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I'm going to retract what I said the other day about Monday's episode. I am glad we got a proper Thanksgiving episode and all that talk wasn't just an afterthought. I do agree that I wish the Duprees had a big family gathering for Thanksgiving. They really should have just redressed the side wall of the CC dining room and made it look like the Duprees dining room. They literally could have had a lot of interaction and characters crossing paths at the dinner table and the Dupree living room. For a family that is so big on family, it was surprising that Vernon and Anita were having dinner with Nicole, Naomi, Jacob and Izaiah. Like where is the family? Meanwhile Vernon was doing a whole toast to a crowd of extras - would have pulled a few more heartstrings if the whole Dupree fam was in attendance or as many as possible. I couldn't stop laughing when Andre said his grandma taught him how to load dishes in the washer and then he literally turns around and plops a bowl on top of two pots. Like even most people who don't regularly use a dishwasher would tell you that is very wrong.

Yeah, I'm bored. What was today's episode? It felt pointless. Were they just filling in time? They realized they had two episodes to fill for Thanksgiving week, so decided to have a bunch of characters name drop the holiday. Wonder if we will even see any of these gatherings, such as the Dupree Thanksgiving dinner at CC.

May I ask who you went to see. It wasn't an Articulette Reunion tour by chance?

Yes! I actually started typing something up the other day but ended up not posting. It pretty much said something to the effect of the show feeling like there were a lot of balls in the air, the stories almost felt aimless. I am sure most of these will come to a head soon enough. I also wondered if it had something to do with the changes behind the scenes, but these lulls between major moments truly kill the momentum.

Yesss! I cackled when Dr. Wilkes told Leslie to Google him (check my credentials). What is Elon's issue with Izaiah again? Considering we are supposed to believe that Izaiah was some troubled youth, why wouldn't Elon be gald his son has seemed to mature and has a job at a great school. I get that family wounds and patterns can run deep, and somehow Joey was a paternal figure to Izaiah but Izaiah's troubles seem behind him.

Naomi and Ashley are really the worst. Their friendship keeps making more and more sense. Are they really justifying destroying someone's property? Yes Derek lied about his recovery, but how exactly is he manipulating Ashley - Ashley either wants to be with him or she doesn't. She is a grown ass woman who threw that relationship away the first time for a man she doesn't even know. Meanwhile, she was lying too. AND not Naomi and Ashley pretending like Ashley's continued emotional cheating is somehow less bad.

No, I also thought it was weird that he hired an attorney for such a contract. However, we still don't know his backstory and the woman who was messaging him. I assumed it was in someway tied to that, because as you mentioned who gets an attorney to review a standard job contract.

The timeline is made even more confusing by the fact that I can't wrap my head around the ages of characters like Kat, Eva, Martin, Naomi, Ashley, Andre, Derek, Hayley and Jacob. Like how old are they supposed to be? Naomi, Jacob, Derek, and Ashley give of 30-something Millenial energy, but I think they are supposed to be in their 20s.

Personally, I feel that somewhere along the way they changed the timeline. My assumption was that Hayley and Naomi were college friends, but now it seems like they met much later in life. Also, Ted is a horrible father to his kids with Nicole. That man is never present. He should have talked to Kat about wanting to have Eva call him dad - not looking for her approval but at least giving her the heads up knowing what a sensitive situation this is.

Yes, it didn't feel right. While still plausible, I think it odd that Naomi never mentioned Jacob's brother or as you mentioned saw him at the wedding.

I missed the beginning, but is there a reason why Eva is just popping up at Dani's guesthouse?

Amen to this. It is exactly how I felt about it. Ashley was out here acting like Derek was full on walking normally and able to live his life as before, but keeping up the charade in order to keep Ashley. And while sure, Derek did want to keep Ashley from Andre, he still can't actually walk. The man still fell on the floor in his previous attempt. It also just highlights the fact that Ashley just doesn't really want Derek and just felt bad for him. Personally, I feel like they should have waited for the reveal and had Derek actually walking but hiding it from Ashley for a while.

