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  1. Antonio Sabàto Jr. had been tweeting all kinds of madness. Someone had posted a screencap of some of his stuff last week, so I went into his account to look around.

     

    It was chaos and kind of scary from what I saw - just reading back to mid-December. I didn't have the stomach to read back further. There were very frequent tweets insisting that Trump won the election.  He said COVID was just another flu and no big deal.  He said masks were bad. And he said he would *never* get a COVID vaccine and he would never allow his loved ones to get one.  Etc etc etc.

    There was one tweet in which he said in Italian that Fauci is a communist @ss-hole.

    It was really horrible to read - the tone, the images; and I was sorry I checked.
     

    Then on January 4th he tweeted that his father (Antonio Sabàto Sr.) was hospitalized with COVID and needed prayers.

     

    That was startling because it followed after a tweet he had made just hours before about how wearing masks were bad.

     

    I didn't check his account after that but, but I recently read that his father passed away on January 6th.

    Sometime in the last day or two, he deleted his account, because when I checked it yesterday, it came up as saying "this account does not exist".

     

    After it was discussed here on SON upthread, I see now that Sabàto Jr.  reopened his twitter account, with only two tweets. One tweet was a request to follow his "conservative" film company. The other tweet is an image implying that Twitter is communist - indicating that he's upset that Twitter suspended Trump.

     

     

     

    51 minutes ago, dragonflies said:

    So what happened? Its saying Sabato only has 2 followers 😂

     

    I think you must have looked at it right after he reopened his twitter account.  Now he has a lot of followers so there must have been a slight delay in updating the display of his account after he reopened it.

  2. "there is some concern inside the Pence team that there are risks to invoking the 25th or even an impeachment process as Trump could take some sort of rash action putting the nation at risk."

     

    Oh good grief. 
    Pelosi is concerned that if he *stays* in office, he'll commit some rash action!

     

    Pence doesn't care about the country.  He's just trying to figure out how to "look good"  (as if he could) in this situation.

     

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    13 minutes ago, Vee said:

     

     

    Quoting the article in the washingtonpost tweet:
    Jan. 9, 2021 at 7:30 p.m. PST
    Amazon suspended the pro-Trump social network Parler from its web-hosting service this weekend, a move that threatens to darken the site indefinitely after its users glorified the recent riot at the U.S. Capitol.

    The e-commerce and web hosting giant said Parler had violated its terms of service given its inadequate content-moderation practices, adding in a letter that it would implement its punishment just before midnight Pacific time Monday. 

     

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    Why wait all that time? Why not now?

  3. 6 minutes ago, ChitHappens said:

    Once impeachment begins, won't it continue beyond January 20?

    Yes but I gather that they can do it anyhow. Not sure.  I guess if they find him guilty, (even if he's already gone by then),  then they can do the vote to prevent him from ever holding office again.

  4. Impeachment could happen quickly.

    They are talking about dispensing the need for committee work on impeachment. 
    The plan is to just have the House do an up and down yes/no vote to impeach.  
    "Impeach" is like "indict" - to bring formal charges.

     

    Then it's up to the Senate to put him on trial.

     

    The senate won't reconvene until Jan 19th and ...
    There's two things.

    They need 2/3 of the Senators to vote to convict him.
    The Senate needs 50 votes to permanently disqualify Trump from holding "any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States."

     

    Explained much better here:

    https://www.vox.com/22220495/impeachment-trump-2024-election-bar-from-office

  5. 3 hours ago, AlexElizabeth said:

    What a boring Friday episode. I was expecting followup with Rafe showing up at Charlie's door, Ava telling Kayla she has another son, etc. Instead they totally killed the momentum with that story and we got Kristen in prison being jealous over Chloe and this stupid baby snatching story.


    True but this epi was supposed to air Tues Jan 12.  The episodes got pushed earlier by two airdates when the Nov 27 and Jan 1st hockey preemptions didn't happen (Hockey season postponed).

