Spoon

Vicki: Clint

Y&R

Kevin: Jana

All soaps: F.  absolute no buzz and all are on life support.  They all need a real adrenaline boost, espescially the sleep y/r.

GL.  For the longest time I shopped Michael and bill but Rylan & Cosgrove changed my mind.  Bill and lizzie had IT and was one of the bright spots during the final years. The last Michelle was so bland, they had a recast liked up right before the cancellation announcement.

Ross and Blake

Rick and Abby

Phillip and Beth

Harley and Gus

Quint and Nola

AW.

Cass and Kathleen

Felicia and Zayne

Jake and Vicky

Marler and Jamie

GH

Robert and Holly

Frisco and Felicia

Anna and Duke

Luke and Laura

Alan and Monica

AW

Rachel -70s

Felicia Gallant-80s

Victoria Love -90s

OLTL

Tina Lord -80s

GL

Nola -early 80s

Beth -mid 80s

Mindy -late 80s

Harley -early 90s

Lucy (like her or not)

Michelle -late 90s

Cassie -early 2000s

Harley (again) -mid 2000s

Lizzy -late 2000s

Another World

Cass Winthrop- 80s

Jake McKinnon -90s

General Hosptal

Luke Spencer- late 70s/early 80s

Frisco Jones- mid 80s

Robert Scorpio- late 80s

ATWT

Craig Montgomery -80s

Holden Snyder -90s

Jack Snyder -2000s

GL

Phillip Spaulding -80s

Roger Thorpe -90s

Danny Santos (personally not a fan) -late 90s-mid 2000s

Jonathan Randall -mid 2000s

Shayne Lewis -2009

GL:

Anastasia Chamberlain

AJ (not "J") Chamberlain

Dorie as support for childhood BFF Dinah

Mike Bauer

Trish Lewis

Rosie Shayne

Ed Bauer

Rita Stapleton

Jason Marler

Kevin Marler

Laine Marler

Vicky Spaulding

Alan-Michael Spaulding

ATWT:

MJ Dixon

Scott Dixon

Christine Hughes (Bob's niece)

Caleb Snyder

Betsy Stewart

Daniel Hughes

GL: Phillip and Harley's son Zack was originally named Alan, after Alan's heartatteache at the time.

GL: Danny Santos was originally referred to as Denny.

GL: Nola and Floyd's daughter Anastasia was originally named Kelly after Kelly Nelson who she tried to pin the parentage on.

GL: Christina "Blake" Thorpe

GL: I remember Michelle was originally named Berta after grandma Bert.

Y&R.  Paul after the Ricky storyline, his last big hurrah.  The Dylan arc was really all about Nikki and Paul was just kinda there.

On 10/21/2022 at 11:00 PM, Liberty City said:

No.

They shouldn't have de-aged Tucker then because it's ridiculous that they're supposed to be the same age.

It's not like she was the only person to play the role.  Plus I doubt she'd want to come back for a long-ish stint between retirement and the state of soap-writing in general.  Let her retire in peace.

15 minutes would be easier for outsiders to digest, get hooked and binge.  15 minutes with the sane budget of a 60 minute show could go farther and hopefully improve production costs.  Full circle because radio soaps were 25 minutes 

16 hours ago, dragonflies said:

I don't think 5 days a week is excessive at all, I think it still works, but IMO a lot of the other soaps could benefit from being a half hour instead of an hour

I think soaps are fine a long as networks are invested, it seems like CBS is with YR/Bold, ABC only if they don't find something to replace GH 

15 minutes ×5 streaming.  Reduce cost and hopefully provide tighter product.

Hot take:  Y&R should really consider recasting Jill.  With Tucker being de-aged a little, Jill should be too since they were supposed to be born on the same day.  Plus, Jess is semi-retired and is not coming back to full-time.

13 hours ago, Franko said:

I'll go a step further: Why is everyone in Haddonfield a raging dick?

Okay, back to our regularly scheduled Guiding Light ...

(Tel-Op Slide with Phillip, Beth and Lujack) "We now join Guiding Light, Already in progress."

I think for both reasons  but a little  more for the actress.  She's been phoning it in for awhile now and also the character herself has grown unlikable as well.  

I just think Tognoni would've hit the ball out of the park as Victoria and was horribly miscast as Phyllis.

1 hour ago, Tonksadora said:

There was a time when NBC was very high on AW & down on DOOL. But, later, NBC actively tried to get rid of and/or to kill AW! P&G had to battle them at some points along the way. I think after they decided they liked DOOL that they made efforts to support them. They started out very high on GEN but they had personnel changes & the new people didn't get what it was even & they canceled it when technically it had had another full year to its contract.

Disclaimer: i was personally fond of Another Wotld throughout the 80s so the following is purely based on the show"s ratings and stagnant viewership.

I think more than anything, NBC has just had bad luck with soaps.  NBC could've easily have replaced in the mid '80s a year or two after Santa  Barbara.  AW was an injured horse in pain that needed put out of its misery.  NBC was number one in prime time and I would argue that they should've tried a flashy new soap at 2.  After all SB was steadily growing during its first few years which was eventually halted by BTS issues.

I think they should've re-worked the failed 1986 prime-time soap pilot Covenant.  Conceived as a blend of Dallas and Dark Shadows by producers of Knots Landing.