Okay reading this actually sounds so bad. Ouch.

Funny you mentioned that, because I was coming on here to complain about some of the outfits today. I don't watch BB so I can't speak to that, and I think the fashion on BTG has been great overall, but Nicole's jacket was so ill-fitting and the color palette on the jacket, pants, and ridculous choice of undershirt pissed me off. Also, they need to have these pieces tailored or at least make some alterations. I think this may be an issue with some of the pieces they get for DD. She has a big bust and small waist and unfortunately most fitted jackets and blouses don't cater to this build. I assume they are buying a size up, but then trying to fix it as best they can. ---- Martin is ridiculous. Kat had stopped Samantha from going too far before she even heard Kat talk about her sex life. Samantha already had sex or sex as a means to an end on her mind. Her being ill informed about it at her age is the fault of her parents not Kat. Also, what teenager today doesn't hear or see things about sex way more graphic than Kat discussed with Chelsea. What was that look Eva was giving Shanice and Ted? Does she think there was something more to their interaction - is that what was being implied? I didn't feel that at all. I did find it odd that Ted just grabbed Shanice's face like that, but otherwise I thought their interaction was cute. Although for all the hell Ted gave Shanice about getting her Rumble in the Jungle facts wrong, why would he then say he was going to dance like a bee not sting like one. Wasn't Ali's phrase float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. Thought he would have been more apt if Ted said he was planning to dance like a butterfly, but he wouldn't be stinging like a bee. It felt nice not seeing Vanessa and Joey. I really don't know how to feel about either honestly. However, I was excited to see Hayley in the previews - someone I have done a 180 on since the reveal.

Oh no, put me on the not impressed by Freeman's scting list. There were very short glimmers of hope, but making ugly faces does not a good actor make.

Not sure if you are implying Diego is more gorgeous, but I do not find Diego attractive. But Besides Doug, Vanessa's taste in men is questionable. And you are right PS character in Dirty Dancing isn't technically an escort and it has been years since I have watched it, but it is implied or mentioned that some of the women pay him a little extra for sex. Temu Swayze I can't believe I am about to type this, but the characters of Derek and Ashley don't annoy me as much. Their stories can remain more in the periphery, but they are less infuriating. I still think the Derek reveal happened too fast. Ashley is out here acting like Derek was walking around normally and completely faking his recovery or lack thereof. Meanwhile, Derek was just able to stand and Ashley is like I was working so hard to make you comfortable how dare you. Then girl had the audacity to say he isn't the man she dreamed of marrying. Like hold up, you didn't want to marry that man to begin with when you were so quick to drop him when some other dude took your picture.

He's giving Patrick Swayze in Dirty Dancing...entertaining the wives of the wealthy patrons.

The character really has made an unpleasant turn. So much for a mature, put together attorney. She has the emotional intelligence of her bestie Ashley. Their friendship makes so much sense now. Today was another day where the lack of sets was really apparent. Now why would Hayley go meet up with Randy at the casino when she is already concerned about Joey putting two and two together. Similarly, why is Vanessa having breakfast at the country club with Joey so soon after Doug's death. It just makes these women look dumb and they're not. On a separate note, with Leslie parading around the place and Joey having access, this country club is really for everybody at this point. Hayley has conned a few men before and Vanessa does play the "I don't care of people talk" well, but she can't be dumb enough to parade some shady man who she is engaged in illegal dealings around the country club so soon after the death of her husband.

Thanks. I tried restarting, but still nothing. It is usually up by 5pm. I guess I will check back tomorrow.

Anyone having issues with today's episode on Paramount+? It hasn't been uploaded or does not show up for me. It has never happened to me before.

I also didn't mind Smitty's moment of weakness. Like you, I thought it was realistic. Smitty was dealing with complex feelings for his husband and ended up thinking with his member. I can see some trouble coming their way. I don't think it's coincidence that they keep bringing up Joey Armstrong.