  6. It was well-known that the January 6th insurrection was planned.
     

    Here's an article in the Washingtonian dated January 5th, where they had learned of the plot but the author refers to the plot as merely "MAGA fans’ thought experiments".   The headline of the article mockingly says "MAGA geniuses".  Obviously the author of the article didn't take any of it seriously.

    But the Washingtonian asked the US Capitol Police about it anyways, and the Capitol police declined to comment.

     

    Again let me emphasize this article was dated January 5th, and obviously the Washingtonian had researched it prior to that.

     

    https://www.washingtonian.com/2021/01/05/maga-geniuses-plot-takeover-of-us-capitol/

  7. Here's the full statement from Twitter's blog
    https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/suspension.html

     

    Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

    By Twitter Inc.

    Friday, 8 January 2021

     

    After close review of recent Tweets from the @realDonaldTrump account and the context around them — specifically how they are being received and interpreted on and off Twitter — we have permanently suspended the account due to the risk of further incitement of violence.

     

    In the context of horrific events this week, we made it clear on Wednesday that additional violations of the Twitter Rules would potentially result in this very course of action. Our public interest framework exists to enable the public to hear from elected officials and world leaders directly. It is built on a principle that the people have a right to hold power to account in the open.

     

    However, we made it clear going back years that these accounts are not above our rules entirely and cannot use Twitter to incite violence, among other things. We will continue to be transparent around our policies and their enforcement.

     

    The below is a comprehensive analysis of our policy enforcement approach in this case.

     

    Overview

     

    On January 8, 2021, President Donald J. Trump tweeted:

     

    “The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!”

     

    Shortly thereafter, the President tweeted:

     

    “To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th.”

     

    Due to the ongoing tensions in the United States, and an uptick in the global conversation in regards to the people who violently stormed the Capitol on January 6, 2021, these two Tweets must be read in the context of broader events in the country and the ways in which the President’s statements can be mobilized by different audiences, including to incite violence, as well as in the context of the pattern of behavior from this account in recent weeks. After assessing the language in these Tweets against our Glorification of Violence policy, we have determined that these Tweets are in violation of the Glorification of Violence Policy and the user @realDonaldTrump should be immediately permanently suspended from the service.

     

    Assessment

     

    We assessed the two Tweets referenced above under our Glorification of Violence policy, which aims to prevent the glorification of violence that could inspire others to replicate violent acts and determined that they were highly likely to encourage and inspire people to replicate the criminal acts that took place at the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021.

     

    This determination is based on a number of factors, including:

    • President Trump’s statement that he will not be attending the Inauguration is being received by a number of his supporters as further confirmation that the election was not legitimate and is seen as him disavowing his previous claim made via two Tweets (1, 2) by his Deputy Chief of Staff, Dan Scavino, that there would be an “orderly transition” on January 20th.
       
    • The second Tweet may also serve as encouragement to those potentially considering violent acts that the Inauguration would be a “safe” target, as he will not be attending.
       
    • The use of the words “American Patriots” to describe some of his supporters is also being interpreted as support for those committing violent acts at the US Capitol.
       
    • The mention of his supporters having a “GIANT VOICE long into the future” and that “They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!” is being interpreted as further indication that President Trump does not plan to facilitate an “orderly transition” and instead that he plans to continue to support, empower, and shield those who believe he won the election.
       
    • Plans for future armed protests have already begun proliferating on and off-Twitter, including a proposed secondary attack on the US Capitol and state capitol buildings on January 17, 2021.

    As such, our determination is that the two Tweets above are likely to inspire others to replicate the violent acts that took place on January 6, 2021, and that there are multiple indicators that they are being received and understood as encouragement to do so.

  8. 5 minutes ago, Roman said:

    agreed. screw political outcomes.....this man and his flock got people killed. a police officer was beaten to later die, and a woman was trampled to death. how many times have people in this very forum say that one day someone would get killed because of this creature? and here we are. he must be removed and locked up.

     

    @Roman commented "how many times have people in this very forum say that one day someone would get killed because of this creature?"

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    And also
    hundreds of thousands dead from COVID-19

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