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Yep, and it was the end of TB's 3-year contract - it was his choice to leave. Agreed that Phillip and Nina's marriage did seem rushed. I guess Bill Bell had a deadline to set all the story pieces in place before TB left.

John Enos (ex-Bobby) is on Days right now as a Vegas Elvis impersonator, lol

No, when Andy came back, he said he was divorced, which was sad... I guess that freed him up to a possible reunion with Susan Walters' Diane... which went nowhere. From reading the earlier '87 synopses, I think the hotel suite is actually Joanna's, and Lauren moved in after splitting with Paul. And of course, Joanna eventually disappears but Lauren stays. Hmmm Lauren's "compliment" seemed pretty back-handed! As soon as she said that, she says she can't imagine why Brad would stay with someone like Traci To give Lauren credit, she does try to help Brad and Traci reunite after he is freed from Lisa's cage.

^ Yes, Conci Nelson is Kay Alden’s daughter… she played Betsy and came back to play Heather Stevens in the 90s. Fine young actress. Thank you LTM1997 and YRfan23! This was a good ep. 1987 was not YR’s best year, IMO, but this December ep was setting up some good ’88 stories. The first scene with Paul, Nathan, and Amy was not good… it seemed like all 3 of them were reading from cue cards. Colleen Casey was a real find. Lovely presence and strong acting. Somehow the story was a dud, and she and Andy had to be written off. Maybe Steven Ford, as much I love him, wasn’t the right pairing for her. Nonetheless, these final scenes were very touching. Doesn’t seem like CC went on to do much more acting – shame. I’ve seen comments on this site about Faren’s “Sweeney Sisters” act – anyone have that link? Leanna as a scheming threat is 100% times more enjoyable than the “comedic” version of 1991. I’m watching April ’91 now and she is insufferable. Terry Lester! Always such a pleasure to see him. He hasn’t started wearing those ugly glasses from his final days. I liked how firm John was with Jack – that’s unusual.

Yes, I follow it obsessively. My only complaint is that it only gets updated once or twice a week.

In the "80s compilation #2 vid that yrfan23 posted in the Lost Era playlist, there is a quick clip at 0:06 of LS' Patty fingering a letter opener, looking murderous... I want to see that entire scene so bad!

Finally watched episode 4. I am entranced by Lilibet Stern’s Patty! Combination of great acting and writing. What a loss her departure was. Her Patty has so many layers. It was fascinating to watch Carl slowly dismantle Patty’s Stepford demeanor, and present some excellent arguments against Patty’s plan. Carl smartly did not criticize Jack, no matter how much he wanted to. He accurately pointed out that it’s not fair to Jack, or anyone, for Patty to get pregnant in this manner. But she is completely lost in her fantasy, and can not process his advice. Is Patty’s mindset within the realm of normal behavior, or is she demonstrating the beginnings of mental illness? She grew up in a stable household with loving parents. Reading the ’81 synopses, it appears that Patty went off the rails when she learned that Paul was not taking responsibility for baby Heather. She couldn’t believe that her big brother, who she admired so much, could act this way, and this threw her belief system awry. Soon after, she snuck out to a country bar and met Jack. I guess she transferred all her hopes and dreams of a stable life, from her own family to Jack. On a superficial note – is that a mullet hairstyle she is rocking? Not the most flattering, nor the dress. But LS’ beauty shines through ☺

^lol, yea, that made no sense

^agreed, I bet BB had the Abbott house set built in spring '82 when he decided to expand the Abbotts past Jack. If Mamie appeared before that, it was probably a one-off.

I've seen some sources listing Marguerite Ray's debut as 1980. But the YR 25th book says 1982. Hmmmm edit: here's MR's bio in her own words, and she says she was YR for 10 years http://oaklandtech.com/staff/centennial/2015/03/11/marguerite-ray-june-48/

Anyone know exactly when Mamie debuted? I have a feeling that for awhile, she was referred to but not seen. I noticed that happen in two of these "lost eps". Same thing in the May '82 ep that used to be on YT, when Patty says Mamie was very welcoming after she moved in. The first synopsis mention I see is after John and Jill's marriage, when Jill and Mamie argue over household finances.

