Everything posted by Tisy-Lish
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BTG: November 2025 Discussion Thread
Has Elon been confirmed to be a crooked cop? I remember it was looking that way a while back. Frankly, I'd prefer Elon not be crooked -- perhaps something was just misunderstood. I like the actor and the character -- plus it would be nice to have an adult working-class man on the show who is not a cheater, crooked, or otherwise a loser. I don't mind if Elon is rough around the edges, but just don't make him a loser, please.
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BTG: November 2025 Discussion Thread
I too enjoy the Have Nots. I just wish there were a few more in that group and that we saw them together more often. How about including June in the group, since she seems to be on stable footing now, and is now probably working-class? Also, they could add an employee of the country-club, and maybe Anita and Vernon's housekeeper. I would much rather see an expanded group of Have Nots instead of an additional wealthy family (as some folks are asking for).
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ALL: Convenient Couples
Pat Randolph and Brian Bancroft on Another World around 1982. Two characters of approximately the same age who had been on AW for years, but always connected to other people. In 1982, it seemed the writers had nothing better to do with either Pat or Brian, so they put them into a short-lived romance. Both were extremely good actors, but even that couldn't make the romance seem organic and real. Needless to say, it didn't work.
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DAYS: November 2025 Discussion Thread
I think his full name is Chadwick. I remember, back when the previous actor was playing him, someone called him Chadwick a couple of times. It may have been Stefano.
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Another World Discussion Thread
Thank you for the information. I did listen to the entire interview with Miss Roux -- way back when it was first released. But I am unable to recall her mentioning Connie Ford, and don't have time nor effort to listen to the entire thing again, just for one small morsel. So again, thanks for responding. I do recall Roux sounded extremely fragile and perhaps a bit wounded in the interview. I almost felt guilty for even listening to it. So perhaps that has some influence on my reluctance to listen to it again. She seemed troubled, to say the least.
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DAYS: November 2025 Discussion Thread
Is the current DiMera mansion the same mansion Stefano moved into around 1983? I remember that house was out near a lake, and not far from Doug Williams' night club. In fact, there was a tunnel connecting Doug's Place to the DiMera mansion. If it supposed to be the same house, I'm fairly sure it is not the same set. But I'm aware sometimes soap opera sets change without any explanation
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Another World Discussion Thread
For those of us who can't listen to an hour and a half interview -- can you tell us what Carol said about Connie Ford? Thank you.
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DAYS: November 2025 Discussion Thread
Well with a 2025 budget, they couldn't keep all those characters on screen for five-days in a row. And actually, I don't believe that was ever possible on soaps -- even in the 1970s. TPTB wisely decided not to celebrate the show's 60th anniversary with one stand-alone episode (Oh jeeze, I hate stand-alone episodes), but to give us an entire week of memories mixed with current plots. So I completely expected various characters would be featured intermittently throughout the week. Was the 60th anniversary week perfect? Absolutely not. But TPTB did their best to honor the history of DOOL, all the way back to day-one. And I think they did a damned good job! If you disagree, It won't rock my boat.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
I remember Penny's comment. My sentiments exactly!!
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
I can't answer this question directly. But there was a line in the early days of Another World in which Alice told someone that Jim and Mary were visiting their friends, the Hughes, in Oakdale. And this would have been while Irna Phillips and Bill Bell were still writing Another World.
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Another World Discussion Thread
If I'm not mistaken, this is the interview in which Miss Roux can be heard whispering, "I need to go to the bathroom." I guess audio editing was not an option in 2005.
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DAYS: November 2025 Discussion Thread
You are absolutely correct. DOOL was extremely compelling when the Horton family was front and center in nearly every episode. Especially when Bill Bell was head-writing, but even after that as well. The Hortons were never a boring middle-class core family. Middle-class, yes, but many members of the Horton clan were flawed in big wonderful ways. And they certainly did cause a lot of trouble for themselves (and one another). By the way -- does anyone know if there is a way for non-subscribers to Peacock to view the past few episodes? Thanks for any advice.
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ALL: General Retro Soap Discussion
The entire story went on for months, and built slowly. It was unsettling at first, then unnerving, and ultimately terrifying. Writer Henry Slesar gave us so many twists and turns, so many surprises, so many heart-stopping moments, no wonder the ratings were so high at the time. I remember watching this storyline on EON. I was around 12 years old, so I remember it fairly well. But does anyone remember if the location scenes were shot on film, or on videotape? I would assume, in 1971-72 it would likely have been shot on film. Soaps did very little location shooting at that time, and when they did it seemed to be always on film. Just curious if EON may have been ahead of the game, and used videotape...
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Edge of Night (EON) (No spoilers please)
Are these scenes on Youtube? Or posted anyplace else. I'd enjoy watching them.
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ALL: General Retro Soap Discussion
Emily Prager was the best adult Laurie Ann in my opinion. She played the young ingenue during the Keith Whitney/Jonah Lockwood plot. I don't think I remember Jeanne Ruskin in the role. But I do remember disliking Linda Cook as Laurie Ann. Cook was a good actor, but miscast as Laurie Ann. Cook just did not have the innocence or the ingenue quality that the role deserved.
