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Here's the full statement from Twitter's blog https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/suspension.html Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump By Twitter Inc. Friday, 8 January 2021 After close review of recent Tweets from the @realDonaldTrump account and the context around them — specifically how they are being received and interpreted on and off Twitter — we have permanently suspended the account due to the risk of further incitement of violence. In the context of horrific events this week, we made it clear on Wednesday that additional violations of the Twitter Rules would potentially result in this very course of action. Our public interest framework exists to enable the public to hear from elected officials and world leaders directly. It is built on a principle that the people have a right to hold power to account in the open. However, we made it clear going back years that these accounts are not above our rules entirely and cannot use Twitter to incite violence, among other things. We will continue to be transparent around our policies and their enforcement. The below is a comprehensive analysis of our policy enforcement approach in this case. Overview On January 8, 2021, President Donald J. Trump tweeted: “The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!” Shortly thereafter, the President tweeted: “To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th.” Due to the ongoing tensions in the United States, and an uptick in the global conversation in regards to the people who violently stormed the Capitol on January 6, 2021, these two Tweets must be read in the context of broader events in the country and the ways in which the President’s statements can be mobilized by different audiences, including to incite violence, as well as in the context of the pattern of behavior from this account in recent weeks. After assessing the language in these Tweets against our Glorification of Violence policy, we have determined that these Tweets are in violation of the Glorification of Violence Policy and the user @realDonaldTrump should be immediately permanently suspended from the service. Assessment We assessed the two Tweets referenced above under our Glorification of Violence policy, which aims to prevent the glorification of violence that could inspire others to replicate violent acts and determined that they were highly likely to encourage and inspire people to replicate the criminal acts that took place at the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021. This determination is based on a number of factors, including: President Trump’s statement that he will not be attending the Inauguration is being received by a number of his supporters as further confirmation that the election was not legitimate and is seen as him disavowing his previous claim made via two Tweets (1, 2) by his Deputy Chief of Staff, Dan Scavino, that there would be an “orderly transition” on January 20th. The second Tweet may also serve as encouragement to those potentially considering violent acts that the Inauguration would be a “safe” target, as he will not be attending. The use of the words “American Patriots” to describe some of his supporters is also being interpreted as support for those committing violent acts at the US Capitol. The mention of his supporters having a “GIANT VOICE long into the future” and that “They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!” is being interpreted as further indication that President Trump does not plan to facilitate an “orderly transition” and instead that he plans to continue to support, empower, and shield those who believe he won the election. Plans for future armed protests have already begun proliferating on and off-Twitter, including a proposed secondary attack on the US Capitol and state capitol buildings on January 17, 2021. As such, our determination is that the two Tweets above are likely to inspire others to replicate the violent acts that took place on January 6, 2021, and that there are multiple indicators that they are being received and understood as encouragement to do so.- The Politics Thread
@Roman commented "how many times have people in this very forum say that one day someone would get killed because of this creature?" ---- And also hundreds of thousands dead from COVID-19- The Politics Thread
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Sorbo https://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/119782702.html Lawless https://www.thewrap.com/xena-kos-hercules-lucy-lawless-smacks-down-kevin-sorbo-over-antifa-conspiracy-theory/ Xena >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hercules- The Politics Thread
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And, as per my previous post, they did indeed do what Anderson Cooper predicted on this video - they went a fancy hotel.- The Politics Thread
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Nancy is on fire.- The Politics Thread
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Please forgive if this was already posted .. Pence's chief of staff was banned from the whitehouse last night, lost all his security clearance, or passkey didn't work (something along those lines). I'm too tired to look it up again.- The Politics Thread
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Note The headline in the middle of the bottom section of the page: "Pence, McConnell defy president -- after years of subservience"- The Politics Thread
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The House and Senate, having voted in separate rooms about Pennsylvania, then reconvened in joint session and both officially reported that they had "rejected the objection" to Pennsylvania's electoral college votes. Which means Pennsylvania now accepted. The joint House/Senate session then went through the remaining states in alphabetical order. Wisconsin now - objection from Representative, but no Senator objected. Therefore the objection is disregarded, and ... Wisconsin's electoral votes are accepted. AND the final state Wyoming accepted! The are now announcing the final tally of accepted Electoral College votes! Applause! President: Biden 306. Trump 232. Vice-President: Harris 306. Pence 232. Pence who is the presiding officer declares the election final/certified. And now the closing prayer. Pence declares adjournment with a gavel.- The Politics Thread
^ full story: https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2021/01/07/conor-lamb-pa-vote-objection-floor-speech/ ------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------- The House and Senate reconvened in joint session and both officially reported that they had "rejected the objection" to Pennsylvania's electoral college votes. Pennsylvania now accepted. --------------- The joint House/Senate session is now going through the remaining states in alphabetical order.- The Politics Thread
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That's great. The Senate convened. Agreed to suspend the two hours of debate they're allowed to have. And voted. Nay votes mean: opposed the objection. Yea votes mean: agreed with the objection. Therefore the Senate rejects the objection to the Pennsylvania electoral votes. ------------ MEANWHILE, the House is still discussing, each person is giving a speech. They could go on for a while before they vote.- The Politics Thread
The joint meeting of House and Senate go through all the states, to accept the electoral college votes from each state. Each state is considered, one at a time, alphabetically. They had accepted Alabama and Alaska. Then there were objections to Arizona. There were objections from both Representatives and Senators. Therefore, per procedure, the House and Senate split into separate chambers to discuss and vote on Arizona. Then the mob attacked the Capitol Building and they had to stop. A few hours later, both chambers resumed sessions. Both chambers continued separately discussing and voting on Arizona. The Senate finished first, and they voted to NOT accept the objection. The House then finished and voted to NOT accept the objection. Both Senate and House then convened together. Then they went on to the next state alphabetically and counted those votes and voted to certify, one state at a time. The next several states alphabetically were all accepted without objections. When they got to Georgia, Representatives objected. Then it was asked if any Senators objected. The representatives said there had been a Senator ready to object to Georgia, but after the mob attack they no longer had a Senator to willing to object to Georgia. For an objection to be considered, there must be both a Rep and a Senator. Because they didn't have that, so Georgia was accepted They continued with the states alphabetically. No objections to any of the next several states so all were accepted -- until they got to Michigan. The same thing happened with Michigan as with Georgia. (Representatives objected but no Senator objected). So Michigan was accepted. Continuing with states alphabetically. All accepted until they got to Nevada. Same thing happened with Nevada as with Georgia and Michigan. (Representatives objected but no Senator objected). So Nevada was accepted. Continuing with states alphabetically. All accepted until they got to Pennsylvania. There were Representatives and a Senator (Josh Hawley) who objected to Pennsylvania. So now they are doing what they did with Arizona. The House and Senate are going into separate chambers. The House and Senate will work simultaneously and separately. Each chamber will discuss the objection to Pennsylvania's electoral votes. They allow up to two hours for debate, per the constitution. Then each chamber will vote on the objection to Pennsylvania. (We know they don't have enough votes -- but they have to do this now, per procedure.) After both chambers vote on the objection to Pennsylvania, then they all reconvene together (both House and Senate in one room), where they will announce how the House voted on the objection, and how the Senate voted on the objection. (We know obviously that the objection won't win, so Pennsylvania will be accepted.). Then the joint Senate and House session will go on to the next state alphabetically. After Pennsylvania alphabetically, it's not known if there will be objections to any other states. At this point, the only possibility would be Wisconsin.Important Information
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