EricMontreal22

Twin Peaks is fantastic--I'm one of the few who almost prefers season 2... Am I the only one following Peyton Place?

Was this the one with Drew Barrymore?

Thanks for bumping this! I got a LOT of Amazon gift money for Xmas and blew some of it on primetime soaps I had never been able to see and was curious about--I got the first two seasons of Knots Landing, and both volumes of Peyton Place. I haven't sat down with Knots yet, but I've always been curious to see it partly as it seemed to be one of the more lower key primetime soaps compared to Dallas and Dynasty, etc (About ten years ago the country music station here in Canada aired Dallas reruns every morning--I think I watched the first three seasons or so. I liked it a lot but I have to admit it wasn't fully compelling to me--not enough to justify buying the DVDs at this time anyway, though Knots looks to be more my thing). But I'm already done with the first box set of Peyton--I think it's *outstanding* stuff. I knew I'd like it, I liked the novel, liked the movies, like the actors, but I didn't expect it to be as sophisticated as it is. For a show that was so rushed, some of the direction honestly reminds me of a Sirk melodrama! It's a fascinating mix of what we consider a primetime soap (which in my experience are more plot driven than daytime ones) and daytime ones. I'm already dreading what will happen when I'm done the second set--I may break down and buy a bootleg set from ebay.

I admit I hadn't heard much of her originally planned release--I knew the 2 of Hearts cover which was cute, but not essential, and that was it as well as the original Your Love is Better with Girls Aloud doing backing. I think she might do a small tour here this year, actually--she's very sweet, as well as great sounding live, so I'd jump at any chance.

Even more than Little Boots it's such an authentic sounding Italo (80s' Italian disco) knock off, I love it) And Anthonio's Answer (really Richard X singing)

SOme are and some aren't--Anthonio was done with Richard X for his label in the Spring (and had a great "answer song" from Anthonio called Annie). I posted the article in the pop music review thread (or "revie" lol) From Wiki: All Night EP (Special Edition Bonus Disc) 1."All Night" (Annie, P. Epworth) Produced by Paul Epworth 2."I Know UR Girlfriend Hates Me" (Annie, H. Robinson, Richard X, T. Kaukolampi) Produced by Richard X 3."Anthonio" (Annie, H. Robinson, Richard X) Produced by Richard X 4."I Can't Let Go" (Annie, T. Kaukolampi) Produced by Timo Kaukolampi 5."Sweet" (Annie, B. Higgins, M. Cooper, N. Coler, T. Powell) Produced by Xenomania Nearly every song IMHO coulda, or shoulda been on the album. Of course I love nearly anything Richard X and especially Xenomania (yeah I'm a huge Girls Aloud fan) produce.

Two more Moroder tracks--Suzi Lane, a model from Germany had one disco album and then disappeared, but it's a gem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ueCBvhPFAs And his own In Love With Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGnP6X-0Wnk

My fave Supremes disco is Let Yourself Go: Mororder did two great disco albums with the girl group 3 Degrees, who i think actually had tighter harmonies than Supremes (they were Prince Charles' fave act LOL) Sheena Easton covered this first single on her ridiculous "pink pound baiting" gay dance flop CD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QZKZ3eqOXY

I posted her New Yorker profile in this forum I love that writer--and have been a fan of hers for ages. One complaint was my fave song of hers from this new album, the Italo hommage "Anthonio" isoddly only on the 2 disc edition fo her new cd! of course I had to get it, but... But yeah I have all her singles and albums--have seen her twice glad to see other fans!

Doesn't seem to be any video but here's one track http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xui1Ahtohlk And just to show the ridiculous poor taste disco went into, here's the brilliant, x rated, gay club hit Cruisin' the Streets by Boystown Gang in full (NOT safe for work or around kids or your parents) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RyTYJ16mvg

Do you know french singer Patrick Juvet, who had a disco career in French and English? Morali (again) did two actually great eurodisco albums with him, the most famous being Paris By Night and I Love America. He fits your description above and was pretty dreamy back in the day.

Well I love Chic. I actually like recent stuff and then 70s disco (well and early 80s synth stuff--you all knowmy Moroder love) so I get some of that. Some current guilty pleasures: Richie Family (created by Jacques Morali who did the Village People) This one's ridiculous--gay and straight porn star Dennis Parker (who under a diff name then went on to star on Edge of Night before dieing sadly of AIDS) did an album with Jacques Morali as well. Only one good track on the whole album (like a lot of disco) but it's a great guilty pleasure--especially in its 7 minute original--Morali admitted he was trying to make it sound like Moroder all synths and slinky strings. Love the non subtle lyrical metaphor about cruising a gay bar--"like an eagle": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GZulX2184A

I love Miike Snow, the new band created by uberproducers Bloodshy and Avant (Britney's Radar, Toxic, Kylie's Speakerphone, etc). Alphabeat's first album was pop perfection--it's funny to hear tracks like Fascination and He's Not Your Boyfriend now show up on US commercials. Their new albums is apparently less ABBA and more early 90s dance hommage--think Black Box lol. Lead single:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EJUCkSMN4k Kesha is a low rent Gaga IMHO, I don'treally have much interest in her one way or the other--but I do liek this song, though her singing makes it sound awfully insincere. It was produced/written by Greg Kurstin for a failed project with a different singer he was doing, and then Kesha's label bought the backing and had her record on top of it.

