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5 hours ago, NothinButAttitude said:
Still shocking that Liz Hubbard never won an EMMY as Lucinda.
Seven consecutive nominations (1986-1992) and a final nomination in 1999. These were the races
1986: Elizabeth Hubbard, Susan Lucci, Peggy McCay, Erika Slezak (winner), Kim Zimmer
1987: Elizabeth Hubbard, Susan Lucci, Frances Reid, Marcy Walker, Kim Zimmer (winner)
1988: Helen Gallagher (winner), Elizabeth Hubbard, Susan Lucci, Erika Slezak, Marcy Walker
1989: Jeanne Cooper (her first nomination), Elizabeth Hubbard, Susan Lucci, Marcy Walker (winner)
1990: Jeanne Cooper, Elizabeth Hubbard, Finola Hughes, Susan Lucci, Kim Zimmer (winner)
1991: Julia Barr, Jeanne Cooper, Elizabeth Hubbard, Finola Hughes (winner), Susan Lucci
1992: Jeanne Cooper, Elizabeth Hubbard, Susan Lucci, Erika Slezak (winner), Jessica Tuck
1999: Jeanne Cooper, Elizabeth Hubbard, Susan Lucci (winner), Melody Thomas Scott, Kim Zimmer
Maybe someone at CBS/P&G didn't put together very good submissions, who knows.
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I watched the first episode of Passions to see what it was going to be like and my reaction was "this show is made for the kids and its done in three months". NBC kept it for 8 years.