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2 minutes ago, OzFrog said:

 

One could only dare to guess what would happen if you locked Sasha & Willow and their anti-counterparts in one room together. Would the entire universe just implode on itself?

Haha. I’d be satisfied if Sasha and Willow simply didn’t make it out alive.

Why does Peter’s face only move below the eyes? You see his jaw and neck just going crazy, but the eyes and forehead are as still as stone. Botox? (Yes, this is what it’s come to.)

I love Britt and Brook Lynn. They’re like the anti-Sasha and Willow.

Lol don’t get us shut down in this thread with the Vola Voof talk. She’ll materialize, and it’ll be a wrap. I was here for the lunacy back in the day.

Just to show I can walk and chew gum at the same time: when Liam fainted, I definitely said to myself, “What a little bitch.” But I also thought, “Damn, Scott Clifton has some nice quads in those pants.”

1 minute ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Are they really going to go there with Xander and Chanel?

 

And the more I think about Abby and the way that she's been lately, the more I think that isn't really Abby, and that another alter came out somehow.

There are moments when Marci’s Abby is giving me Alicia Coppola-as-Lorna vibes (just a hint).

19 minutes ago, FrenchBug82 said:

 

I hear you but this is exactly a reason why soaps are having so much difficulty: we complain when all the gays are domesticated but we also worry when LGBT characters are overly sexualized and "predatory". 
For a cautious producer, it does feel like they can't win. So they don't try. I want more representation and that does include "bad-acting" characters and, yes, at times flamboyant characters because some of us are like that and it is OK.

What can't be is no representation or limited caricatural representation. But I am fine with a variety of LGBTQ characters including different facets of the human experience and we are never going to get anywhere if we overreact to anything that resembles a trope.
Because, let's be blunt, 90% of characters in soaps, regardless of gender or sexual identity, are tropes.

I will give an example: Adam on Y&R slept with a man for his own purposes. Do you think it is better for LGTBQ representation that that has never been mentioned ever again and that he has never been described as bisexual - let alone used that aspect of him for story - or that they explored it even in the context of admittedly a scheme that used his (gay) one-time lover for his own purposes?

Personally, I would have loved this to be a proper story and a part of his subsequent identity, even if Adam is fundamentally an antagonist, rather than a forgotten footnote they quickly backed away from.

This is the issue I had with potentially making Thomas bisexual on B&B. I was troubled by the idea that the very first queer male character in B&B history, on a show set in the *fashion industry*, being an abusive nutcase. It just veers too close to equating queer sexuality with pathology and psychosis. If there’d been a rich tradition of queer male characters on B&B, fine. Break open the poppers. But it didn’t sit well with me. Similar to how distasteful it was that OLTL made its first post-Billy Douglas gay male character a serial killer.

I love seeing Lily get snippy with Victoria. Why did they wait so long?

They finally came for Scott Rudin’s demented ass.

1 minute ago, victoria foxton said:

I like normal people on soaps. Not every character has to be flashy. GL's Rick & Abby spring to mind. When i think of normal characters. But they had personalities. Michael & Willow are just pretty mannequins. 

Loved Rick and Abby. Mike and Carrie on DAYS were another normie couple I loved. But Michael/Willow are like Miracle Whip without the zing. JMO. YMMW.

This Claire doesn’t seem like she’d set someone on fire (twice), true.

They are doing a decent job moving Chanel around town. If this were Y&R, she’d still be in Devon’s apartment.
 

3 minutes ago, ChitHappens said:

Oh and allow me to toss in that Valentin and Carly are sexy af!  The quad, if we must, should be Sonny/Carly/Val/Nina.  There is simply no room for Jax in this equation.  Dingo can exit!  

Valentin/Carly is a pairing I never really considered. It’s an interesting thought. He certainly gets under her skin. I just need JPS to eat a Ritz cracker or something.

Sick.

From Vietnam  

RTD did her SO dirty. I find it a huge blemish on his career, and I respect him a lot. While Martha got many opportunities to be a bad-ass, she essentially got sidelined in that season’s best episodes by two white chicks (Carey Mulligan and Jessica Hynes). Plus the Jones family were never developed in the same way Rose’s mother Jackie or Wilfred were. I was glad to see Adjoa Anjoh get *something* to work with on Bridgerton because RTD made Francine look like an idiot.

Gugu Mbatha-Raw’s career has been going gangbusters. I’d love to see her and Freema work together again.

Just stumbled on Freema on New Amsterdam, the NBC medical drama (where she has the most gorgeous braids and is paired with Daniel Dae Kim). It’s just so gratifying to see what an actress she’s become. She, Karen, and Billie were all great on DW, if a bit green to start, but they’ve become such seasoned and rich performers. Billie, of course, is so respected as a stage actress now.

7 minutes ago, Vee said:

 

What on EARTH? Stunned.

From Ghana  
 

39 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

YW.

 

So far from where I am at, CH is doing great, but Sally herself is not being written to her potential.

 

Sounds like she's gotten better from January to now. Unless someone wants to say differently.

 

 

She’s certainly better, and they’re playing her opposite Michelle Stafford, which is a more even match than Hunter King. It feels like they realized they were playing Sally too young, and CH has enough gravitas to joust with the vets.

Still it’s Josh Griffith’s Y&R in 2021, so she’s not written nearly as well as she could be.

2 minutes ago, victoria foxton said:

The way Laura cringed in fear from Cyrus was awful. 

Yeah, today was a mess, and that was one of many WTF moments.

19 minutes ago, j swift said:

So, yes I want more LGBTQIA+ stories in daytime, but not until there is some maturity in how the stories are told.

You make great points. In many cases, the types of small-town settings for soaps are the type of places queer people often leave for bigger cities with more dating options (London, NYC, Los Angeles). The City would have been a great opportunity to showcase LGBTQ characters. I know they attempted something with Azure, the trans model, but you can’t tell a credible NYC story without gays and lesbians.
 

There are SO many issues that gay men that are unique that aren’t tied to blatant homophobia and gay-bashing, HIV fears, or coming out to friends and family. I would love to see gay characters who are older than 30 or 40 on these shows for once.
 

In theory, trans characters should have more romantic “options,” but there are a lot of very complicated issues there as well. Notably, hesitation from cis people to pair up with trans people, and how to dramatize that. But it’s also an opportunity to show them learning and growing.

It’s sort of amazing: NLG and Lauren Koslow are the only women born before 1960 who’ve been reasonably  consistently written for (if not always written well, NLG rarely)  on soaps over the past several years.

Cyrus is such a lukewarm villain. This show used to be so good at baddies. 

43 minutes ago, kalbir said:

I thought Lil Nas X was going to be a one hit wonder after Old Town Road. His Billboard Hot 100 history is 2 #1s, 1 Top 5 (Panini), and 2 Top 40 (Rodeo, Holiday). 

Dude is pretty marketing-savvy. Never thought I’d see an explicit song about gay male love and sex (name-checking a contemporary gay movie classic and accompanied by a music video featuring him giving Satan a lapdance) shoot to No. 1. Yet here we are, in the Year of our Lord 2021.

Male bisexuality is so frightening, confusing, and threatening for a lot of people, I think. Some gay men included! We’re more likely to get bisexual female characters like Otalia on GL and Mariah on Y&R.

Rex on OLTL, of course, is a character that should have been bi. And apparently almost was.