I read this quote too, but it confused me. From '78-'79, Jill tricked Stuart Brooks into marriage by pretending she was pregnant, and tried and failed to get a divorce settlement from him. For the rest of '79, before BD left, she went back to plotting with Derek how to fleece Katherine of her money. So... seems like Jill of the late '70s was already a schemer - not sure why BD was so thrown off when she came back.

Watched episode 3... Esther pop-up! I assume it was Kate Linder... I could only see a body walking by, but no face. We briefly heard the voice but couldn't tell if it was KL. Substitute Carl was hot!

Ah, very interesting! Never considered this motivation but it makes perfect sense. I saw the scenes from '75 or '76 where Phillip (right before he dies) promises Jill he will financially take care of her family, and she looks so relieved.

Looking through the '82 SOD recaps - pretty certain they didn't leave town together. After this March episode just posted, I only see one more mention of Karen in the recaps, when she finally signs Andy's divorce papers. Lucas stays on through summer '82 to help Lorie with her revenge plot against Victor (which she winds up abandoning when JLB quits). The 9/26/82 recap details Lorie leaving town and saying goodbye to Lucas, but I can't find any mention of him after that, so who knows if he got an official farewell scene? The only person left for him to possibly say goodbye to was Leslie. Also can't find any farewell mentions for Chris or Greg.

Patty was still on the show for most of 1984, after she left Jack's orbit. She was brought into the Danny/Traci/Lauren story. Danny gave Patty hope that they could be together, but Danny was in the sham marriage with Traci, because Traci wanted it kept secret that she was pregnant with Professor Tim's baby. I found the SOD recap (dated 12/4/84) covering Patty's departure! "Patty has come to the realization that there is nothing left for her in GC. Danny and Traci appear to be getting closer to each other with each passing day. Besides, Danny blames Patty for Traci's accident. Arriving at the conclusion that her relationship with Danny is over, Patty tells her brother she's leaving town. Paul attempts to talk her out of the decision, but to no avail. Patty has a very touching farewell with her mother. It comes as a complete shock to Mary that her daughter is leaving, but Patty promises to return as soon as she can straighten out her personal life"

Casey wanted him! But she finally bailed when he could not separate himself from Leslie

Just watched episode 2 - I love Deborah Adair's Jill, as evidenced by my avatar! I think she ranks as my favorite Jill of all. Agreed with @DRW50 that DA's Jill scenes with Liz didn't quite nail the mother-daughter dynamic. DA's Jill has a more refined, patrician way of speaking, and Liz is less refined... she'll leave the "g" off of words, like "thinkin" instead of "thinking". Jill was raised in the lower middle-class home by Liz, so this disparity doesn't really add up. But regardless, they're both fantastic. Interesting for Liz to note that Jack is older than Jill - not sure if I ever knew that. Or maybe this fact was "forgotten" once BD took back the role. I do believe that Jill is in love with John Abbott. I also believe she loves his money! How ironic that Jack is so afraid that Jill will take some control of Jabot. She eventually does... but only because of the scandal that ensued after he slept with her, lol! I thought the Claire/janitor scene would end with Robert discovering them... not with Claire choking the janitor!! This fits in with the "gothic" tone that sometimes permeated YR from '79-'81. This is the first time I'm seeing the Carolyn character, and she seems like a snoozefest. Kevin also, while cute, is milquetoast. I think this ep is right when MTS leaves for maternity leave? Maybe this deal she made with God to leave Kevin is why she disappears for a few months.

Yea, Leslie sticks around for another 6 months after Lance. Bill Bell wasn't quite ready to give up on Victoria Mallory! Hmmm I've seen those '84 Brooks scenes but don't recall any mention of Lance being with either Lorie or Leslie.

Agreed... the scenes, while beautifully styled and set-designed, feel so outdated, like from a '60s musical. I found the Brooks child actor to be the most engaging, which is a problem. Dennis Cole is a blank slate... a Ken doll. Victoria Mallory is trying her hardest, but I guess she is just lacking charisma... that "it factor". And it really takes away from these scenes to know that Lance soon leaves town alone, while Leslie starts a short-lived, ill-fated romance with Robert Laurence before also leaving town. I've read all the SOD recaps from that time, and just reading everything about the Stevens family was sooooo boring. I saw the one New Years Eve 1982 ep with Bobbi, aka Barbara (April's twin), and she was not a good actress. I really enjoyed Cynthia Eilbacher, though, when April came back in '93-'94.