How about Eileen Fulton's Lisa tripping over her dead husband in her return to ATWT.

5 hours ago, Liberty City said:

According to Cady McClain herself, she stated: "I have heard a lot of rumors, too, [by the way], but I am sorry to tell you that I have absolutely nothing to tell you! It is lovely to be considered for any part, of course. I know it is odd when actors switch shows, but from my own experience, it can be a good stretch for the actor to play a new part, and ultimately good for the show."

Beth Ehlers even brought up McClain's name with having a talk with Guiding Light producers in terms of a recast for the role.

While she would've rocked the role, I'd prefer her to go back full time to ATWT.

2 hours ago, MichaelGL said:

Would Michael Zaslow's return as Roger Thorpe on GL qualify as amped up?

Absolutely.  I almost mentioned him but I interpretated the question as that  there had to be a recast in-between.  Like Tognoni as Phyllis or any other recast that is replaced by "the real one."

And the queen of amped up returns.. Brenda Dickson as Jill on Y&R.

5 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Days

Alex Kiriakis 

True.  I kinda like Alex but there's so many actors who would've loved a crack at the character.

I would add Y&R's Phillip III.  I think that Thom (?) had the similar limitations that Michael O'Leary has as GL's Rick.

Instances where an actor could be holding back a character's potential.  

GL

Rick Bauer.  There was more potential for the character but he was slways regulated to sidekick or a familiar face.  So many times I think another actor could knock it out of the park.  Examples being the back history with Annie, the marriage to Abby and the heart transplant plot.  As a legacy character of the once core family he should've been way more front burner.

Also Harley.  When Ehlers left they certainly should've recast, SORAS at least one of her sons and appropriately recast Daisy.  Whether you liked Harley or not, she was a big tent pole of the show.  If written out, Harley needed to be gradually phased out and not dismissed with throwaway lines about being in Greece.

Grant Alexander and Peter Simon on GL.  Made you instantly forget the interim actors in the roles of Phillip and Ed.

Does anyone have any thoughts why DOOL and AW expanded but outside of a test episode, the Doctors wasn't?  Was the test episode poorly received?  You would think a solid three-hour/three show block would do better than having a bloated AW.  2:30. then later 2pm was a death blow for AW, as it would linger for twenty more years but never again really be competitive.

On 9/19/2021 at 1:30 AM, will81 said:

From Daytime TV two weeks ending May 13, 1973

1. As The World Turns 10.4 38%

2. Another World 9.9 35%

3. Days Of Our Lives 9.7 35%

4. General Hospital 9.6 34%

5. The Doctors 8.8 34%

6. The Guiding Light 8.5 31%

7. The Edge of Night 8.2 32%

8. Search For Tomorrow 8.1 33%

9. All My Children 7.9 30%

10. One Life to Live 7.5 27%

 

 

From Daytime TV two weeks ending Mar 03, 1974

1. As The World Turns 10.7 30%

2. Days Of Our Lives 10.5 34%

3. The Doctors 10.2 34%

4. General Hospital 10.2 31%

5. Another World 9.6 30%

6. All My Children 9.5 31%

7. One Life To Live 8.9 26%

8. The Guiding Light 8.1 27%

9. Search For Tomorrow 7.6 27%

10. The Edge of Night 7.2 24%

The Top 5 Game Shows

1. Match Game 74 11.1 34%

2. Hollywood Squares 9.8 40%

3. The Newlywed Game 8.9 29%

4. Jackpot 8.7 32%

5. The New Price Is Right 8.7 27%

 

 

From Daytime TV Two weeks ending Apr 28, 1974

1. As The World Turns 9.7 36%

2. Days Of Our Lives 9.3 33%

3. The Guiding Light 8.9 32%

4. The Doctors 8.8 33%

5. Another World 8.7 30%

6. General Hospital 8.6 29%

7. All My Children 8.1 31%

8. One Life To Live 7.9 27%

9. Search For Tomorrow 7.4 31%

10. The Edge of Night 7.1 38%

Top 5 Gameshows

1. Match Game 74 10.1 35%

2. The Price Is Right 8.2 29%

3. Hollywood Squares 7.7 36%

4. Jackpot 7.3 32%

5. Let's Make a Deal 7.0 26%

Best.

ATWT:

Cady McClain, Roseanne

Hunt Block, Craig

Roger Howarth, Paul

DOOL:

Cady McClain, Jennifer Rose

Abigail Klein, Stephanie

GL:

Gina Tognoni, Dinah

Daniel Cosgrove, Bill

Esme Rylan, Lizzy

Jeff Branson, Shayne

OTLT:

Karen Witter, Tina.  Not as good as AE, but close and definitley better than the other Tina recasts.

BB: Brooke, Ridge, Eric. Steffy, hope, Liam and Bill.

On 9/23/2022 at 8:08 PM, bboy875 said:

Didn't Michelle stand trial for murder at one point? I always thought Mike would be there as her lawyer, and a suitable explanation should have been made of Ed not being there because he never would've abandoned his family. Of course tptb didn't care about the Bauers, and because of age discrimination. Josh and Reva were the few over a certain age guaranteed to get stories 

All these years later and it still makes me mad, how they ignored so much of the show's very rich history.