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ALL: Recasts for popular characters that weren't accepted.
And definitely read a lot more Italian than Irish. He was an odd, jarring choice.
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ALL: Recasts for popular characters that weren't accepted.
I don't know that anything could ever top Kathleen Tolan as Mary #3 in that department. OOF. Another Ryan's Hope recast that I think would fit here would be Nancy Barrett as Faith Coleridge #2. Faith was suddenly noticeably older and vaguely Southern(!). She only lasted a little over a month and then Catherine Hicks took over a couple of weeks later. Another one: Marguerite Hickey as Flame Beaufort #2 on Santa Barbara. The recast that comes to my mind most to try to describe how jarring it was was actually on primetime...when Dynasty replaced glamorous Brit Catherine Oxenberg with dowdy American Karen Cellini as Amanda. I thought Roberta Bizeau was one of the definite bright spots of the last couple years of Santa Barbara and to me just seemed to radiate off the screen...and they replaced her with someone who didn't have the acting chops or charisma to be a convincing under-five "May I take your order?" waitress. She was mercifully gone in a couple of weeks.
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ALL: They Almost Became
Given the timing, on Ryan's Hope I imagine she'd have been up for Maggie, Katie, or Pru.
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Santa Barbara Discussion Thread
That was enjoyable! Although it's kind of funny in hindsight that you have these iconic longterm couples of Reva & Josh and Cliff & Nina...and then Gina & Scott are basically blink and you missed them. But I was still glad they were included!
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Ryan's Hope Discussion Thread
One of the things that I found refreshing about Ryan's Hope when I discovered it on SoapNet was that for the most part, Delia was the only female character whose life seemed to revolve around getting and keeping a man, and it was clearly viewed as a character flaw. Because by the 2000s, I feel like fully half the female characters on the soaps at that time were obsessed with trying to snare some vacuous lunkhead. Up that to like 85% of them if we're talking Days Of Our Lives or Passions.
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Santa Barbara Discussion Thread
Yes, a few months before Wanda De Jesus, actually. Shortly after the Dobsons took over again, Rosa just magically reappeared as if she'd just been offscreen in the Capwell kitchen for the past four years. I just started watching this from the beginning again last year and I will agree with past posts that there really does seem to have been a reboot of sorts in January 1985. To me, it seemed like the four performers who really seemed to set the tone for the new wittier, more sophisticated direction were Nicolas Coster, Louise Sorel, Lane Davies and Judith McConnell.
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Ryan's Hope Discussion Thread
I totally agree with this, as most of you seem to. Mary Carney was at least competent and reasonably likable; I just feel like she barely had anything of substance to do before she was abruptly given the hook. And I get the backstory of Kathleen Tolan having done a play with Helen Gallagher, but...at any point did they ever actually READ her before they greenlit her? Because...OOF. First time I saw her on SoapNet was right when this GODAWFUL actress named Charity Rahmer played Belle on Days of Our Lives for all of three weeks before she was mercifully recast; her line readings were straight out of a Charlie Brown special. I remember thinking Kathleen Tolan could have played her mother! In the Frank/Jill/Delia triangle, Delia WAS the one who was cheated on, so I got why she was upset and thought it was perfectly valid in theory at least, but of course it was blown up to Wagnerian proportions including falls involving staircases and tricycles. But with Pat/Faith/Delia I had no sympathy for her...especially because it was mainly with Catherine Hicks's Faith and I really liked her.
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Passions Discussion Thread
I had thought that there was a Tommy Biddles on there, but then I realized I was thinking of Dr. Biddles on Santa Barbara. Never mind! 😃
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Ryan's Hope Discussion Thread
When I watched Ryan's Hope from the beginning for the first time on SoapNet, I really liked Faith Catlin and thought it was refreshing that they had a female character that was more of a nerd. Then I absolutely loved Catherine Hicks's take on the character; I found her really natural and likable. So then to see Faith Catlin again after that when SoapNet started from the beginning again was super jarring.
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Ryan's Hope Discussion Thread
I mean, there's a kernel of truth in that in that Claire did WANT to kill her off when Kate left, but it took 3 recasts for ABC to let her!
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Ryan's Hope Discussion Thread
Ron Hale has passed away. 😥 It looks like it happened in late August but is just being made public now. https://people.com/ron-hale-general-hospital-star-dies-at-78-8722466
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Santa Barbara Discussion Thread
I feel like this was talked about a little bit in one of the earlier episodes, like one that would have been in 1984, but it's not the sort of thing where I can tell which episode specifically from summaries to go back and look. So this is all going from memory, but I want to say that it was mentioned that one of the Capwells, maybe Nathaniel, was the first to settle in Santa Barbara when he moved there from back east. (And then later in 1986 it was established that the Grant/Madeline/Courtney branch of the family lived in Boston.) I'm not sure if it was ever explicitly spelled out for the Lockridges, but the impression I got was that at that time, they were already an established society family there and at that point better off than the Capwells that came there. But I could be wrong!
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Santa Barbara Discussion Thread
He was in college in 1986, at least. They didn't show him in classes that I recall, but there was that storyline about him being on the college radio station KUSB with Jane and Hayley.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
Reminds me of how I've always wondered if no one realized that they had both an Ellen and an Ellie and a Lily and a Lilith on at the same time! (Although granted, the characters in question were nothing alike.)
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Ratings from the 80's
I knew The Smurfs were going to show up eventually. Integral part of my and my friends' Saturday morning cartoon watching in grade school!
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