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Lilith and Hank(ATWT first gay character...sorry Luke...lol) <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO0EcyIk8zM?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO0EcyIk8zM?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO0EcyIk8zM?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

Robert Tyler.....yummmmm <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOPd-_RN0MU?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOPd-_RN0MU?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOPd-_RN0MU?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

Hensley was not a fan of reveritng it back. He wanted all memories of Lily lost for good. I floved Holden's return in 96..riding home in a motorcyle and showing the Snyder farm.

And some Carly and Scott(Doug Wert) scenes. <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-upqiayDLg?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-upqiayDLg?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-upqiayDLg?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

Some Doug Wert scenes with Rosanna...Yvonne Perry. http://www.youtube.c...h?v=wTSD0rP5d-o Love me some Connor <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w1oHV0XUIE?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w1oHV0XUIE?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w1oHV0XUIE?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

I remember fans complaning about all the rewrites in Lisa's past. They also were furious that Lisa would actually leave a child behind. Breen was outstanding as Will...loved that story with Michelle Forbes. Yeah ..Doug Wert had nice pecs didnt he...lol I floved Doug Wert too.....sorry PJ........lol That's why I didnt like Ellen in the role of Margo for the longest time because she had no chemistry with any of her men. I prefered HBS as Margo. There were two version of Scott..I mean written wise.....but I hated Scott being paired with Rosanna. They had zero chemistry. Later he got involved with Carly...again I didnt see any chemistry with them. They could have easily made Scott with Wert in the role gay. I would have bought it!

Mitch..I think u also mentioned the whole fiasco with Scott Eldridge. I think that was one of Marland's worse stories ever. It did bring in a good character in Scott and his fights with brother Tom but the set up for his arrival was so badly written. So much of changing Lisa history and backstory.....I actually hated the story until Joseph Breen came to Oakdale. I forgot how Scott found out Lisa was his mother.

Harriet thats it...ugh...lol...horrible character..such a waste. As for Marland....I think he was ready to freeze Holden and Lily when he had him lose his memory for good. I think he said they would have to fall in love all over again or nothing. So it was either to make Lily and Holden fresh by giving them something new to do or he was ending them as a couple. But that changed when he died and Caso and Co. gave him his memory back. I remember Jon Hensley wasnt happy with that decision. I think Marland wrote the vets very well during his reign but didnt write the "sidekicks" co stars very well except for maybe Lilieth...Douglas Cummings...Tonio....James Stenbeck was already on the canvas and wasnt Marland's creation but I am glad Marland didnt write him off.

Lucinda was always love to me. I think the only reason Earl was created was because he(Granger) was invovled with the EP at the time. Earl brought nothing to the show. I cringed everytime Shannon called him...Uncle Earl....ugh. He was a fugly gay man..sorry....lol..... and speaking of Shannon...couldnt stand her sidekick...gawd what was her name.....she was such an annoying boring character too. The only interesting part about Shannon was when Lilieth appeared....loved her. Duncan and Shannon were so boring together. Michael Swan was such a boring character as well. When Shannon returned in the mid 90's she looked so rejuvanted..fresh....only to be written out. The Star you think was Frank Ruyenon...hmmmm.....Was Steve still there when Marland started?? IF he was....then Marland is the one that sent him to jail for drug trafficing...and then put Betsy with Josh...which I found rather odd and dull....lol.....I did like Betsy freedom from Steve even though I was a big Steve and Betsy fan. And I floved Lyndsay Frost as new Betsy....

Gotta love Lucinda!! I couldn't stand the Earl Mitchell character...so dull and boring. I prefered her with Grant Coleman.

That's a shame because I liked the Heather character better than Jessica that Marland created. Tonya Pinkins is a great actress. I think maybe Marland had Jessica in mind and they didnt need both her and Heather on the canvas since she(Heather) wasnt Marland's creation.

The pre-Marland stuff I thought was fantastic. I enjoyed it a lot. Was Bunim EP at the time of all the backstage mess?? I loved Diana and the Montgomerys....Craig..etc....once Marland came in the show became more of the Waltons with a lot of Dallas sprinkled into it. Which I liked as well.

William still has it..mmmmmm

Still watching Season 2 and was surprised to see Brenda Dickson on Falcon Crest....lol I am not sure if she was on Y&R yet. She had a scene with Abby Dalton as she went looking for her husband. I'm trying to remember the stories once again since I havent seen them in a long time. So Jacquline is Chase and Richard's mother?? So that would make them brothers but in a later season cliffhanger...season 6 I believe Angela finds out Richard is her son. So that would make them cousins. Richard was stolen from Angela but I forgot from who. And Melissa's baby Joseph is Cole's. What ever happened to Joseph?? Did he leave with Cole? I can't recall.

Enjoying watching Season 2 today Thought Id post an interesting pic..since we have been talking about both

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Loved this GL promo...quick turn on the light campaign <object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJZFUv4dH9E?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJZFUv4dH9E?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJZFUv4dH9E?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>

Loved this promo! <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-ytvusjRGM?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-ytvusjRGM?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-ytvusjRGM?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

Interesting that Henry Stern and Stephen Black were writers for Falcon Crsst during the second season. Too bad their work at ATWT sucked. <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_UfdUud0vA?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_UfdUud0vA?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_UfdUud0vA?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

Here is the episode Carl...though it's in German....Julia as a nun....trying to kill Angela again and the fire <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJjFrcFqeOQ?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJjFrcFqeOQ?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJjFrcFqeOQ?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

I read somewhere too that Jane and Mel didnt get along and that's why he was killed off. I didnt hear anything about Simon. Julia's later appearances were good too. At the end of Season 3 she is presumed dead during a fire at FC and eveyone boards a plane to release Julia's ashes ...forgot the place..and thus the plane crash for season 3. Later she returns very much alive explaining she escaped the fire by going underneath the house..some secret pathway...

In a later season when Julia returns reformed as a Nun....she mentions to Angela that she went crazy because she was tired of being under Angela's thumb. Dana Sparks was awful on FC and Passions. Ha....I did hear JW and Lana Turner didnt get along...the same for Robert....Though I also heard Robert was difficult to work with.

I remember the cliffhanger vividly. I was shocked to find out Julia had murdered Melissa's dad. I remember in Season 1 when she didnt care for FC. So her now caring about Lance losing everything was out of character. The twist like you said was good. I dont recall what season Vicky left. I thought she wasnt needed. I hated her recast Donna Sparks..or whatever her name was...lol And yes..Joe Lambie was hot.........

The above was season 3 cliffhanger...and this one is season 2 cliffhanger..which I loved! <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOyFWR2cp-E?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOyFWR2cp-E?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOyFWR2cp-E?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>