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I can respect that, but it is no longer the 60s or 70s. Viewers are more conditioned to watching TV, we know what to expect and can "read the room" more quickly. It is part of the reason that scenes in film and TV have also shortened and well attention span plays a role as well. I feel like pacing is a big issue as was mentioned above and some stories are played out in a way that by the time they peak, I don't care as much or at all anymore.

Just finished Friday's episode and one thing that confuses me about Leslie's shouse remodel is how tacky and garrish it all sounds. This is a gated community we are talking about. Surely there are stricter rules around construction and the appearance of homes. How did she even get any of it approved?

Some thoughts of the past couple episodes. I have to agree with everyone commending Anita's storyline as it's really well done. When I initially read the comments praising the Anita and Bill scene, I was skeptical because I have read praise on here for other things that turned out IMO to be a dud. However, this was not the case. The Anita scenes with Bill/Vernon/Monica/her daughters have all just been wonderful. It is a bit heavy at times and I wish there was something to counter this storyline. I am hoping they add another family. It would balance things out a bit more - especially on an hourlong soap. Jacob really is the dumbest cop. First, he tells Smitty he can call him Jacob instead of Rashad. This man doesn't even want to live at home in fear that he will be followed, but he is okay with dropping the act right where he crosses paths with plasma ring guys? You would think a undercover cop would be smarter than letting his guard down in such a vulnerable spot. Then, in another scene he blurts out or makes reference to being a cop. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Also, couldn't they have chosen another place for Smitty and Jacob to have their lovers quarrel. They're having their spat in the most suspicious of places. They both look ridiculous. I was living for Lynette and Hayley being amused over Randy going to church. Hayley desperately needed a friend and as I've mentioned I do like Lynette. I hope whatever she has cooking doesn't make her irreparable and she can stay on canvas.

Speaking about the onset, will anything come out of this review board at Bill's firm? I assumed this would have been the first sweeps story on BTG and the ball was seriously dropped. It was such a miss when there was no trial putting Bill and his daughter Naomi face to face. I totally get that budget limitations didn't allow for a courtroom set, but to develop this story and end on a whimper with a boring settlement was such a missed opportunity. Especially when there was a lot drama to mine here and they gave us very little of it There was still so much tension between Bill and his daughter's at this point and ideally his stroke should have happened during the trial. It would have been perfect soap. So, no budget - no courtroom. Fine. However, the show introduces us to three diverse women who could have been fierce and fun characters, but they are all gone. There is a review board created as part of the settlement. Bill has Tomas snoop or sit in or maybe be part of said board. I don't remember the exact details. It is brought up in conversation a few times. Yet we never see Tomas doing said snooping or sitting in on these meetings. Was this board stuff supposed to go somewhere, was it dropped, or will it come up later? On the side note, what is going on with this poisoning? Our girl Hayley is poisoning Bill but then she's not. She doesn't want to have a baby with Bill and freaks out and goes to Randy about it. They go to St. Barts for one day and she now wants a baby. At least that's what she tells Bill although a few episodes before she was crying and saying she wasn't ready. Like I need to know what Hayley is thinking. It is obvious she doesn't want Bill's baby but what is her motivation for now telling him yes. Where is she going with all this?

I also have struggled to push through episodes since the new season. I fell behind at one point, not because of disinterest but as episodes piled up I found myself with no desire to really get through or watch more than one to catch up. Eventually, I did and I have enjoyed it for the most part, but lately I will literally stop half way through an episode and come back later to finish it or I will keep checking the time to see how many minutes are left. It can really drag and as you mentioned, it feels like nothing is happening. I also agree with your point of avoiding drama. I have mentioned something similar before. It feels like there is no urgency or stakes. Everything just feels muted and I wondered if they didn't want to play into the melodramatics of soap operas or if the writing is lacking.