Thank you YRfan23 and ltm1997!! I'm microwaving my popcorn now...

^ at the left of the reporter's head at the 1:00 mark? Could that be Derek and Suzanne?

Agreed... odd that the ep started with Nikki/Jack and ended with Victor/Ashley... when the most interesting stuff is happening in Maui!

Here’s a recap of the other episode I watched at Paley – “Danny and Cricket’s Wedding in Maui” from November 1990. I actually found this ep pretty boring, bc I’m not a big Danny/Cricket fan or a Rex/Leanna fan. There wasn’t much content to the wedding scenes… just how happy and lucky D&C are, and D&C reminiscing about their moms, which isn’t too meaningful as we never saw Danny’s mom, and Jessica wasn’t around that long. Also, the Jack/Nikki/Victor/Ashley scenes were just filler, no new developments. The highlight was definitely all the gorgeous Maui scenery! = = = = = Nikki crying, with Jack. She has a big decision to make about her back pain. The medication isn’t helping any more. Dr. Noah told her surgery is the only option. Nikki can’t discount the risks associated with surgery. Jack comforts her. Victor arrives at the door. Rex finds Danny at the Maui seashore. Danny talks about how happy he is. Rex says Danny has a better idea of what love is than Rex does. Danny says Rex should be proud of what he’s made of his life. Rex says his proudest accomplishment is his two children, and that Danny will be a great father. Danny wishes his mom could be at the wedding. Nina and Gina help Cricket get her makeup on. Rex putting his tux on in the hotel room. Leanna upset that she still doesn’t have her luggage. She calls a luggage rep at the airport and is so rude. The rep says they’re still looking for her bag. Two hotel workers bring in a mysterious package that Leanna had requested. Jack lets Victor in, reluctantly, and leaves Victor with Nikki. Victor wants to confirm what the holiday plans are, re: the children. Victor notices that Nikki is upset but she deflects. Says it’s nothing to do with her marriage to Jack. Limo pulls up to beautiful seaside church – Scott opens the door and helps Cricket out. Rex offers to buy Leanna a new dress. She refuses – she doesn’t want to be obligated to Rex. She reluctantly agrees to buy her own dress. Victor proposes that everyone (Victor, Ashley, Jack, Nikki, and the kids) spend time together for the holiday. Nikki says she’ll think about it. Scott and Cricket inside the beautiful church, talking about how happy she is, blah blah. She believes this marriage “is forever”. Scott agrees it will be forever (more like 4 years). Cricket sad her mom won’t be there. Cricket feels her presence. Cricket brought a pic of her. Scott leaves her alone to reflect on her mother. Cricket looks at pic and “talks” to her mother. Nina and Scott come in with the ring. Someone bangs on Leanna’s door. Big intimidating muscly man has her suitcase, which looked similar to his. He yells at her that she took his bag. They switch bags. He doesn’t trust her that she didn’t take his stuff. He finds his wrestling cape and is happy - his cape reads “Jumbo Man”. Danny, Gina and Rex before the ceremony. So happy blah blah. Reverend walks up, and the band members as well. Nina, David and Leanna arrive. Leanna acts dramatic and Danny makes a face. Ashley greets Victor back at the apartment. He fills her in on the conversation with Nikki. Ashley counsels that it’s not Victor’s role anymore to solve Nikki’s problems. Gina sings the wedding processional song (don’t know the song… “Starting here, starting now..”) Ceremony takes place. Nikki tells Jack she doesn’t want Victor to know about her back issues. Everyone arrives at the luau reception. David wishes Cricket and Danny well. They don’t look suspicious or bothered by him. Rex gives a toast. Luau dancers perform. Jack tells Nikki they’ll have a great Christmas. Ashley asks Victor if he’ll spend the whole evening thinking of Nikki? Victor says no and they start making out and head up to take a shower together. END

I totally would...it's for our viewing pleasure, not for profit. But - the Paley staff watch you like a hawk!