Two ones from about 6months ago that have been getting some rotation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeJBd746-4w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=769atcL8rpc Hrmm

I preferwhen Calvin does songs for thers--Kylie and Roisin Murphy... Isn't it interesting what vastly different views on beauty people have?

I know, I'm hoping she won't read my post *grin* But yeah you can tell she's censoring her thoughts some--to be fair I think this is one way she got so far. She's not a Bill Bell type man, and she worked in a different time than Irna Phillips when networks had more control--Agnes' way of being wasvery savvy to get her and give her the control she wanted.

I think it's a great interview even if I dislike some of the interviewer's questions (Agnes seems, in her polite way, annoyed by her which i love). It doesn't put me to sleep like Bill Bell's one does BUT I do agree that just once I'd like to see Agnes drop her veneer and say completely honestly what she thinks. Maybe she has a tell all in a vault somewhere to be published when she passes away. That said I think you can tell when she likes someone or not by what she says and her expression, but I've wasted tons of hours watching her lol. And she and Bill Bell always had a lot of respect for each other (though it'd annoye me the way he refers to her as Aggie in his condescending way ) you're obviously projecting, Sylph (Besides when Agnes was in charge her shows routinely beat out Bill's, not to mention he co wrote the first disastrous year of AW which she famously turned around ) SFK I actually agree re college. I got the feeling Agnes wanted Loving to be like AMC was in the 70s and, with the hour change, big business angles etc was losing track of, but with a college basis. Of course by the time third writer Ralph Ellis came in it too was all about Alden Enterprises, etc, which again added to a loss of identity. I wish that promo of Agnes talking about Loving would be reposted--I just found it so funny like Agnes basically trying to convey how the show will be with ABC in the background trying to make it sound liek this Big Sexy Action Packed Soap! You can tell there was some awkward mix there (but obviously Marland seems to have agreed more, at least at first, with Agnes' plan. When he left and she came in the show did become a bit more sex and meldramatic--maybe he left because that's what the networks asked for?)

Agnes actually mentioned that prob about a college based show--to be fair the Aldens were key players from the start (and were connected to the college)--I think the first two years stuck fairly closely to a college background--then it didn't come back till '92 or so. They DID have tent pole "older' characters--Ava's mom (think Mona Kane), Isabelle Alden, etc, but I think your point is valid.

SHe may have been mad he left when he did--in the LONG youtube interview (3 hours or whatever) with her she of course has only ncie things to say abou tanyone, or else she kinda politely declines to answer--re Douglas she basically says she has great respect for his talents, etc. I believe it was him who asked that his name be removed from the created by credit

I wonder if it's cuz they want a retro Beverly Hills Cop type score? I had assumed he had just retired and was living off the huge profits that crap liek Crazy Frod covering Axell F was paying him.

Interesting, in the Agnes Nixon Paley Center video interviews on her site, someone asks about how recently (this was 1988) AMC had started using film music cues sometimes. Hima nd Agnes mention Erica's theme being from the movie Somwhere in Time and Cyndi's AIDS story used music from The Untouchables

I have a good friend from South Africa and somehow we got talking about American soaps--he said as of this year the ones they had were DAYS, B&B, Y&R, and AMC. Then he asked me about Loving and said it was such a huge show there--everyone knew about Ava and talked about her, he was shocked to find out it was never a hit here. Funny as I had read elsewhere it was big in South Africa, but kinda didn't believe it

On Agnesnixon.com in the second Paley Series interview (anyone with the free time I've had the past two days into Agnes or soaps owes it to themselves to watch these--fantastic stuff) in the third part Agnes answers some questions about Loving--like if she thinks it willbe as big as AMC and OLTL (It was almost 5 years old at the time) and then some questions about the Sowelsky's (the actor who played Harry had just left for 6 months to be on the new Mary Tyler Moore show), if she'd recast a role, etc. She does stress that there was a desire by her to have a show finally with a college campus on it as on her other shows it had proved difficult to have the characters leave for college (I guess this was before OLTL or AMC had their made up colleges)

*CRY* I shoulda saved it I wonder why it was... Joel Fabiani was on Dynasty? lol I know nothing... Forgot all about Azure (the first transgendered character on soaps, right? though they had no idea what to dow ith her and her bf). When did Steffi leave? And was it announced then that Deb had the Alden mansion? I don't remember any of that. Can't wait to see the episode.