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Even her. Get all the money from this little bit of exposure while you can!

Melissa is smart. I dont begrudge ANY of the ladies, even if i dont like them, for milking this for every penny they can. It wont last, so get it while you can ladies!

I dont think melissaa played innocent at all. I so think she held back a lot, and as i stated last week, i think she did so for Joe. Shes trying not to create more issues and tension. She only spoke up when tre went to far and needed to be shut down in her lies. Hopefully next year Joe is DONE with tre (i am awful, whatever) so melissa can go all out on tre. Also, Mel and Caroline were GREAT together on the sofa! LOL.

I just find tre too pathetic to watch at this point. She must have some sort of mental issue, because she seems to actually believe all her crazy ass lies wven when presented with proof. LOVED Melissa in the reunion. She spoke up when needed, stood her ground but didnt go to far.

Brandi, like Melissa on NJ, was brought on to make the other girls more likable and sympathetic. Kyle, like tre, is coming off worse because of it.

First of all, Emily Throne you GET IT GIRL! Daniel Grayson is one fine man and id be all over that ish too babe! Anyways, Lydia was great fun and i am sad to see her go but it really does take the stakes to a whole new level. I wasnt worried Nolan would get killed but would be arrested for Lydias murder. I loved how his webcam thing was traveling all over. He really cares for Emily, in a non creepy way. Charlotte/GG Boy are a bore. I love Tyler. Homie is whack just like Emily is and i hope they have a face off. I am glad that Emily and Daniel believed each other about both their misunderstandings and that Daniel confronted Tyler about it. I cant wait for Tyler to try and sex Daniel up. I love this whole dynamic.

Carolines blog is AMAZING! She takes ownership and responsibility for what she believes she has done wrong and apologizes for it. She tells truths, explains her side, and puts it all out there without the poor me, pity me style that others do. http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/season-3/blogs/caroline-manzo/the-camera-doesnt-lie?page=0,0 This was my favorite- We were introduced to two new Housewives, Melissa and Kathy, along with their husbands and children. These two came onto the scene in what I believe to be one of the most dramatic moments in Housewives history and were instantly labeled as villains by the viewing audience. I'm embarrassed to admit that I was right there with all of you. Who could blame us? Our very first impressions of them were formed as if they were shot out of a cannon filled with jealousy and hate that rained down on all of us. The irony of it all still baffles me.

Yes, it is all saved.

ok, this almost makes me like tre, almost-

I disagree. Those two pushed her to that point. They wanted her to snap, and she did. I also didnt mind at all that she accused Kim of being on meth because she is clearly on something and Kyle is the one who put that out there for the world last year that she is at least an alkie. Her trips to the bathroom, her being frazzeled, her up and down tude, vanishing and reapperaing combined with her being an outright bitch totally is the reason bradi said it. About time someone says it. Its sick how the women just act like shes just being kim.

They need her for next season, but after that i would seriously consider changing it up. then again i cant with nene on ATL anymore for the same reason, same shtick. it gets tired and boring. but ive also seen tre the way a lot see her now since season 1.

Blackout, Femme Fatal, Circus, In The Zone, Britney, Oops, Baby is my list of fave to least fave. Her new video, Criminal, is sexy and good. But i hate the song as a single.

I think mel held back more for her husband than anything.

Caroline has also tweeted and i believe blogged about her random adventures and times with Jamie. She clearly loves Greg, and Albie and Chris are obviously super gay friendly as the whole family seems to be as well. I highly doubt this. Exactly. And i seriously doubt any of them are that good of actors. And if you watch, say the scene with Albie about law school, i think THAT is the true Caroline. I agree with all of this. Tre is a master at manipulation and Dina likes to prove she is her own person. This is a bad combo when it comes to a Caroline vs tre situation. I agree.

YES! This needs a full season. I think as long as it doesnt have a huge drop and can stablize near where it is, they will keep it. Its not like they have many outright hits anyways, I like Nolan too. I just wasnt sure if they established his sexuality or not, because i assume he was straight and just eccentric until someone i saw online post something else.

Wasnt her father accused of having someone tamper with a plane that crashed and killed everyone, or am i crazy? I agree about the psychologist! And i am also happy they are changing to format up, because at this point Emily's actions have created a lot of reactions that can play out and she take more of a back seat and just watch them go at eachother, helping here and there where needed.