I have to third, fourth, fifth or whatever the fact that we have definitely discussed the Hamilton home and there seemed to be a consensus that the tackiness of it all was a juxtaposition of Hayley's taste level to that of the more refined Duprees. It was meant to highlight the fact that Hayley doesn't have the class, sophistication, or refinement of the Duprees. I mean as another poster mentioned, just looking at Hayley's wardrobe says it all. However, y'all can keep squabbling about it if you want, because it is more drama than BTG gives us most days. I agree. It just seemed unnecessary to have Bill and Hayley prance into their home in beach attire as if they would actually fly home in such clothes. You would think they took a trip down the shore and hopped in the car to drive home or something.

The dream sequence was fine. I do agree with @ranger1rg that now that they've pulled that stunt they can't employ it again, at least not successfully for a while. It seemed silly to use that fake out on such low stakes character like Jacob. I do like Jacob, but he can leave the canvas now and I wouldn't think much of it. I'd actually rank Ashley and Derek above him these days. The competing weddings would be a fun idea, but May 2027? Leslie was chaotic, but not in a way that bothered me unlike when she was hounding the Duprees and Dupree adjacents for press details. I do know I'm a bit more tolerant of Leslie than some on here though. Nicole and her lover boys is ok. I have enjoyed it more than I did today.

I did, thanks. I am hoping the Cotillion is the climax of several stories and that is the reason it is going on for as long as it has. However, it has gone a bit quiet aside from Nicole dropping off some shoes at the Martin and Smitty's.

I agree with everyone. We need movement. The show can drag, because we are often subjected to exposition rather than seeing things play out. I really don't know what can be done about sets. I guess 27 is a lot, but the actual BTG world feels very small. Naomi and Eva have been at Orphey's so much lately. I'm also like dang how much Orphey Gene's do these characters eat? We know they're not ordering the salad. Joey's backroom could have been Martin's campaign office. They gave Andre's set to Joey so Vanessa could sex him up for two episodes. Is the cabin where Chelsea was held hostage another set redressed? If not, why isn't that being used? I'm not sure what sets would make this show feel more dynamic, but I think it would help a lot.

I get what you all were saying about the lack of a set for the clinic. Honestly, I think a building front for the clinic for the press conference/grand opening would have sufficed for now and would have elevated the whole thing. Everyone gathered at Uptown was a big oh ok here again. 🙄 Deanna is okay. Neither here nor there with her just yet. I think it is time they repurpose sets. Ashley's character does not need an apartment. Eva can do without as well and should probably move in with mama if Leslie ever gets a set. Caffeine fix needs a makeover. Maybe add a counter with fancy espresso machines and some menu boards. Also make it more cozy. The blood plasma ring story isn't bad, but it is being limited by the lack of sets. Jacob is a bit cringe at times, but otherwise I think it has potential.

When she recently reminded us that she also donated to the country club, I had to wonder how much money has Leslie actually received. Her first check was for 1 million. She would have had to multiple that several times to do half of what she has done. Also, can some of these stories playout without all the stop, drop, pick up, disappear, appear again method. I would like for a story to just play out from beginning to end hitting all the beats on the way.

I actually really like Lynette. I hope we can rein her in a bit after the initial messiness that she is going to cause so that she can stay on the canvas for a while.

I didn't feel like the show established Mona and Randy's friendship to be that strong that Mona would whack him upside the head like that. The religious stuff doesn't bother me, but I hope there is a bigger purpose in mind Hayley and Bill going to St. Barts for a day was ridiculous. We get it! There is no budget, but these stunts actually highlight the lack of a budget. Also, how was Hayley not more upset? She has been whining to Bill about heading out there for months now and as soon as they got there Bill is called back for court. I feel like it was a bit out of character, but then again I got whiplash having Hayley want to have a baby after freaking out to Randy about the same thing a few episodes back.

Ooohhh! Can you elaborate or is it a spoiler? If it is something you posted on here (sorry), I may have missed it as I am a bit behind on BTG right now.