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Another World Discussion Thread
Yes, Canary would have worked and should have worked. Better writing and better direction would have helped so much. And, as you suggest -- time. TPTB gave up on him too soon. And having Steve finally choose Rachel over Alice was the nail in the coffin. WTF? But again, WRITING. Not Canary's fault.
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Another World Discussion Thread
Understood. And oh yeah -- So in less than seven years, Steve has gone from being an unidentified amnesiac found in the outback of Australia, to being wealthier than MacKenzie Cory who had generations of New York wealth behind him and his publishing empire. Dear God in Heaven, was anybody supposed to believe that nonsense??
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Another World Discussion Thread
I can't answer your question about why Steve chose to return at that particular point, as it was not explained in any way in the scripts. But it should have been, of course. So great question. Do you think the story would have been better had George Reinholt returned? Well, that would not have changed the lazy writing. But at least Reinholt would have played Steve as he had before -- giving Steve the same personality. So to that degree, I'd say yes -- it would have been better if Reinholt had returned. But the writing was really the problem, and also the directing -- but not the casting. David Canary could certainly have been successful as Steve, but he needed some direction on how to play the essence of Steve -- not to copy George Reinholt, but to have a grasp of Steve's quiet, almost melancholy personality. Steve had never been loud, boisterous, overly positive, with a big smile on his face. But that's how Canary played Steve, and it didn't work. All Canary needed was some direction. And better writing, as I have said.
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Another World Discussion Thread
One of the ironic things about new-Steve not mentioning his family and his working-class roots upon his return is that, in 1975 Steve's helicopter went down in Australia. Around 1979, Willis and Gwen moved to Australia and stayed there permanently. Soon after that, nephew Evan joined them in Australia where Willis and Gwen raised him. Meanwhile, sometime after 1975 Steve was found alive but unidentified (in Australia). He had a short struggle with amnesia, but soon his memory returned. Strangely, Steve stayed in Australia for years, creating a new company -- Black Hawk, which was far larger and more successful than Frame Enterprises in Bay City had ever been. But all this time -- post amnesia, Steve never found out that Willis (his favorite sibling) was also living in Australia?? Apparently multi-millionaire Steve had no interest in checking-in on his siblings (not even secretly)?? Short-story long: In 1982, Steve makes his way back to Bay City without Willis even knowing he's alive, and apparently without Steve even knowing Willis had also been in Australia for years. Lazy writing, absolutely no research, and lost plot opportunities. Worst of all, Paul Rauch had been executive producer through both versions of Steve. Why didn't Rauch speak-up and tell the writers to include some of Steve's real history in the scripts? Did Rauch also have amnesia? And I'm assuming Vicky Wyndham was biting her tongue and rolling her eyes at all this idiocy...
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The Soap Opera Masterpieces You Have Actually Seen
I often marvel that Lemay actually called Marland's writing "dark." Meaning darker than his own writing, I assume. Although I was a huge Lemay fan, I truly can't imagine a soap opera darker than his Another World. However, I've discussed this with other soap fans who agree with Lemay. So I guess it just depends on how one defines dark.
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Another World Discussion Thread
I agree with this. It seemed TPTB just slapped Pat and Brian together because they were approximately the same age and both single. Plus I can't imagine Pat getting involved with a rich New York attorney, and certainly not with a man who had been married to Iris. By New York attorney, I mean he lived in NYC for years before he moved to Bay City. And he was part of the New York jet-setting group that followed Iris and Mac to Bay City. Not a good love match for a Matthews, in my opinion.
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Another World Discussion Thread
When Steve returned in 1982-ish, he barely mentioned his original background at all. And I'm almost sure he did not mention any of his siblings by name. I could be wrong, but I had started watching daily, because Steve and Alice were back. Needless to say, I was quite disappointed -- more disappointed with the writing than the casting.
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Another World Discussion Thread
I believe Steve did build Iris's big house. So they would have interacted during the construction. Robert Delany was the architect. Steve also built the Cory Complex for Mac (again designed by Robert Delany), and Steve did the renovation of the old mansion Mac bought for Rachel, which became the Cory mansion. Carol Lamont did the design work for the renovation, but Carol was an employee of Robert Delany's architecture firm.
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Another World Discussion Thread
In the 1970s, Iris and Steve didn't often cross paths, but they were acquainted and did occasionally have scenes together. Iris tolerated Steve, because he was wealthy and influential in Bay City. But she felt above him in many ways, because of his working-class Oklahoma roots. She felt Steve was "new money," while she and Mac were "old money." Don't forget -- Steve died in 1975, and AW was a 30-minute show until 1974. And on 30-minute soaps, the characters nearly all knew one another, and were never as isolated as some characters became later in the 60-minute soaps, So yes, Iris and Steve were acquainted and did interact. But not often.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
During one of Peter Simon's "breaks" from the show, there were rumors GL was planning to cast Gil Gerard as Ed. I believe this was around 2000, possibly very late-1990s. It was definitely during the time Mary Stuart was playing Meta. And I think the failure of Robert Gentry's return was because (upon returning) he was not on contract, and so he didn't appear often. And of course, no storylines were built around him. Gentry was talented enough to pull it off, but TPTB didn't want to invest in Ed at that time. And perhaps the writers were not interested in writing for Gentry's version of Ed, which was a bit more intense (without being a sourpuss. LOL).