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Great eye. I wasn't following so closely today and completely missed that until I read your comment.

My only issue with yesterday's episode was that it felt like everyone was sitting the whole episode. It is something that I noticed happens quite a bit and I'm not sure if it's a matter of available sets that lend themselves to characters being sat (Orpheys and Uptown) or if having characters sitting facilitates filming. I was randomly watching an episode of Guiding Light from 2004 and Olivia and Bill were talking while doing the elliptical. Two other characters were at a punching bag and then moved while in the same scene. Michelle and Reva were talking at a dinner table and Michelle stood, then Reva moved around. It felt way more dynamic. Yesterday, I felt like a character would walk in and then everyone was sitting. While conversations over coffee work for a 15 or 30 minute soap episode, having an episode of pure exposition where every character is barely moving felt a little visually drab.

Probably in the same set Joey and Vanessa had their getaway and Dani and Andre's hotel room in LA, but I rather they didn't. They can do whatever story they have to without redressing some set to have them stuck there for several scenes. Doubt there is a budget for location shooting so just work with what you have...and honestly even if there was some money for that they seriously need to invest in a few more multipurpose sets because that outdoor café or whatever that is isn't working.

Very sad to hear about Tony Geary's passing. He and Luke are woven into soap opera history - whether you loved or hated them. I know TG had his own feelings about being a soap star, but the truth is that he was caught in a lightning in a bottle moment that drew the attention of millions and essentially a generation. Even if you didn't watch soaps you knew Luke and Laura. He wasn't my favorite character but I could recognize the talent and I enjoyed him on GH. I think the tribute from Genie was beautiful.

I'm still catching up, but watching post-Winterfest and I'm really loving some of the outfits (something I've always said BTG has done well overall), which further confuses me as to what the hell happened with wardrobe for WF and just what the whole point of WF was in general. We had Naomi in her casual, basic sweater she probably got on Amazon meanwhile Eva was dressed as sexy Bride of Frankenstein. I guess WF was there to remind us how charitable the Duprees are, but it didn't drive any story. Bill passing out would have been great at WF, preferably somewhere more private and Hayley freaking out trying to revive him. That aside, Hayley had me cackling! "I'm not a barista." I also feel the chemistry between NuTed and Shanice more than anything we got with Ted and Nicole. I actually wouldn't mind seeing that pairing go further. GV is doing a great job and Nicole and Kial work. Interested to see where writers take this. We honestly need Samantha to go away for Spring Break and come back as at least a 20-something college girly. This teen thing is a stretch for her and I am actually enjoying what they are pushing with the free clinic (as unrealistic as it is) but I feel like it would better if Samantha was older. Keep the actress just make her older. Dani and Kat was really nice to watch. I'm glad she heard Kat out about Eva and didn't push her any further. I thought that was real. Everyone else just seems to want Kat to pretend nothing happened. Tomas has got to be recast. After Kat and Dani's talk, I was thinking about all the story we have had with Kat/Tomas/Eva and how AA is so bad I really can't see past the acting. Tomas actually did have a bond/friendship with Eva first, so of course he would want Kat to stop bashing her, but AA is so bad that these details are lost to me I'm just like boo you suck, Kat leave his ass.

I would agree if we didn't just have a Thanksgiving episode that was drama lite and nothing of consequence happening on this soap for what feels like a long time. November Sweeps was spent talking about Winterfest. There was so much build and weaving of details leading up to this event that it seemed like something would culminate, but in the end, nothing happened. All those cast members together for what? To tell us how amazing this event is and how cool Santa's Workshop and the ice skating rink were that we don't get to see.

Doesn't make sense really to have a bunch of cast together, extra set pieces, and very little of consequence going on. What even was the point?

Just saw your comment after I posted mine. Also wonder if those changes played a role in how WF played out.

I'm still catching up. Last week was hectic for me so I fell behind, but whoever said the wardrobe for Winterfest was all over the place was absolutely right. Everyone at that party was going to a different event. I can't believe that Winterfest is only one episode. It seemed like a lot of buildup for nothing of major consequence to go down. I still need to catch the rest of today's episode but based on the comments on here I am surprised it was cut short. Any possibility that what we got is a modified version of what was originally intended? Maybe with all the changes BTS they didn't want to suddenly ignore the event considering it had been mentioned so much, but at the same time what was planned as a major reveal was scrapped??

She has him dead to rights! Lord I couldn't stand them having Kat and Jacob overusing that phrase when they were on Leslie and Eva for attempting to kill Laura. I'm like whoever is writing this please stop.

Yes, I would have preferred a big family gathering as well considering the Duprees are all about their family and protecting their own. It would have also been a great way to have many characters interact throughout. However, I am sure their were some other constraints in the background that prevented it from playing out this way. I think the whole episode in general felt like old school soap for a holiday.