I hold the same sentiment and someone some posts back said the same. I think one of my issues with BTG and I have talked about this before is that a lot of the drama feels muted or inconsequential. I don't know if this is an active choice to separate it from the melodrama that defines soap operas of yore in the hopes of making it more palatable for new viewers or if it is an actual writing issue. I have fallen a bit behind, but I just saw the money Bill gave Hayley for their paper anniversary. I was shocked Hayley was content with such meager gift. Aside from it being tacky, it didn't look like all that much money considering Hayley is a trophy wife and Bill is portrayed as this big shot attorney in the DMV. I will say that last Monday and Tuesdays episodes were actually quite entertaining and well paced for me. The week before that was really dragging for me however. I kept looking at the time to see how many minutes were left.

Leslie also made me laugh in last week's episodes. Her quips, nicknames, and one liners are entertaining. Although, as I mentioned, I seriously haven't had an issue with Leslie's portrayal until this last week. It isn't the extraness that is Leslie that bothers me. As I have known a few Leslies in my life where every word out of their mouth is just doing the most. My issue is that she has become a cartoon character. The same woman who ran someone off the road in attempted murder is now chasing down Duprees in the most clownish way to beg them for details to the press? Even the way she went about it, the recations, all of it felt absurd and unlike a woman who just blew up a man's life for revenge. I get they need to tone Leslie down in order to keep her on canvas, but if this is the way they are achieving it, then I am not feeling it. A while back someone mentioned Leslie going to jail and getting off on a technicality. I feel like that would be a good way to redeem and revitalize Leslie. Maybe going to jail even briefly could be a wake up call. She can see the errors of her ways and come back - not normal, but still that extra Leslie where we can believe she can be ridiculous and not just some loony who is prowling around town with all these people knowing what she has done but equally giving her the time of day.

I noticed that too and I appreciate it.

I think this comment says it all. It felt very uneventful. The whole thing is a bit absurd. I am all for suspending disbelief, but Leslie has no experience in business or the medical field, how is she seemingly setting up this clinic on her own: completing complicated paperwork, hiring, facilitating construction/setting up??? They could have easily said Lesile hired people to take care of it, but instead they make it seem like Leslie and Eva are somehow handling all of this.

This episode was weird for me. I usually don't mind Leslie's antics like some, but today felt so cartoonish. Going from Smitty to Anita and then Dani at her own home to get contacts for a press release. It just played out so ridiculously. While there were a few lines that made me laugh, it was absurd more than anything else. It was nice to see Laura again.

This Leslie clinic stuff really is a stretch. Didn't she need a board of some sort and an actual doctor hence why she approached Ted. Now, she is out here filing what would possibly be very complex paperwork with Eva. Ok, I guess. I also don't think we need another medical setting anyway. It would just compete with the already established hospital. Besides, Derek being an EMT would have integrated him into that world and given him more natural interactions with Ashley, Shanice, etc. I'm assuming that Izaiah is connected to this plasma ring. He just wasn't expecting to run into Jacob. Probably sent someone else later in his place. Kat and Tomas needs to come to an end. It does nothing for Kat's character and well Tomas is really dead weight on this soap.

I hope this cotillion will lead to the climax or culmination of various storylines, and it appears writers are pulling many characters into its orbit. Otherwise, I have to agree that May seems like a long time to continue talking about this. Are college girls really out here using escort services? I mean it makes for drama, but seems unlikely. Would have rather they brought Deanna on and had Diego flirt with her not knowing it was Vanessa's daughter. What was the point of Joey allowing Sledge to run off? Did I miss something? I know he wants to have an upper hand on Bill, but where is he getting by freeing Sledge. Joey and Hayley have found their conscience at the same time?

Happy Anniversary!

Whoops! Not sure how that happened.

I agree. It was fine, but did feel too generic.

Had to laugh when Anita was talking about being proactive and getting checked and the shot then shows Kat nodding along. Like girl stop playing, you know good and well you wanted to live in oblivion when it came to this BRCA gene. Hayley has a conscious about not wanting to send an innocent man away. She says she only goes after fat cats and finance bros, and I could totally get that if it weren't for the fact she is literally trying to kill Bill. One thing to ease your conscious by having a Robin Hood complex, but how do you justify murder? I hope they use the opportunity of Anita revealing her diagnosis as a way to have her play with all kinds of different wigs.