I second wishing it took longer for Smitty and Martin to reunite or at least not go from at odds to marriage at the speed of light. I actually enjoyed Ashley on Friday's episode. Her and Naomi's interactions were well done. I'm not getting the intense anger Naomi is feeling towards Jacob. While I understand that she is firm on her stance that she has not and does not want kids, Jacob is human and perhaps the thought of his wife being pregnant and a kid being an actual reality sparked something in him. I also don't feel like Jacob was being pushy at all. He was asking her to really consider it and I respect Naomi for being firm in her belief. However, once Naomi found out she wasn't pregnant, she should have been relieved and talked to Jacob like an adult and said that kids is a non-negotiable for her and if he doesn't feel that way then he needs to make a choice. And the truth is that man wants her and has told her that she is above everything, but she is here acting all ridiculous. I am so frustrated by the situation that I just need Naomi to leave Jacob and get pregnant and have a baby with someone else. And then just say that it wasn't the baby, but the idea of Jacob as a father or something like that. I have known two people IRL who swore off kids as long as I've known them but as soon as they left their partner, they got knocked up and had kids.

I was living for this. It was such a contrast from the other scenes we got with Hayley and Caroline, so it definitely highlighted how she was playing a role. While I personally would have liked if they had hinted at Hayley's deception a little more heavily without still giving it away in the earlier episodes, I do believe this was planned from the beginning. I always thought that Hayley's acting choices felt like she was "acting" if that makes sense. There was always something about the way she behaved around Bill and I always felt that about the actress. Every time she was being cute or sensual with Bill it felt like a wife trying to play her man with sex. At the time, I thought Hayley was codidn't think Hayley was going to turn into some Killer Mistress tho. Yet, now that we had the reveal, her choices make sense.

The kill bill plot has definitely made Hayley more interesting. However, she was playing the long game before and she had the added benefit that Bill knows how to lay the pipe (according to her), so I'm not sure why she's in a rush to end Bill so quickly. It's sloppy and risky and considering her history I would think she would be smarter than this. Second the post on living for Hayley not standing Caroline. It actually came across really funny, because their relationship appeared genuine in the few scenes they had together. Tomas really, really needs to be recast. His line delivery was so dry that it took away from any fun this could have delivered. I thought the June scenes with her kids were actually good.

Me trying to detect the lies, but there are none. The writing has been fine. What makes BTG a standout for me is the casting. We have characters that have been relegated to the background or smaller roles on soaps from the start of the genre and they are finally brought to the forefront. Besides the more offensive (and we all know who they are), there are some quality performers like TMG and AM that bring it alongside the more seasoned actors. The representation of queer characters is also refreshing, but it kind of stops there. None of these stories feel modern. They feel like soap cliches taken and repurposed for the diverse characters of BTG. Now, a good story is a good story and we don't need to reinvent the wheel, but we can blend the tried and true with modern storytelling. The gay couple have been placed in a bubble to represent a very heteronormative expression of gay love, which is fine and nice to see but why add grown kids to such a young couple. These characters could have been open to so much more as young professionals getting their start in DC instead of a boring, married couple. They kinda boring yall, sorry to say. Speaking of grown kids, the character ages are so wild on this show and it isn't helped by casting choices like Samantha and Peaches. And this isn't to rub anyone here the wrong way, I am enjoying BTG but I had way too high expectations for it and it is middling at best. It is fine. It serves a purpose and I watch because there is some enjoyment, but I wouldn't say I have been wow'd or in love with any stories yet. The lack of sets isn't something that can be helped because budgets are tight, but it is also a major sore spot on this show. It also can explain why a lot of action has been talked about instead of actually seen. I am still holding out that Doug isn't dead because we never saw the body and he was somehow in the know of Joey's plot and he is coming back for revenge. Otherwise what a lame way to kill off Doug.