I agree. While I think BTG has attempted to touch on a few difficult topics albeit in passing, they unfortunately come across as a PSA/ after school special.

Ask someone who is homeless/unhoused if they care which term you use, and the majority would say they don't give two.... they want a safe place to sleep, cook, bathe, etc. Your choice of word isn't going to change their circumstances. The shift in terminology usually comes from media, advocacy groups, and nonprofits trying to push their own agenda or ideas. Not to say that some wouldn't prefer other terms over homeless, but in the grand scheme they want a home, period. Your word means very little. I believe a survery a few years ago asked those who actually were homeless at one point what they preferred and "person experiencing homelessness" ranked highest and "unhoused" was lowest - lower than just "homeless." Don't get me started on unalived.

I assumed everyone knew it was a washer/dryer setup in the closet. We had seen it before early on. If I remember correctly, it also involved a Tide product placement with Derek and Ashley. What was the point of the flashback? It did nothing to drive story nor was it very intriguing. I felt like Dani and Bill could have had the conversation about the events and it would have served the same purpose. I'm all for a flashback, but this was a complete waste financially. They redressed a set and hired actors for that?

I'm going to retract what I said the other day about Monday's episode. I am glad we got a proper Thanksgiving episode and all that talk wasn't just an afterthought. I do agree that I wish the Duprees had a big family gathering for Thanksgiving. They really should have just redressed the side wall of the CC dining room and made it look like the Duprees dining room. They literally could have had a lot of interaction and characters crossing paths at the dinner table and the Dupree living room. For a family that is so big on family, it was surprising that Vernon and Anita were having dinner with Nicole, Naomi, Jacob and Izaiah. Like where is the family? Meanwhile Vernon was doing a whole toast to a crowd of extras - would have pulled a few more heartstrings if the whole Dupree fam was in attendance or as many as possible. I couldn't stop laughing when Andre said his grandma taught him how to load dishes in the washer and then he literally turns around and plops a bowl on top of two pots. Like even most people who don't regularly use a dishwasher would tell you that is very wrong.

Yeah, I'm bored. What was today's episode? It felt pointless. Were they just filling in time? They realized they had two episodes to fill for Thanksgiving week, so decided to have a bunch of characters name drop the holiday. Wonder if we will even see any of these gatherings, such as the Dupree Thanksgiving dinner at CC.

May I ask who you went to see. It wasn't an Articulette Reunion tour by chance?

Yes! I actually started typing something up the other day but ended up not posting. It pretty much said something to the effect of the show feeling like there were a lot of balls in the air, the stories almost felt aimless. I am sure most of these will come to a head soon enough. I also wondered if it had something to do with the changes behind the scenes, but these lulls between major moments truly kill the momentum.

Yesss! I cackled when Dr. Wilkes told Leslie to Google him (check my credentials). What is Elon's issue with Izaiah again? Considering we are supposed to believe that Izaiah was some troubled youth, why wouldn't Elon be gald his son has seemed to mature and has a job at a great school. I get that family wounds and patterns can run deep, and somehow Joey was a paternal figure to Izaiah but Izaiah's troubles seem behind him.

Naomi and Ashley are really the worst. Their friendship keeps making more and more sense. Are they really justifying destroying someone's property? Yes Derek lied about his recovery, but how exactly is he manipulating Ashley - Ashley either wants to be with him or she doesn't. She is a grown ass woman who threw that relationship away the first time for a man she doesn't even know. Meanwhile, she was lying too. AND not Naomi and Ashley pretending like Ashley's continued emotional cheating is somehow less bad.

No, I also thought it was weird that he hired an attorney for such a contract. However, we still don't know his backstory and the woman who was messaging him. I assumed it was in someway tied to that, because as you mentioned who gets an attorney to review a standard job contract.

The timeline is made even more confusing by the fact that I can't wrap my head around the ages of characters like Kat, Eva, Martin, Naomi, Ashley, Andre, Derek, Hayley and Jacob. Like how old are they supposed to be? Naomi, Jacob, Derek, and Ashley give of 30-something Millenial energy, but I think they are supposed to be in their 20s.

Personally, I feel that somewhere along the way they changed the timeline. My assumption was that Hayley and Naomi were college friends, but now it seems like they met much later in life. Also, Ted is a horrible father to his kids with Nicole. That man is never present. He should have talked to Kat about wanting to have Eva call him dad - not looking for her approval but at least giving her the heads up knowing what a sensitive situation this is.

Yes, it didn't feel right. While still plausible, I think it odd that Naomi never mentioned Jacob's brother or as you mentioned saw him at the wedding.

I missed the beginning, but is there a reason why Eva is just popping up at Dani's guesthouse?