EricMontreal22

The second episode completely won me over! Can't wait for ep 3! BTW HBO has a great viewer's guide http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/#!/guide/houses/ that helped me sort out the characters relationships and backstory but unlike Wikipedia isn't filled with spoilers from the first sentence on.

Back in the day I actually really would agree with you--I think now I'm just overun by nostalgia fever. But no one I knew likes Laurel, and I know Noah was beloved by many--but I liked everyone connected to his stories, except him. The only thinf I dislike now about this era is the background music--it's so pervasive! I think back then I didn't even notice. Because you know if Pine Valley had a Heaven it would be one that looked like an Easter garden party....

Welcome! I wish he had more AMC cuz, yeah, the video quality is terrific. I kinda get why some felt that by 1987 the show had become a bit too segmented, but it's terrific stuff.

Totally agreed. It seemed especially odd with Griff--the online "character preview" episode was him all shirtless--and in the new credits they show him the same way. But we've gotten kinda half shots of him when injured which could not be remotely called gratuitous--and that's it. Aside from that one Scott scene, we haven't had any male semi nudity really on the show all year it seems. Wouldn't things like male nudity fall down more to the EP than the HW? Don't forget GL (although a long time now) had the male ass shot.

It's really odd how AMC has completely toned down the sex/"nudity" in the past few years when it would have made sense to play it up. I'm not sure if I mind--I would hate to have seen it turned into what OLTL is right now (though during the Rayfield era it was close) but...

Ha Whoomp There It Is was hardly just a "Black" hit anyway...

For me, at the time, it was *wow* TV. I think in hindsight it looks tame--yet not at all compared to (not to pick on another fallen show) what OLTL had done a years later

Yeah and it ended up Opal wwho questioned his sexuality over and over. Even though none of Pine Valley was too homophobic--I think it showed the riff in a realistic light

Teens will never be written as masture adults again I think...

And speaking of the flashback monologue from Adam against gays here is pretty great 5 mins Go to 4:50 for Adam defending why Scott shouldn't be homophobic, "Enid Nelson will be leading her bridgade down along mainstreet, while your dad will be painting a watercolour that could make Monet weep"! That was a quote I wrote in my notebook--and couldn't remember till now.

Noah's trial speech is up there too--one of th first times I bought someone could move from crime to not...

Some of this is afterschool special, but the fact they discuss religion, have some sympathetic characters not approve, and the final bit is brilliant I think--love they brought back Enid. (Broderick) Oh and Dixie's Paigeboy haircut is brilliant too... *coff*

And how I miss Kevin Sheffield I hope they post his deprogramming story--which was when I came out to my own mom... Yeah I've spoken to the uploader--she's very nice, 1997 is airing there now.

This is a wonderful moment:

It was a big MESS. But at least he had good ideas, unlike Passanante I think. What's odd, or maybe not so odd, is in that fun A&E Biography episode about the making of AMC (that yes, I bought on DVD from them) they show people plotting the show and Agnes is there talking every point... I wonder if she was actually that involved at the time or if it was for show. Still, again, it was better than the eras immediately before and immediately after.

I find it cute--but I admit I have selective memory when it comes to the Martins When Joe came back for three episodes the other month I literally would tear up seeing him. It helps that Tad's place on the show has been amazingly redeemed for me in the past year--something that from McTavish's last few years to Pratt made me think he was actually a burden on the show. I do give Broderick a lot of credit for that.

I go in and out with ghosts--Agnes has used them since at least Mary Kennicot in 75, and a brief appearance that you can credit as someone remembering I think is touching. When Jean Passanante in her solo era did the tacky ghost Heaven I thought it was kinda fun--though why Heaven looks like an all white garden party on a tiny veranda is beyond me--but then of course she brought Ghost Jesse down to help Tad, and then when she ran away and the show had no HW he saved Tad...

A majority of 96-97 has been posted by the person with Israeli (? I think) subs, I've posted some links in the video thread. But for me AMC was tops for me from 91 when I started watching soaps till actually prob early 98--OLTL had a few periods in there I was more devoted to, and I loved the end of Loving and the last few months of The City, but... I was born in 1980 and reading *that book Jonathan and Sylph mock me for mentioning* I used to try to picture the stories in my mind, until the Anniversary book came.

You're right--I don't think anyone was credited as HW--it seemed like even McT had left a few months before she was officially uncredited--the show just lacked all direction, which at AMC was never true of even her worst stuff (then again it WAS true of her stuff at OLTL...)

In the 4 1980 eps kindly sent to me by a member of here there's one with a lot of Estelle and Benny in the hospital. I am trying to figure out how to convert DVD vob files into uploadable files--pm me with any advice. I posted this not long back in the video folder, but there's a great set of a full week of 1987 eps (Lorraine Broderick was HW), which I've watched twice. A weird mix of stories--Nina searching for Cliff in the jungle to Charlie flirting on the ice, and Nico and Julie on the run, Erica and Travis, Angie and Jesse fighting over an as yet undiagnosed Cindi re AIDS, etc but it's pretty great to watch now. Starts Dec 17 (ends Dec 23) 1987. Here's the first part, links can be found from it: ANd this long scene from the Dec 22 episode in that suite is prob my fave Ruth and Joe moment ever. :cry:

s it stands to be posted again That year was really a mess, even by McTavish standards but... Some great moments.

That was one of the last times they did some great eps like that--and I don't mean the Fusion special episodes... AMC used to be so well known for its great dream scenes

She followed MMT partly cuz I think people thought that it was the worst AMC had ever been (prob rightly, though some of late 90s MMT isn't as bad in hindsight). She was officially back--she got top credit and there was an interview I have *somewhere* in SOD with her talking about being too old to HW a show anymore (her last time as full HW was on Loving in '94 where she similarly came to try to put it in shape, and I loved that year) but wanting to get AMC back to what fans liked. The show *was* very Schizo though, even early on--you had stuff that was clearly Agnes--the Becka/Scott/Greenlee story for better or worse was like a retread of 70s AMC with Greens a "poor little rich girl" take on Erica (the way I like her). you had Marian trying to get Opal to get her into the social scene. The town felt liek a town again with social classes, and of course as much talked about she did obviously pen the Bianca story. But even by the end of that story, near the end of her credits, you had Libidizone which, as much as people say "Agnes couldn't have penned such and such" and she did, I have no doubt was Passanante--and within a month from there I noticed Agnes was out of the credits. Passanante stayed as HW--during what I still think, despite much awfulness after, was the worst era ever and then among firing rumours she left to ATWT and the show had no credited HW for about 3 months till Culliton came on.

That's a joke right? It seems even less Millee's style to do a story like that... I believe she popped up in the credits a few times--wasn't she one of the cowriters when Agnes returned in 99? Or was that Elizabeth Page (along with the dreaded Jean Passanante and soon it was just Jean and Agnes and then all Hell broke lose when it was just Jean...)

I liked it too--and Esther! But I do remember that was when I started reading forums (the old usenet days) and people HATED it. As for Santa Clause--remember this was just after AMC had been suddenly passed, and quickly, by DAYS. I think she was told to do more wacky stories--voodoo/Jamaica too. Of course Lorraine has done some wackiness anyway, but I'm sure there was a bit of a mandate there (and it did give us some fun scenes--it was out of character for the show but as a short, kinda cute Myrtle story for Christmas I can't fault it too harshly.