I assumed Vicotira needed Amanda out of the picture because Amanda knew and she couldnt let that get out. It would ruin her, it could tip off people to look into the matter closer, etc... So, making her be put away in a mental place discredits her. Victoria was a woman in fear and the only person who could connect her to the guy was Amanda. I think its a TV show and your sense of disbelief needs to be stretched for far more on this show alone to be honest, lol. I think you are both right. I think that Tyler is gay, and in love or was in love with Daniel. I think some drunk college fooling around happened. Daniel was ok with it, but over it and didnt want anything but kept a friendship going and Tyler became obsessed. Now he is driven, obsessed even, with getting revenge on Daniel for using him, hurting him. I also think he had a poor upbringing and is jealous and thats why he is almost out to take Daniels place and push him out (See getting him drunk, blaming it on him, and making Victoria think he himself was innocent, therefor making her grateful). I think he is almost along the lines of Emily is a journey of revenge, and at some point they will have to face off. I agree. Why would Victoria not keep tabs on Amanda? Unless she did, and when she was released there was no trail to track. But it needs to be adressed. I dont think Emily thought much about Charlotte in this situation. It was another way to hurt Victoria with lasting effects. I agree. I wish they had gotten a different looking girl, and revealed emily had slight changes, a nose job, a brow lift, etc just to alter herself enough in case anyone remembered Amanda or had photos of her.

Victoria is a real piece of work. Pretty much making sure Amanda was put in a mental home and not taken care of. She deserves everything that is coming to her. I also think that her daughter will turn out to Amanda/Emily's half sister and this is why Victoria has issues with her daughter. I love that Emily knew the therapists role in what happened to her. She really does make sure everyone she harms deserves it and the casualties are few and far between with minimal damage. Declin needs less screen time. I do love his brother (Nick, Jack?) with Emily and like him in general. Daniel's friend needs to get drunk and sex him up. I really like him as a possible spoiler for Emily in her plans with Daniel. I like that whole set of character with Jack, Daniel, Emily, Daniels friend, and the girl who works for his mother. Their interactions are interesting to me. I loved what Emily did at the fundraiser and how she included herself to throw suspicion off herself and to perhaps make people feel for her. And locking that woman up in the storage thing? BRILLIANT! This is why shes so bad ass to be honest. She is on a journey of revenge and its a justified mission. What this woman did to her as a little girl is horrendous, and the producers keep you rooting for her because she didnt actually hurt the woman, just fucked with her and then led the police to her. And the twist that the storage unti belonged to Graysons? Flaw. Less. Frank is sexy. I am so torn with Emily. While romance is not her goal, i totally ship her with Daniel because they are great. Yet, i also love her with Jack and can see future drama there. Also, is Nolan gay? Are they just not saying or did i miss something? I know they are playing Daniels college friend as a question right now, but was unsure about him because so much goes on per epsisode that sometimes i forget parts. I cant think of the last time i made sure to watch a show twice to be sure i didnt miss anything.

i just love this show more and more every week. I dont even know where to begin. I just watched it. I need time to gather my thoughts because there are so, so many. I will say this, Emily Throne is legit the baddest bitch.

SO MUCH TO SAY! NJ: Tre deserves all the hatred she gets. She has totally, completely brought this on herself. Her comments were not joking, nor funny. She wrote what she wrote to be a bitch, because thats what she does and who she is - or i should say who she portrays herself to be because she is so completely fake at this point i doubt she knows who she really is. She is disgusting. I love Caroline and her family. They are just perfection. I really cant believe Tre would attack her after all caroline has done for her. Carolines only complaint about tre has been how fake s and immature she can be at times, and the end of their frienship came from tre letting that take over instead of working on growing. Melissa really overcame a bad edit and emerged as a grreat, interesting person with such a strong, funny marriage. I love her. Jaqui just needs to take control and kick Ashley the [!@#$%^&*] out. That girl has got to get out and live in the real world. Everyone keeps pushing her to give Ash another chance and i just dont get it. Let her go! I cant wait to see more of this next season and am sad she wont be on the reunion show. Kathy? Im sorry, i forget shes on this show... Bev Hills- This season sucks. Dana is anoying, uninteresting, and trying way to hard. Brandi is likeable, but by somparison only. Kyle is just a bitch now. Kim is to pathetic to watch. Adrianne is a bore. Of course, Lisa is free of flaws.

Emilys bitch factor went from amazing to flawless with what she did with Daniel at that restaurant. I love her. I aspire to be her.

I dont think it was wither, actually. This *seemed* legit. I bet Bravo just offered up an obscene raise and they accepted.

I always felt the Caroline/tre relationship was forced until this season. Jaqui, just like with Danielle, gave her a lot of chances and at some point had to walk away.

what an interesting discussion that seems to never happen. Personally, i mostly agree with whoppi. They want to remove the word from history and act like it didnt happen, it did happen. It has meaning, and power. I dont mind it when it is used as WG said, to report the news. Its a word with such weight and history. I am not going to say SS is wrong for how she feels, she has every right to have her view on it - esp because it is a word that has likely been used against her. Do i think it is racist to say white people cant say it but it is ok when black people do? I honestly dont know.

She has to have some kind of out as she is quitting. i think shes made it clear she will not do season 5.