Everything posted by Broderick
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The Young and the Restless: March 2023 Discussion Thread
Seems like the idea was that Tucker had somehow improperly gotten the will altered to ensure Devon inherited the *billions*. But really Colin was playing a trick to get the will switched so Cane would inherit the *billions*. Devon thought Tucker had engaged in some trickery and signed over the *billions*, and then Colin left with the money, laundered it (?) and then redeposited it in Devon's account -- or something like that. It was too stupid for words.
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Y&R: spoiler about absent character
I agree about Jack. They keep him in the heart of the story, but I think his usefulness as a leading man is (long) over. To be honest, all of those old high-priced actors from the 1970s and 1980s (Nikki, Victor, Paul, and Jack) should still be seen sporadically in recurring capacity, while a new generation should've been groomed (years ago) to drive the storylines. It's a case of running on the fumes of past glories, I guess.
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Y&R: spoiler about absent character
Yeah, I doubt there was an malice toward him. He was playing a somewhat peripheral character, and he was a highly-paid veteran from the Big Salary Era. They couldn't keep him on contract; that was obvious. The writing had been on the wall for a while. They didn't KILL HIM OFF the way they did Don Diamont's character. They basically said, "We can't afford you right now, and we don't really *need* you right now. We're going to put you aside. When we have a scene for you, and when we can afford you, we'll give you an episode." That's about the best they could do. He should be out living the good life -- doing other things, such as stage work or nighttime guest work -- and when his schedule allows, and when TPTB can afford him, they'd be more than happy to work him in for a day or two. No reason at all to be bitter or to feel slighted. If the show lasts a few more years, we'll undoubtedly see the same thing happen to other, more ingrained veterans (such as Nikki, Jack, and Victor).
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Y&R: spoiler about absent character
My sentiments exactly. I don't believe anyone in the audience hates Paul or even especially dislikes Paul. Most of us have been his fans at one time or another. A positive attitude on his part -- even if it's fake -- would create more anticipation for his return and more nostalgia for the role he played so well for 40 years.
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Y&R: Old Articles
Oh yes. Kids in my class used to call her "that bitch Lauren". It was practically her proper name. Whenever Traci would appear happy for a day or two, viewers would start saying, "I wonder when That Bitch Lauren is going to slap her back down." Bill Bell realized pretty quickly that she could play vulnerable as well as haughty, so he started mixing it up with her. She'd be utterly hateful one minute, and the next minute she would realize her mother never loved her, she'd cry, she'd yell at whoever was around her, and then she'd run call Traci a fat girl. It was only when Shawn came onto the scene that she became "pitiful" -- but even then, you couldn't help noticing that she "used" Shawn to gain herself publicity and fame. She became a sort of "unintentional victim", and that sort of turned the tide for her in a more positive direction.
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Y&R: spoiler about absent character
Yes, I believe Christian LeBlanc is recurring, although he's still featured in the credits with the contract cast. CLB often has only one appearance per month. But he doesn't seem especially bothered by it. He still participates in show activities, he posts positive things about the show on his social media accounts, and he seems free to do what he likes (such as appearing in the off-Broadway production of "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof". During his diminished airtime, he's remained a team player, and TPTB seem to want to include him. Intentionally or not, Doug went in the opposite direction, retweeting negative things that fans passed along to him, complaining about not being appreciated, sharing tweets that make him appear critical of the show. He also adopted a sense of "finality" -- I guess they don't want me anymore, I guess I'm finished here, I know where I'm not wanted. This probably reinforces SONY's position that he's better off excluded.
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Y&R: Old Articles
Vanessa was more of a plot point than a character. Bell wanted to "redeem" Lorie to a certain extent -- she'd been pretty awful in her earlier years -- and the best thing he could come up with was a Wicked Mother-in-Law who would manipulate Lorie, making Lorie come across a Hapless Victim for a change. I always thought the Vanessa Prentiss role was an utter waste of KT Stevens.
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YR new intro!
I never watched Texas, but EON was ahead of Guiding Light. When EON debuted its "faces" in June of 1980, Guiding Light was still using the "sunshine through the leaves".
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Y&R: Old Articles
On the Wings of Idiots was definitely one of Traci's epics, because that's about the most patronizing title I've ever heard of. We used to laugh about it on the old Mediadomain boards, that Traci was flying high, "on the wings of idiots". About the same time, Francesco Quinn's character was publishing Master of the Dust and The Secret Flower. Nina Webster was working on A Cry in Thin Air. Cole had one too -- Hope in a Bottle (?) They were ALL writing best-sellers for a while there.
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Y&R: Old Articles
My recollection is Naked At Dawn was first, and it was written under the pseudonym "S.M. Brand". It was loosely based on her collegiate experiences in Europe, and it annoyed Stuart Brooks. The next one was In My Sister's Shadow and was a hatchet job on Leslie, which led to more contention between Lorie and Leslie.
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Y&R: spoiler about absent character
He wasn't "fired". He was dropped to recurring status. The show could use him as often (or as rarely) as they wanted to. He created a situation on Twitter which made TPTB less inclined to use him.
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The Young and the Restless: March 2023 Discussion Thread
I'm sure the most difficult part of writing the episodes is the financial part. ("I'd like to use Leanna Love here, but we're already paying Jill and Mamie, so we've only got $13.49 left in the budget!")
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Y&R: spoiler about absent character
So now Paul is retired. I keep waiting for them to say, "Back when Paul was still living ..."
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YR new intro!
The porn theme was fine when it first appeared. But after a few years, when it became evident that it was too expensive to update, it became comical that dead people (Ryan and Malcolm) were still spinning around and greeting us warmly. (Eventually they caught on they could delete a dead character & drop in a living one who'd already been photographed, but for months -- or years -- the dead ones were still spinning around.)
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Y&R: Old Articles
I sure don't pretend to have expert recall, lol. In the first episode, Sally McGuire famously said, "Kind of a drag, isn't it. Being stuck in a place like Genoa City. God, I feel so restless." In the same episode, the truck driver told Brad Eliot, "Genoa City -- nice-sized town, but I prefer St. Paul. That's where the family is." We were given the idea from Day One that Genoa City was a fairly *small* to *mid-sized* Midwestern metropolis, not nearly as big as a Chicago or even a Detroit or Minneapolis. In the early 1990s, Victor Newman advised Hope Wilson that Genoa City was comparable to Wichita, Kansas -- population about 400,000 in 1990, with a metro population of around 500,000. The high-rises that I remember being featured from early on were the Genoa City Hotel and Genoa Towers. There was a restaurant called "The Embers" in one of them (Genoa Towers, I believe). Lorie Brooks moved into a penthouse, circa 1978, which was located at 247 East Chestnut. Lorie's unit was #2500, indicating her apartment was on the 25th floor. Vanessa Prentiss jumped to her death from the balcony in 1981. During Lorie's trial, they gave the address about a zillion times -- "247 East Chestnut #2500". This was an inside joke of Bill Bell's, because his co-writer, Kay Alden, resided in real-life at 247 East Chestnut #2500 in the Streeterville neighborhood of Chicago. From Lorie's balcony, we could see a cluster of several high-rises -- not a Chicago by any stretch of the imagination, but more a Wichita. Jabot's corporate offices were on 4th Street. The "corporate suites" were on the 12th floor, indicating the building was likely 12 stories. Kevin Bancroft, an architect, was hired to design a new high-rise (Newman Towers) in 1981. Much ado was made about Newman Towers being 35 stories, among the tallest in the city. The address given for Newman Towers was 7800 Melrose, another Bill Bell inside joke -- Y&R was recorded at 7800 Beverly Blvd in Los Angeles. Paul moved his office into Newman Towers to "upgrade his image". As someone mentioned, Nikki took an apartment in Newman Towers to "have a place in town to spend the night" when she "didn't feel like driving back to the ranch"; instead, her apartment became a love nest with Jack Abbott. Victor and Diane, during their marriage, lived on the top floor of Newman Towers. The show did a few remotes in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, back in the 1980s and early 1990s. Evidently the production staff felt Pittsburgh mirrored what we were seeing on-screen -- cold and snowy, good-sized Rust Belt metropolis. I believe Pittsburgh's population was around 500,000 at the time, comparable to the "Wichita-sized city" Victor described to Hope. In the early 2000s, there were some "establishing shots" filmed around Charlotte, North Carolina. Not sure why they selected Charlotte over Pittsburgh. Probably figured found a couple of buildings there on which "Newman Towers" and "Jabot Cosmetics" could be airbrushed easily.
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YR new intro!
If they planned to fade from black & white to color, they should've made sure everyone wore vivid colors (like Melody Thomas Scott's red dress). A lot of them are foolishly wearing black or white. Having someone fade from "black & white" to "black & white" is sorta redundant.
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Josh Griffith interview for the 50th.
I want to find something positive in all that pontificating. But I can't.
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Young & Restless- February 2023 Episode Counts
Glad they've finally committed 100% to a youth storyline!!
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Y&R - Returns for 50th Anniversary revealed
It's kind of hard to imagine having any kind of anniversary without Miss Rowell, as Dru was such a vital character throughout a well-remembered decade (the 1990s), and Shimmy's Malcolm made the biggest splash of any newcomer since Lorie and Snapper back in the 1970s.
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Y&R: Old Articles
I'm sure Eileen Davidson wanted something "dramatic". To me, her very best scenes are more of the "everyday variety". For instance, there's one scene where Terry Lester's Jack is giving her a sermon about how worthless Brad Carlton is, and the whole time Jack is talking, she's fanning her face with a manila file folder like she's burning up in frustration. When Jack finally leaves, she exhales so hard her bangs rise up off her forehead, and she takes her thumb & index finger and does the "gun-to-the-head" suicide gesture. There's another scene where Terry Lester's Jack is presenting her with a dossier about Tim Sullivan, and she tosses it into the fire, rolls her eyes, and prances out of the room. Those are the types of scenes where she REALLY excels in my opinion.
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Y&R: Old Articles
She annoyed me from the get-go 😉 Although her presence wasn't "all-consuming" at first, the way she became later, it was the constant barrage of compliments that I found so eye-rolling. No one could ever say, "That little girl gets on my nerves.", or "We've had better models than Cricket." Everyone had to spontaneously compliment her each time they encountered her, and it was just too much at times. Jeanne Cooper said it best. Paraphrasing -- "Her father placed her in an awkward and potentially damaging situation, but she rose to the occasion." I'd agree with that. She steadily became a better actor as the years went by, but there was such an OVERDOSE of her during a certain period of time, and her father wrote her character in such a saccharine and predictable manner. It could've easily backfired even worse than it did. She would've always been fine as a supporting character, but as the central heroine -- nope. Not when she was 18-20 years old. And those scenes where she would offer wise advise to older characters or smile politely while that little pregnant teen Mollie said, "Oh, Cricket, I wish I could be beautiful and popular like you!!" Yuck.
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Y&R: Old Articles
Yeah, Lauralee appeared as an extra a few times in the very late 1970s/very early 1980s, because she wanted to be on Daddy's show. Bill Bell arranged with John Conboy for her to board an airplane, put her little suitcase in the overhead compartment, and take a seat directly behind Kay Chancellor. She was about 10, lol. She was bitten by the acting bug after her few little stints as an extra. She started appearing as Cricket around 1983. Eileen Davidson & Terry Lester had the thankless job of saying, "Wow, Cricket is a WONDERFUL model. She's so beautiful, talented, and incredibly sexy." Michael Damian was assigned the job of walking in and saying, "What a beauty!!"
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I think the reason they're not doing that (the first scenes) is that often the actor's first scene didn't focus on his/her character, but on someone else entirely. If I remember right, Braeden's first scene featured him hovering over Brock Reynolds like a vampire, announcing he wanted Cathy Bruder tried as an adult rather than as a juvenile. Later on, he began having scenes that were more about HIM, but that first one was entirely about Brock. Ditto with Tracey Bregman. Her first scene was a showcase for Traci Abbott, lol. In Lauralee Bell's first scene, she was a nameless little girl who sat behind Kay Chancellor on an airplane.